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[DEFEATED] Repeal SC#17 Condemn Omigodtheykilledkenny

Postby Terravoss » Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:26 am

The Security Council,

Recognizing that Omigodtheykilledkenny is not a World Assembly member, nor has it been for quite a while,

Satisfied that the Creative Solutions Agency created and funded by Omigodtheykilledkenny no longer poses a threat to the World Assembly Compliance Commission, as Omigodtheykilledkenny is not a World Assembly member, and therefore is not required to comply with World Assembly law,

Seriously Doubting that any dolphin has ever been harmed by the governenment of Omigodtheykilledkenny,

Impressed that nation in a region of terrorists and war criminals Omigodtheykilledkenny has granted its citizens extensive civil rights, and political freedoms,

Further Impressed that Omigodtheykilledkenny has compiled and maintains an archive of World Assembly resolutions, and has authored groundbreaking resolutions such as: GAR #8 World Assembly Headquarters, and GAR #17 World Assembly General Fund, which have become the backbone of the World Assembly,

Understanding that Omigodtheykilledkenny, has actually done more positive for International Community than negative,

Thoroughly Convinced that Omigodtheykilledkenny has righted any and all wrongs committed against the World Assembly, and thus no longer deserves to be shunned,

Hereby Repeals SC Resolution #17 Condemn Omigodtheykilledkenny.
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Postby Ponderosa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:07 pm

I rather think he likes being condemned. It's kind of like a Commendation to him. You should ask him if he wants it repealed.
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Postby Abacathea » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:11 pm

Ponderosa wrote:I rather think he likes being condemned. It's kind of like a Commendation to him. You should ask him if he wants it repealed.


I was thinking the same thing, and then I was between two minds because the whole thing is we shouldn't condemn/commend just because they want it....

But Kenny's an exception
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:10 pm

Abacathea wrote:
Ponderosa wrote:I rather think he likes being condemned. It's kind of like a Commendation to him. You should ask him if he wants it repealed.


I was thinking the same thing, and then I was between two minds because the whole thing is we shouldn't condemn/commend just because they want it....

But Kenny's an exception


Not really. The point is Kenny doesn't deserve to be condemned, whether he wants it or not.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:19 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:Not really. The point is Kenny doesn't deserve to be condemned, whether he wants it or not.

...and the fact that I (accidentally) got you booted from the WA last week has no bearing on that opinion, I'm sure.
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Postby Pestarzt the Traveller » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:24 pm

What's the point of doing this?
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Postby Feux » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:25 pm

Pestarzt the Traveller wrote:I don't see the point of this.

I was just thinking that. Let the guy keep his badge.
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:29 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
United Federation of Canada wrote:Not really. The point is Kenny doesn't deserve to be condemned, whether he wants it or not.

...and the fact that I (accidentally) got you booted from the WA last week has no bearing on that opinion, I'm sure.


None at all. You have done great things for the international community, yet you are condemned?

Kind of defeats the whole purpose of condemning someone doesn't it?

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Postby Helltank » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:21 am

It actually makes sense. He likes condemnations; therefore the SC rewards him with one when he does good things for the WA.
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:26 am

Terravoss wrote:Recognizing that Omigodtheykilledkenny is not a World Assembly member, nor have they been for quite a while,

Should be "nor has it". Remember, you're dealing with nations rather than players here.

Terravoss wrote:Impressed by the fact that for a nation residing in a region of terrorists and war criminals Omigodtheykilledkenny has granted it's citizens extensive civil rights, and political freedoms,

Should be "its," not "it's."

Aside from these few minor errors, I support this proposal and would be willing to assist you in campaigning for it if needed.

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:08 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
United Federation of Canada wrote:Not really. The point is Kenny doesn't deserve to be condemned, whether he wants it or not.

...and the fact that I (accidentally) got you booted from the WA last week has no bearing on that opinion, I'm sure.

Well that explains it.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:52 am

Kenny should keep his badge.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:34 pm

This is actually one of the better repeals I've seen for this. It errs on its assumption that my membership in the WA even matters -- because the condemnation was based on historical acts, and was intended to teach newer members a lesson about not doing what Donny Don't Does, not to chide me into correcting my behavior (because we all know that never works). Citing my nation's supposed "positive" contributions to the WA won't work either, as the mods seem to think that arguments based on good behavior should be the basis for a commendation, not a repeal. (Or was it the other way around? I can't remember.) Try commending me, however, and I might have to start reminding people why I was condemned in the first place. Just don't do it. Image
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Postby Terravoss » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:04 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:This is actually one of the better repeals I've seen for this. It errs on its assumption that my membership in the WA even matters -- because the condemnation was based on historical acts, and was intended to teach newer members a lesson about not doing what Donny Don't Does, not to act as a ploy to chide me into correcting my behavior (because we all know that never works). Citing my nation's supposed "positive" contributions to the WA won't work either, as the mods seem to think that arguments based on good behavior should be the basis for a commendation, not a repeal. (Or was it the other way around? I can't remember.) Try commending me, however, and I might have to start reminding people why I was condemned in the first place. Just don't do it. (Image)


Thank you Kenny for the kind words. Flattery will not win you and points here though. As far as I am concerned you have righted your wrongs, and thus no longer deserved to be condemned. If someone else desires writing a commendation for you, I will gladly support them, but as it stands I am going to push this one, and a repeal of Liberate Nazi Europe, in an attempt to restore some kind of balance and order, to this laughingstock we call an assembly. I am truly sorry, you happen to be the target here, but as they say "C'est la vie".

Cormac, I will be contacting you via TG shortly before I submit this, so you can begin campaigning.

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:24 pm

Terravoss wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:This is actually one of the better repeals I've seen for this. It errs on its assumption that my membership in the WA even matters -- because the condemnation was based on historical acts, and was intended to teach newer members a lesson about not doing what Donny Don't Does, not to act as a ploy to chide me into correcting my behavior (because we all know that never works). Citing my nation's supposed "positive" contributions to the WA won't work either, as the mods seem to think that arguments based on good behavior should be the basis for a commendation, not a repeal. (Or was it the other way around? I can't remember.) Try commending me, however, and I might have to start reminding people why I was condemned in the first place. Just don't do it. (Image)


Thank you Kenny for the kind words. Flattery will not win you and points here though. As far as I am concerned you have righted your wrongs, and thus no longer deserved to be condemned. If someone else desires writing a commendation for you, I will gladly support them, but as it stands I am going to push this one, and a repeal of Liberate Nazi Europe, in an attempt to restore some kind of balance and order, to this laughingstock we call an assembly. I am truly sorry, you happen to be the target here, but as they say "C'est la vie".

Cormac, I will be contacting you via TG shortly before I submit this, so you can begin campaigning.

Upward and Onward!!! (Or something like that, anyway)

Good to see that every single one of his points went over your head.
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Postby Terravoss » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:28 pm

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Terravoss wrote:
Thank you Kenny for the kind words. Flattery will not win you and points here though. As far as I am concerned you have righted your wrongs, and thus no longer deserved to be condemned. If someone else desires writing a commendation for you, I will gladly support them, but as it stands I am going to push this one, and a repeal of Liberate Nazi Europe, in an attempt to restore some kind of balance and order, to this laughingstock we call an assembly. I am truly sorry, you happen to be the target here, but as they say "C'est la vie".

Cormac, I will be contacting you via TG shortly before I submit this, so you can begin campaigning.

Upward and Onward!!! (Or something like that, anyway)

Good to see that every single one of his points went over your head.


Not at all my good Sir. I was trying to be polite.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Terravoss wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:This is actually one of the better repeals I've seen for this. It errs on its assumption that my membership in the WA even matters -- because the condemnation was based on historical acts, and was intended to teach newer members a lesson about not doing what Donny Don't Does, not to act as a ploy to chide me into correcting my behavior (because we all know that never works). Citing my nation's supposed "positive" contributions to the WA won't work either, as the mods seem to think that arguments based on good behavior should be the basis for a commendation, not a repeal. (Or was it the other way around? I can't remember.) Try commending me, however, and I might have to start reminding people why I was condemned in the first place. Just don't do it. (Image)


Thank you Kenny for the kind words. Flattery will not win you and points here though.

Who's trying to flatter anybody? All I said was that this is one of the better-written repeals for this that I've seen, which isn't exactly an herculean feat, considering all the crap that has already been proposed as repeals for the first national condemnation. That said, this repeal misses the point of the condemnation entirely, and is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the General Assembly and its machinations. Unibot did not write the condemnation simply to state that the CSA was bad; any idiot could have done that. He wrote it in order to discourage newer members of the GA from emulating the CSA by undertaking their own loophole-exploiting projects. Because, you see, the GA is an evil, tyrannical, hyper-meddling, micromanaging organization that longs for nothing more than to suck all the life and freedom out of its member states, by rigorously enforcing the dictatorial mandates it mindlessly passes week after week, and Unibot's condemnation represents that point-of-view brilliantly, by stating that members should not only follow all the GA's screwy laws to the letter, they shouldn't even be entitled to wriggle out of it by finding loopholes. So unless you can think of a better way for the GA to denounce nations that try to weasel their way out of enforcing the laws they voluntarily agreed to comply with, you're better off keeping this thing in place.

As far as I am concerned you have righted your wrongs, and thus no longer deserved to be condemned.

Actually, this condemnation was passed long after I did all those great things you talk about in your proposal. Your argument fails.

Which isn't to say that I would never support a repeal of this condemnation. I just think it deserves a much cleverer, more informed, and dare I say, funnier?, repeal argument than this one. The author of the original was good enough to put a little extra effort into his resolution than the mindless recitation of facts; the repeal author should too.
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Postby The Palentine » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:38 am

Kenny wrote:Because, you see, the GA is an evil, tyrannical, hyper-meddling, micromanaging organization that longs for nothing more than to suck all the life and freedom out of its member states, by rigorously enforcing the dictatorial mandates it mindlessly passes week after week


That is so true, bossman! You certianly have a way with words. You speak purtier than a $20.00 harlot.

I'd commend you if only for your way with words.

Kenny wrote:Which isn't to say that I would never support a repeal of this condemnation. I just think it deserves a much cleverer, more informed, and dare I say, funnier?, repeal argument than this one.

Yeah. If I'm going to drag myself over from the Festering Snakepit over to this den of inequity and shame, at least make it worth my while. Show some wit and creativity, Spanky.

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Postby Yelda » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:11 pm

The Palentine wrote:Yeah. If I'm going to drag myself over from the Festering Snakepit over to this den of inequity and shame.....

I don't always post here, but when I do, I post in opposition to "Repeal Condemn Omigodtheykilledkenny".

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:37 pm

Helltank wrote:It actually makes sense. He likes condemnations; therefore the SC rewards him with one when he does good things for the WA.

Or we can repeal the condemnation and replace it with a commendation, if so desired, but that's kind of pointless.
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Postby Terravoss » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:09 am

The Palentine wrote:
Kenny wrote:Because, you see, the GA is an evil, tyrannical, hyper-meddling, micromanaging organization that longs for nothing more than to suck all the life and freedom out of its member states, by rigorously enforcing the dictatorial mandates it mindlessly passes week after week


That is so true, bossman! You certianly have a way with words. You speak purtier than a $20.00 harlot.

I'd commend you if only for your way with words.

Kenny wrote:Which isn't to say that I would never support a repeal of this condemnation. I just think it deserves a much cleverer, more informed, and dare I say, funnier?, repeal argument than this one.

Yeah. If I'm going to drag myself over from the Festering Snakepit over to this den of inequity and shame, at least make it worth my while. Show some wit and creativity, Spanky.

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Spanky? Does anyone even say that anymore, or ever?
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Postby The Palentine » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:43 am

Terravoss wrote:Spanky? Does anyone even say that anymore, or ever?


"Apparently old bean, you don't frequent the Festering Snakepit much. Spanky or Sparky are just two of the nicer ways I've refered to my fellow ambassadors. Others are old bean, miserable sods, sods, screwheads, nitwits, nincompoops, cretins, defectives, degegerates, reprobates, fluffies, nannystaters, do-gooders, morons and Dr. Castro."

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Postby Feux » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:13 pm

Are we still talking about this?
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Postby Christom » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:14 am

I guess. Though it doesn't look like it is going anywhere. Nor should it.
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