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[Draft] Liberate Ixnay

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[Draft] Liberate Ixnay

Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:01 pm

The Security Council,

Noting the stated intent of a Liberation, namely: “a resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region”,

Recognizing that Ixnay was a region dedicated to nation-building, one that has been in existence since 2003, and who, at its height, had a population of over 40 nations,

Observing that Ixnay was attacked by a sleeper agent of The Black Riders, who had assistance from a combined force of The United Imperial Armed Forces, Lone Wolves United, and Sicarius,

Further Noting that the occupiers have begun banning and ejecting nations, dismantling embassies, and disrupting communications, thereby taking all forms of identity from Ixnay,

Further Observing that the occupiers have stated that they will attempt to refound Ixnay, making the region into a perverse “trophy” for the glorification of their “conquest”,

Disturbed by the publicly stated motivations for the acceleration of this attack: that the natives of Ixnay had been in the process of refounding their region in order to better secure themselves from attack,

Acknowledging that natives of Ixnay have publicly stated their desire for a Liberation from the Security Council, these natives include, but are not limited to: Urcea, Kistan, and Constantinalia,

Believing that swift action is needed on the part of the Security Council in order to prevent Ixnay from turning into a perverse “trophy”,

Hereby Liberates Ixnay.

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The Security Council,

Noting that Ixnay, a region that has been in existence since 2003, was a peaceful one dedicated to nation-building,

Disappointed that Ixnay was recently invaded by a combined force of The Black Riders, Sicarius, Lone Wolves United, and The United Imperial Armed Forces,

Horrified that Kikpar, the usurper, betrayed the trust of Ixnay by acting the part of a sleeper nation in the region it pretended to call home,

Distraught that Ixnay's identity was stripped from it as a result of the invasion, and that the natives of Ixnay have had their nations as well as their region invaded,

Disturbed by the implications that this attack was spurred on by the native's desire to refound Ixnay and better secure themselves from attack,

Wishing to prevent the peaceful natives of Ixnay from having to languish under an oppressive occupation,

Hereby Liberates Ixnay.

Co-authored by The Fourth Imperium.

The Security Council,

Noting that Ixnay, a region that has been in existence since 2003, was a peaceful one dedicated to nation-building,

Disappointed that Ixnay was recently invaded by a combined force of The Black Riders, Sicarius, and The United Imperial Armed Forces,

Horrified that Kikpar, the usurper, betrayed the trust of Ixnay by acting the part of a sleeper nation in the region it pretended to call home,

Distraught that Ixnay's identity was stripped from it as a result of the invasion, and that the natives of Ixnay have had their nations as well as their region invaded,

Disturbed by the potential implications that the invasion and occupation of Ixnay are a direct result of the unfortunate and maligned first incarnation of the proposal “Liberate Haven”--a proposal whose purpose was to open a region to invasion of similar character to Ixnay,

Wishing to prevent the peaceful natives of Ixnay from having to languish under an oppressive occupation,

Hereby Liberates Ixnay.

Co-authored by The Fourth Imperium.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:06 pm

Ramaeus wrote:This will be submitted rather quickly.
The Security Council,

Noting that Ixnay, a region that has been in existence since 2003, was a peaceful one dedicated to nation-building,

Disappointed that Ixnay was recently invaded by a combined force of The Black Riders, Sicarius, and The United Imperial Armed Forces,

Horrified that Kikpar, the usurper, betrayed the trust of Ixnay by acting the part of a sleeper nation in the region it pretended to call home,

Distraught that Ixnay's identity was stripped from it as a result of the invasion, and that the natives of Ixnay have had their nations as well as their region invaded,

Disturbed by the potential implications that the invasion and occupation of Ixnay are a direct result of the unfortunate and maligned first incarnation of the proposal “Liberate Haven”--a proposal whose purpose was to open a region to invasion of similar character to Ixnay,

Wishing to prevent the peaceful natives of Ixnay from having to languish under an oppressive occupation,

Hereby Liberates Ixnay.

Co-authored by The Fourth Imperium.

Just so that this is clear: you're claming that this invasion is the direct result of something that happened months after the sleeper nation was planted in the region?
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:14 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:Just so that this is clear: you're claming that this invasion is the direct result of something that happened months after the sleeper nation was planted in the region?

I'm saying that it's a possible motivation. They may very well have been motivated to accelerate their attack as a result of Liberate Haven.

I'm well aware that what I state is nothing but an assertion, but that's why I'm using mildly ambiguous language.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:15 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Just so that this is clear: you're claming that this invasion is the direct result of something that happened months after the sleeper nation was planted in the region?

I'm saying that it's a possible motivation. They may very well have been motivated to accelerate their attack as a result of Liberate Haven.

I'm well aware that what I state is nothing but an assertion, but that's why I'm using mildly ambiguous language.

The attack occurred when it did because the natives were preparing a refound which forced TBR's hand.
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:17 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:The attack occurred when it did because the natives were preparing a refound which forced TBR's hand.

Alright then. I'll change that clause shortly.
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Postby Nierr » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:17 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Ramaeus wrote:I'm saying that it's a possible motivation. They may very well have been motivated to accelerate their attack as a result of Liberate Haven.

I'm well aware that what I state is nothing but an assertion, but that's why I'm using mildly ambiguous language.

The attack occurred when it did because the natives were preparing a refound which forced TBR's hand.

Are you really going to claim it's just coincidence? Really?

C'mon, Mall. It's about as coincidental as Afforess just suddenly having a burning urge to draft and post a Liberate Haven proposal.

As it is, this proposal is unneeded and I am against.

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:20 pm

Nierr wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:The attack occurred when it did because the natives were preparing a refound which forced TBR's hand.

Are you really going to claim it's just coincidence? Really?

C'mon, Mall. It's about as coincidental as Afforess just suddenly having a burning urge to draft and post a Liberate Haven proposal.

As it is, this proposal is unneeded and I am against.

My understanding of the situation is that the natives responded to the Liberate Haven proposal by going for a refound, they had a poll running and had distributed a telegram instructing nations to leave. The potential for a change in the password or having the point removed necessitated immediate action. The timing then is not coincidental, but the causality is not what is claimed in the proposal.
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Postby Kikpar » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:27 pm

Mall is absolutely correct, it is a complete coincidence, forced by the natives plans to refound.

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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:28 pm

It's been updated.
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Postby Frattastan II » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:31 pm

Have the natives asked this resolution?
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:34 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Have the natives asked this resolution?

I do have native approval for this, if that's what you're asking.
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Postby The Lanthanides » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:36 pm

AGAINST, since you banjected me from TEP.
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The Lanthanides wrote:AGAINST, since you banjected me from TEP.

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I never banned you from TEP. My predecessor did.
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Postby Urcea » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:56 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
Frattastan II wrote:Have the natives asked this resolution?

I do have native approval for this, if that's what you're asking.


I can confirm this.
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Postby Lemmrod » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:08 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Have the natives asked this resolution?


A native has attempted to draft a resolution, but failed due to technical issues.

I wholly support this draft.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:13 pm

Urcea wrote:
Ramaeus wrote:I do have native approval for this, if that's what you're asking.


I can confirm this.


Why the Liberation? There is no password currently to remove. Do you suspect your occupiers of imposing one on the near future to aid their refound efforts?
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Postby The Sapientia » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:19 pm

You're jumping the gun a slight bit here with the Liberation Proposal. The first thing Kipkar did is REMOVE the password.
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Postby Kistan » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:21 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Urcea wrote:
I can confirm this.


Why the Liberation? There is no password currently to remove. Do you suspect your occupiers of imposing one on the near future to aid their refound efforts?

Oh, hi. It's you, G.

Well, they made it clear individually, in several cases, that they are going to stay in Ixnay. Their reasoning came in the form of both anarchist and dictatorial superiority speeches, and repeatedly mentioned attacking us for being 'WA supporters', in their opinion.
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:23 pm

The Sapientia wrote:You're jumping the gun a slight bit here with the Liberation Proposal. The first thing Kipkar did is REMOVE the password.

If I submitted this, then yes, your complaint would be valid. But I haven't.
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Postby Kistan » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:24 pm

The Sapientia wrote:You're jumping the gun a slight bit here with the Liberation Proposal. The first thing Kipkar did is REMOVE the password.

Well, yeah.

Then the second half of the invasion flooded in and endorsed him. It's not like it was a helpful or beneficial act.
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Postby Elke and Elba » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:18 pm

*rolls eyes*

So much for "we won't attack you if you refound..."
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Postby Constantinalia » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:53 am

Hello! Ixnayan native here, currently stuck in The Rejected Realms, I support this draft. The Raiders have no password as of current so they can move their WA nations in, but they're most likely going to lock it as soon as they have enough influence to keep the natives weak.

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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:13 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:My understanding of the situation is that the natives responded to the Liberate Haven proposal by going for a refound, they had a poll running and had distributed a telegram instructing nations to leave. The potential for a change in the password or having the point removed necessitated immediate action.

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Oh, really?!? Did their refounding threaten your lives, or to enslave you, or something else at that level?!? No? Thought not. There's nothing "necessary" at all about raiding...
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:17 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:My understanding of the situation is that the natives responded to the Liberate Haven proposal by going for a refound, they had a poll running and had distributed a telegram instructing nations to leave. The potential for a change in the password or having the point removed necessitated immediate action.

:eyebrow:
Oh, really?!? Did their refounding threaten your lives, or to enslave you, or something else at that level?!? No? Thought not. There's nothing "necessary" at all about raiding...

It threatened the operation, so from a raider perspective it threatened months of work and planning. So yes, from our raiding perspective it was indeed necessary. Will this be held in reserve in order to be deployed once a password is put up or is it the intention of the author to submit the moment a suitable draft is created?
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:20 am

I would definitely back this resolution.

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