[Draft] Condemn Osiris

by **Dark Fire** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:22 pm

Noticing that Osiris, a big, important region has declared war on Lazarus, another big, important region

Noting that Osiris declared war on Lazarus because they defended regions from Osiris invasions

Angered by the fact that Osiris participates in region invasions

Enraged that Osiris declared the defending of regions regardless of reason an act of aggression

Stating that a very big region like Osiris with considerable influence should not threaten peace and engage in acts of hostility like that

Wishing to make clear that acting like that is not acceptable

the World Assembly

condemns Osiris.

by **Nordenwald** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:49 pm

I think you should submit it right now. It seems like a very solid draft. /sarcasm

by **PrussianEmpire** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:13 pm

I'd support this.

by **Kalifati Arab shqiptar** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:14 pm

I will support it

by **Sacara** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:15 pm

PrussianEmpire wrote:I'd support this.

Not many else.

by **Rifty** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:15 pm

Would oppose this - And happily fund the counter campaign/s.

Osiris has AoI's and My own support.

by **the Imperial Crown** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:18 pm

What have I just read?

by **Valrifell** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:21 pm

I don't think you have a particularly good understanding of the sitiation.

by **Tano** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:24 pm

the Imperial Crown wrote:What have I just read?

Magic.

by **Applebania** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:46 pm

the Imperial Crown wrote:What have I just read?

Sheer poetry.

by **Cormac A Stark** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:36 pm

lol k.

Dark Fire wrote:Noticing that Osiris, a big, important region has declared war on Lazarus, another big, important region

Your first problem is that Lazarus isn't an important region.

Dark Fire wrote:Noting that Osiris declared war on Lazarus because they defended regions from Osiris invasions

Yes, that's definitely why. That's why we have also declared war against the Founderless Regions Alliance, the United Defenders League, the 10000 Islands Treaty Organization, Spiritus, Wintermootopia, etc., etc.

Oh wait, we haven't done that.

Dark Fire wrote:Angered by the fact that Osiris partipiciates in region invasions

Good. Use your aggressive feelings. Let the hate flow through you.

Also, participates*.

Dark Fire wrote:Enraged that Osiris declared the defending of regions regardless of reason an act of agression

We did? Citation, please. In fact, cite one reference to Lazarus defending against us at all, anywhere in our war declaration or any subsequent commentary.

Also, since we definitely did say this, someone should correct our spelling. It's "aggression."

Dark Fire wrote:Stating that a very big region like Osiris with considerable influence should not threaten peace and engage in acts of hostility like that

We aren't threatening peace. The People's Republic of Lazarus is a threat to interregional peace and goodwill; it has disrupted the usual positive relations between Feeder and Sinker regions, provoking a war between two GCRs for the first time in a very long time, all because they can't peacefully coexist with regions that differ from their extreme ideology.

Dark Fire wrote:Wishing to make clear that acting like that is not acceptable

the World Assembly

condemns Osiris.

Good luck with that.

by **Chester Pearson** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:09 pm

Cormac A Stark wrote:
Dark Fire wrote:Noticing that Osiris, a big, important region has declared war on Lazarus, another big, important region

Your first problem is that Lazarus isn't an important region.

Neither is Osiris, but no one is pointing that out....

by **Cormac A Stark** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:15 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:Neither is Osiris, but no one is pointing that out....

Osiris was ranked third in the recent influential regions survey, behind The North Pacific and The Rejected Realms.

Which means absolutely nothing except that we have high name recognition at the moment, but I'm still going to shamelessly reference it.

by **Toronina** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:17 pm

Cormac A Stark wrote:lol k.

Dark Fire wrote:Noticing that Osiris, a big, important region has declared war on Lazarus, another big, important region

Your first problem is that Lazarus isn't an important region.

Dark Fire wrote:Noting that Osiris declared war on Lazarus because they defended regions from Osiris invasions

Yes, that's definitely why. That's why we have also declared war against the Founderless Regions Alliance, the United Defenders League, the 10000 Islands Treaty Organization, Spiritus, Wintermootopia, etc., etc.

Oh wait, we haven't done that.

Dark Fire wrote:Angered by the fact that Osiris partipiciates in region invasions

Good. Use your aggressive feelings. Let the hate flow through you.

Also, participates*.

Dark Fire wrote:Enraged that Osiris declared the defending of regions regardless of reason an act of agression

We did? Citation, please. In fact, cite one reference to Lazarus defending against us at all, anywhere in our war declaration or any subsequent commentary.

Also, since we definitely did say this, someone should correct our spelling. It's "aggression."

Dark Fire wrote:Stating that a very big region like Osiris with considerable influence should not threaten peace and engage in acts of hostility like that

We aren't threatening peace. The People's Republic of Lazarus is a threat to interregional peace and goodwill; it has disrupted the usual positive relations between Feeder and Sinker regions, provoking a war between two GCRs for the first time in a very long time, all because they can't peacefully coexist with regions that differ from their extreme ideology.

Dark Fire wrote:Wishing to make clear that acting like that is not acceptable

the World Assembly

condemns Osiris.

Good luck with that.

Damit, now Osiris is using our lines

by **Dark Fire** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:30 pm

Could I submit this in the current state or would there be some problems?

by **District XIV** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:32 pm

Dark Fire wrote:Could I submit this in the current state or would there be some problems?

Wait much longer than 24 hours to submit; this isn't urgent.

by **Dark Fire** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:39 pm

District XIV wrote:
Dark Fire wrote:Could I submit this in the current state or would there be some problems?

Wait much longer than 24 hours to submit; this isn't urgent.

Well, I don't want to wait long, because this should- in my opinion- pass soon, but I don't want to submit a flawed proposal.
So yes, I will wait a bit. I just asked because the only problems I have been told are spelling problems, and then there is the not exactly helpful second post here.

by **Chester Pearson** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:43 pm

Dark Fire wrote:
District XIV wrote:Wait much longer than 24 hours to submit; this isn't urgent.

Well, I don't want to wait long, because this should- in my opinion- pass soon,

Pass soon? This will never pass as written....

by **Cormac A Stark** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:51 pm

This will never pass, period. You're trying to condemn a Sinker. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but no offense, you're not going to be the person to do it.

by **The Stalker** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:16 pm

Yea I don't think you really can condemn / commend a sinker / feeder.

by **District XIV** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:16 pm

The Stalker wrote:Yea I don't think you really can condemn / commend a sinker / feeder.

You can, but it's not really all that... (can't think of a proper word).

by **Black Mekhet** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:21 pm

This is awesome, totally support!

by **Dark Fire** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:05 am

There are some who don't like this, and there are some who do. It would be nice, however, if you could tell me what I need to change (if I do). I noticed the improve it by scrapping it posts.

by **Toronina** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:07 am

Dark Fire wrote:There are some who don't like this, and there are some who do. It would be nice, however, if you could tell me what I need to change (if I do). I noticed the improve it by scrapping it posts.

Scarp it mate, it's not much of a war, Osiris is just sitting down, doing nothing against Lazarus

by **Rifty** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:21 am

Dark Fire wrote:There are some who don't like this, and there are some who do. It would be nice, however, if you could tell me what I need to change (if I do). I noticed the improve it by scrapping it posts.

The best way for this to work is to understand the point of a condemnation - "to express shock and dismay."

How well informed on the Osiris/Lazarus conflict are you? Now i am sure that there are parts that i will have that are wrong and parts that are forgotten. My knowledge on the matter is the conflict came about by comments from a member of Lazarus, Lazarus's government system and than some issues with the NatSov Conference. This is in no way that a declaration of war was required - but that having a condemnation is rather pointless as it is directed at one of two evils. An imperialist GCR with a fairly democratic system of having a new leader versus A defender oriented region with some weird form of dictatorship.

The only thing you could possibly condemn Osiris for is being an Imperialist; however I and i'm sure no one else can see this occurring.They are a rather influential region, One thing is not enough to condemn and it could easily be struck down with a campaign. If you are on a mission to condemn GCRs...i'm sure you can find a reason for all of them.

Just being honest - I'd quit while i was ahead if i was you; putting time and effort into a condemnation that i would happily bet on never passing - I would expect it to reach quorum however.

Just going to put it our there; I am NOT a WA Author.