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[Submitted] Condemn Commonwealth of Free Nations

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Rhina
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Postby Rhina » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:16 pm

As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:19 pm

Rhina wrote:As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.

Truth.

Although banjecting Nama and ejecting me was a rather dickish move.

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Postby Rhina » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:21 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Rhina wrote:As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.

Truth.

Although banjecting Nama and ejecting me was a rather dickish move.

Dickishness, while (er) dickish, is also not worthy of a condemnation. :p
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Postby Namayapata » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:42 pm

Rhina wrote:As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.

I would argue it's not. We must not set this precedent as an international community that people can just override GHRs etc with their own laws. If this condemnation fails, other regions will follow in the footsteps of the CFN.
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Postby Rhina » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:00 pm

Namayapata wrote:
Rhina wrote:As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.

I would argue it's not. We must not set this precedent as an international community that people can just override GHRs etc with their own laws. If this condemnation fails, other regions will follow in the footsteps of the CFN.

People are not tied down to their regions, and if rules are being broken then the moderators are quite capable of stepping in.
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Postby Anhur » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:10 am

Namayapata wrote:
Rhina wrote:As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.

I would argue it's not. We must not set this precedent as an international community that people can just override GHRs etc with their own laws. If this condemnation fails, other regions will follow in the footsteps of the CFN.

You really need to read the rules and the ToS again and the scopes of what a Condemnation does. A condemnation does not automatically override or change regional law, basically what a condemnation is is just a fancy way to say "Congrats you annoyed a large section of the site". And regional law can not "override" a GHR. When it comes down to it the only official rules that have baring on the site are A.) ToS, B.) The rules set forth by the mods and admins and C.) the Laws of the State of Victoria, Australia. "Regional rules" and etc have no baring on GHRs and the like.



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Postby Chester Pearson » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:25 am

And now they have a campaign running for this pile of shit....

Let's all just approve it and push it to vote, so this kid can get the fucking message?
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Postby The Stalker » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:36 am

Other than this resolution being ridiculous and the fact it will never pass, why would you wanna give them a badge if they slighted you? :eyebrow:
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Postby Namayapata » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:39 am

The Stalker wrote:Other than this resolution being ridiculous and the fact it will never pass, why would you wanna give them a badge if they slighted you? :eyebrow:

"to express shock and dismay at a region"
not
"to express how wonderful it is that you did this and we'll give you a badge for it"
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Postby Shadoke » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:44 am

Ah... the plight of Democracy.

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Postby Demongate » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:51 pm

Something tells me the concept of a condemnation needs a rethinking, since the recipients have the same response as they would have if they got commended.
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Postby Nordenwald » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:33 pm

Voted for, will vote against.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:59 pm

Namayapata wrote:
Rhina wrote:As much as I disapprove of what CFN is trying to do, I have to echo other statements made here: this is purely an internal matter, not worthy of a condemnation.

I would argue it's not. We must not set this precedent as an international community that people can just override GHRs etc with their own laws. If this condemnation fails, other regions will follow in the footsteps of the CFN.


An "if this goes on" argument which is completely invalid.
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Postby Rapallo » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:12 pm

And it failed to even reach quorum. Now lets let this issue die as it was proven to be not be one that effects the inter-regional community.

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Postby Nordenwald » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:13 am

Rapallo wrote:And it failed to even reach quorum. Now lets let this issue die as it was proven to be not be one that effects the inter-regional community.


No, they should continue this. It is a great idea.
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Postby Braberbourg » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:33 pm

I stand against this submission, as this is an internal issue in the Commonwealth of Free Nations and does not affect any external power.
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