[Draft] Commend Christian Democrats

[Eist]

You must forgive us; we vastly overestimated the ability of this body to tolerate differing points of view. Apparently the SC is no better than the GA in that regard. We will not be making the same mistake again, we assure you.

Thanks Kenny. If I understand your thinking correctly, we should be supporting commendations for players like CD not because they are actually commendable, but because we do not agree with their extreme, arguably disgusting, and very vocal personal views and actions. Furthermore, if we don't subscribe to your idea here then apparently we are everything that is wrong with the SC so much so that it's basically the same as the GA, which you seem to see in a very negative light. Got it?

[PrussianEmpire]

AWARE of 'Right to Life', a region created and maintained by Christian Democrats in an effort to tendentiously promote the Pro-Life side of the extremely controversial topic of abortion,

Founding a region to promote a hateful ideology isn't something commendable. Unless you're going to be commending LCG next?

Just going to throw this in here. Just because some one wants to prevent the murder of a human does not mean they hate women, it just means they wish to keep a human alive. Obviously there will be times when an abortion is acceptable (rape, major birth defects, threat to women's life, etc.) but I do not see how it is comparable to Nazi ideology. Do you mind explaining how they are?

[Mundiferrum]

You must forgive us; we vastly overestimated the ability of this body to tolerate differing points of view. Apparently the SC is no better than the GA in that regard. We will not be making the same mistake again, we assure you.

Thanks Kenny. If I understand your thinking correctly, we should be supporting commendations for players like CD not because they are actually commendable, but because we do not agree with their extreme, arguably disgusting, and very vocal personal views and actions. Furthermore, if we don't subscribe to your idea here then apparently we are everything that is wrong with the SC so much so that it's basically the same as the GA, which you seem to see in a very negative light. Got it?

The definition of "Extreme" being terribly subjective. Just coz' he's anti-(some cases of)abortion, a point which often divides this assembly into clean halves (ie, a point not considered bad across the majority of the board), does not mean he's believing in something even arguably 'disgusting'. Plus, that's literally only one, relatively minor side of the grand polygon that is what he's done in this assembly. You can't honestly say that having passed nine really sensible resolutions, including Forced Marriages Ban Act and Stopping Suicide Seeds, plus working to improve the regions Balder and The Rejected Realms, which are currently two major feeder regions, is not commendable.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

You must forgive us; we vastly overestimated the ability of this body to tolerate differing points of view. Apparently the SC is no better than the GA in that regard. We will not be making the same mistake again, we assure you.

Thanks Kenny. If I understand your thinking correctly, we should be supporting commendations for players like CD not because they are actually commendable, but because we do not agree with their extreme, arguably disgusting, and very vocal personal views and actions. Furthermore, if we don't subscribe to your idea here then apparently we are everything that is wrong with the SC so much so that it's basically the same as the GA, which you seem to see in a very negative light. Got it?

No, if you don't subscribe to an idea because of ideological prejudice...then you are everything that's wrong with the WA (nevermind just the SC). And you're really not helping your case when you describe someone's views as "extreme" and "disgusting" just because you don't agree with them.

[Tim-Opolis]

Opposed and will actively campaign against due to things such as the Anti-Choice clause and other various. Scientific States and Nierr seem to sum up my opinion quite aptly.

[District XIV]

Opposed and will actively campaign against due to things such as the Anti-Choice clause and other various. Scientific States and Nierr seem to sum up my opinion quite aptly.

I'm Pro-Choice, but the only reason that I'm still holding onto this is because CD says he's ok with abortion in some cases.

[Nation of Quebec]

The ambassador points out that the act of creating a region is not worthy of a commendation, especially if that region is based on an ideology that is anti-women. We will instruct our counterpart in Uchila Eru to OPPOSE this motion.

[Drop Your Pants]

I think CD is the most detestable player in NationStates. I will dig up some of our old conversations later if it looks like it has any chance of passing, which I sincerely hope it does not. In the indelible words of CD: AGAINST

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[PrussianEmpire]

The ambassador points out that the act of creating a region is not worthy of a commendation, especially if that region is based on an ideology that is anti-women. We will instruct our counterpart in Uchila Eru to OPPOSE this motion.

It's not anti-women...it's anti-murder...

[District XIV]

The ambassador points out that the act of creating a region is not worthy of a commendation, especially if that region is based on an ideology that is anti-women. We will instruct our counterpart in Uchila Eru to OPPOSE this motion.

I said that the opinion that the regions promotes is controversial.

[District XIV]

And after a little over two months, I'll be submitting this soon.

The ambassador points out that the act of creating a region is not worthy of a commendation, especially if that region is based on an ideology that is anti-women. We will instruct our counterpart in Uchila Eru to OPPOSE this motion.

It's not anti-women...it's anti-murder...

Let's not venture into that realm here >_>

[Wrapper]

AWARE of 'Right to Life', a region created and maintained by Christian Democrats in an effort to tendentiously promote the Pro-Life side of the extremely controversial topic of abortion

Will never vote for something with a statement like this.

[District XIV]

AWARE of 'Right to Life', a region created and maintained by Christian Democrats in an effort to tendentiously promote the Pro-Life side of the extremely controversial topic of abortion

Will never vote for something with a statement like this.

In the way that you're against the "pro-life" movement or are "pro-life" and dislike the language used to convey such an activity?

I'm unsure

[Solorni]

Finally something different than the usual fare lately. I'm unsure on this one in all honesty.

[McMasterdonia]

Will never vote for something with a statement like this.

In the way that you're against the "pro-life" movement or are "pro-life" and dislike the language used to convey such an activity?

I'm unsure

Personally, I dislike the choice of language. Abortion is obviously a controversial issue, and people will likely vote against if the proposal is seen to be commending him for promoting that topic. You could perhaps suggest that while the WA does not necessarily agree with said world-view, that the dedication & commitment to his views is commendable. Just a suggestion

I certainly do not agree with Christian Democrat's world view, but I would probably vote For this. Largely due to what Sanctaria outlined on Page 1.

[Hakio]

"My constituents are basically split down the middle on this one," states Drock Greiger after a long day of debating. "About half of our Legionaries (the people who vote on the resolutions) are FOR and quite literally, exactly half are against. The contributions of Christian Democrats are respectable and most assuredly noteworthy, but the opposition to such a proposal rests on analysis of his conduct and some controversial political views. If it comes down to the wire I think I might support this."

[Evil Wolf]

RECOGNIZES the inter-regional political participation of Christian Democrats, such as in The Rejected Realms and the Founderless Regions Alliance, in which they have served in high-ranking government positions,

I don't understand why his mere membership in these regions, regardless of position, is commendable. Plenty of people have served in plenty of regions in high ranking positions and almost none of them have commends. What specifically makes CD's participation in TRR and FRA so noteworthy that it: a.) earns him a Commendation b.) is worth noting on a commendation?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

The ambassador points out that the act of creating a region is not worthy of a commendation, especially if that region is based on an ideology that is anti-women. We will instruct our counterpart in Uchila Eru to OPPOSE this motion.

It's wonderful to know that people are only worthy of commendation in the Security Council if their ideology is sufficiently politically correct. We'll make note of that the next time someone tries to commend AO.

Oh, wait. What was that? They already commended AO, a highly conservative, NatSov region? Oh, well, standards must have changed since then...

[Confused People]

The ambassador points out that the act of creating a region is not worthy of a commendation, especially if that region is based on an ideology that is anti-women. We will instruct our counterpart in Uchila Eru to OPPOSE this motion.

It's wonderful to know that people are only worthy of commendation in the Security Council if their ideology is sufficiently politically correct.

I don't think it's a question of being politically correct. It's more like people who disagree with the ideology will, unsurprisingly, disagree it's a reason for commendation.
...isn't commending based on a ideology a problem in itself?

[The Leningrad Union]

I don't think the pro life should be mentioned. It makes this more political than it has to be.

[Nation of Quebec]

While I agree that CD's contributions to the WA should be recognized, I cannot support this resolution as it currently stands.

The act of creating a region is not something that should be commended, especially if that region is dedicated to advocating a highly controversial political viewpoint.

The act of being a member of governments is also not really something that should be commended.

So as this resolution currently stands, I will instruct my WA puppet state to oppose this resolution.

[District XIV]

The act of creating a region is not something that should be commended, especially if that region is dedicated to advocating a highly controversial political viewpoint.

That's not a reason for this commendation though...

Why would a Pro-Choicer like myself commend a Pro-Lifer for doing Pro-Life things?

[Nation of Quebec]

The act of creating a region is not something that should be commended, especially if that region is dedicated to advocating a highly controversial political viewpoint.

That's not a reason for this commendation though...

Why would a Pro-Choicer like myself commend a Pro-Lifer for doing Pro-Life things?

I'm about as pro-choice as you can get and if someone created a pro-choice region I wouldn't commend them for it. I suspect many people who are pro-choice won't support this resolution just by the mere mention of the "Right to Life" region. It's a highly controversial region and it's the main reason why I refuse to support this resolution.

If the resolution was only for the WA resolutions CD wrote, then I would be more likely to support it, but I have issues with the clauses that aren't really worthy of being commended such as being the WA delegate for Catholic, for example.

[Dark Fire]

AWARE of 'Right to Life', a region created and maintained by Christian Democrats in an effort to tendentiously promote the Pro-Life side of the extremely controversial topic of abortion,

BELIEVES, despite controversial actions, Christian Democrats is still worthy of a commendation for their commitment to regional growth, inter-regional security, and notable World Assembly authorship,

That does not sound like "we commend because" to me, it sounds like "we commend despite".

[District XIV]

AWARE of 'Right to Life', a region created and maintained by Christian Democrats in an effort to tendentiously promote the Pro-Life side of the extremely controversial topic of abortion,

BELIEVES, despite controversial actions, Christian Democrats is still worthy of a commendation for their commitment to regional growth, inter-regional security, and notable World Assembly authorship,

That does not sound like "we commend because" to me, it sounds like "we commend despite".

Exactly.