[DRAFT] Condemn Hobbesistan

[Demongate]

Funk, there is evidence both ways to the case which I honestly don't care enough right now to find.
While it may not be a personal thingamabob, it totally could be, and you certainly sound (and somewhat act) like it is.
Since the evidence for both arguments (it's personal or it isn't personal) is equally compelling to me, I'll just say that since I can't make an honest judgement unless someone says something more compelling.

[Funkadelia]

@ above:

I would also like to clarify I have nothing against Funk personally and I'm usually talking with him daily on IRC - I do not believe there is a grudgematch in play here.

On the topic: I know this is a joke draft but even still: the reasons for the repeal should not be used as reasoning for a condemn. That's a bit silly.

[Demongate]

As I said, don't quote me on what I said.
But still, you act like something is going on. It may not be between you and Hobbes and more of a you vs yourself kind of deal.
Don't quote me on this either.

[Hobbesistan]

As I said, don't quote me on what I said.
But still, you act like something is going on. It may not be between you and Hobbes and more of a you vs yourself kind of deal.
Don't quote me on this either.

*Quotes on this*

[British Grand Pacific]

@ above:

I would also like to clarify I have nothing against Funk personally and I'm usually talking with him daily on IRC - I do not believe there is a grudgematch in play here.

On the topic: I know this is a joke draft but even still: the reasons for the repeal should not be used as reasoning for a condemn. That's a bit silly.

I don't know, that repeal was more damning than most condemnations.

[Ikania]

Funk, there is evidence both ways to the case which I honestly don't care enough right now to find.
While it may not be a personal thingamabob, it totally could be, and you certainly sound (and somewhat act) like it is.
Since the evidence for both arguments (it's personal or it isn't personal) is equally compelling to me, I'll just say that since I can't make an honest judgement unless someone says something more compelling.

There's plenty of evidence to suggest it's personal, at least from my point of view. My IP is banned from the forums, so I don't know what goes on inside. Hell, I didn't even know there was a new Chairman until yesterday.

So let's take a look from my side: A little while after Karpathos files a (frivolous) complaint against Hobbes, the forums shift. No explanation as to why, at least not to me, but one thing sticks out and it's that they left Hobbes, who paid for the thing with his own money, in the dust. Then, much theory, such wow, and people start saying Hobbes was commenting on Imperialism.

With no good reason as to why there was a forum shift from this perfectly good one, what else can I do but suggest that based on your actions Funk, and recent events, you have left Hobbes behind simply because you don't like him?

If it's just because Hobbes wanted to stop spending money on it, that's okay but until that's confirmed then I see no reason for his removal, especially when in your repeal of his commendation you criticize him for not being able to hold an admin position in Lazarus.

[Nalt]

Bach, Todd, Myself, Ram, BGP... Most of these are pretty somber people IMO. Not really annoying.

Do you remember how bubbly you and the rest of UDL were when you started?

I fail to see how Lazarene foreign policy is of concern of TEP, our previous amicable relations had no such bearing on what internal policies we adopted.

Firstly, I was merely stating that most of us (including you) were pretty silly at first.

And I was responding to a comment where you said TEP was becoming not legit and you also said you found it annoying. I don't think I was commenting on Lazarene policy since I was responding to a personal comment you made. Unless you're asserting all of your personal comments are reflections of Lazarene policy for the tenure of your delegacy, in which case:

[Funkadelia]

Ikania, your own admission that you have little to no idea of what's going on in Lazarus due to your ban (one that is justified due to your multiple attempts and conspiracies to coup the region) is proof enough that you don't have any justification to make the statements you are making. If I had a problem with someone's ideology, Feux would not control the root account due to his deep connections with The Pacific, a region who is certainly not close to being a defender region.

[Ikania]

Ikania, your own admission that you have little to no idea of what's going on in Lazarus due to your ban (one that is justified due to your multiple attempts and conspiracies to coup the region) is proof enough that you don't have any justification to make the statements you are making. If I had a problem with someone's ideology, Feux would not control the root account due to his deep connections with The Pacific, a region who is certainly not close to being a defender region.

Alright, well fuck me then. What I'm saying is that how am I supposed to understand what's going on when I can't access anything?
Also:

multiple attempts and conspiracies to coup the region

It was a one time thing that I didn't care about enough to actually do anything. As for Loftegen (you treacherous bastard), I was under orders from the Osiran leadership, and it was by no means one of my 'conspiracies'.

[Ikania]

Porque no te callas?

YAO IS SECRETLY KARPATHOS

[Funkadelia]

Ikania, your own admission that you have little to no idea of what's going on in Lazarus due to your ban (one that is justified due to your multiple attempts and conspiracies to coup the region) is proof enough that you don't have any justification to make the statements you are making. If I had a problem with someone's ideology, Feux would not control the root account due to his deep connections with The Pacific, a region who is certainly not close to being a defender region.

Alright, well fuck me then. What I'm saying is that how am I supposed to understand what's going on when I can't access anything?

Obviously you should have thought of that before your pathetic attempt to coup.

Also:

multiple attempts and conspiracies to coup the region

It was a one time thing that I didn't care about enough to actually do anything. As for Loftegen (you treacherous bastard), I was under orders from the Osiran leadership, and it was by no means one of my 'conspiracies'.

The first time you sought the support of Venico. The second time Cormac has posted about, and said that you were seeking to take action against Lazarus and the Osiran government threw you a bone. You need to stop lying about these sorts of things.

[Pergamon]

This went a bit offtopic. I think we should start to draft a "commend ikania", for obviously entertaining fantasy storytelling.

[Ikania]

Obviously you should have thought of that before your pathetic attempt to coup.

I was banned AFTER the coup thing.

Also:

multiple attempts and conspiracies to coup the region

It was a one time thing that I didn't care about enough to actually do anything. As for Loftegen (you treacherous bastard), I was under orders from the Osiran leadership, and it was by no means one of my 'conspiracies'.

The first time you sought the support of Venico. The second time Cormac has posted about, and said that you were seeking to take action against Lazarus and the Osiran government threw you a bone. You need to stop lying about these sorts of things.[/quote]
Yes, that's about it.

Wait, are you saying they just assisted me in something that I started? No, not even close. I heard Osiris was having a war from a mutual friend of Treize, and so he invited me to help with the 'war effort'. This was not me getting some big plan together, it was them and I was following their orders.

Hey wait, how do you know about Venico? That wasn't even me who asked for his help.

This went a bit offtopic. I think we should start to draft a "commend ikania", for obviously entertaining fantasy storytelling.

I thought we were done with the satirical articles/resolutions.

And hey, if I ever do breach the security of another region, that might make me condemnation worthy. Although if it passes, it'll definitely be eventually repealed.