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[Draft] Commend Biyah

Postby Lapeirousia » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:55 pm

This is my first SC draft that I'm putting up. I will need help from the Security Council in getting it up to scratch.

Updated, version 2:

The Security Council,

Recognizing The Ever-Watchful Federation of Biyah as one of the most ancient and revered nations in the world;

Remembering the very many hats that this nation has worn and continues to wear, figuratively, having defended many regions of NationStates via its role in High Command of the Alliance Defense Network, and working behind the scenes during many of the more colourful moments of world history, like some kind of Fate, ensuring events unfold as they should;

Saddened that proper intelligence work seems to be a dying art in NationStates, and one in which Biyah has tremendously excelled, be it raiding with the Atlantic Alliance, defending with the ADN/UDL or assisting for or against coups d'etat in the pacifics, including, but not limited to, the WPT, the WPD, the Empire of Osiris, and the Coalition of the South Pacific.

Conceding that the leader of Biyah is a card carrying member of the ex-feeder tyrants club;

Noting, on the contrary, that [/i]The Empire[/i]'s regime, which this nation (via Lord Rahl) helped to perpetrate in The East Pacific, served not only to shake that region up, but also spurred the citizens of the member nations of that region, in the fullness of time, into creating for themselves a democratic system of regional government;

Celebrating the many and long-lasting contributions Biyah has made to community building, most recently in the The Sovereign Confederation, an inter-regional organization working to protect the sovereignty of its members, and in Osiris, where Biyah was represented as Kai Repat and Spokesperson of the Septarchy, and used Biyan influence to improve social cohesion of that group, promoting a strong regional identity for Osiris;

Realizing Biyah works tirelessly to protect what Biyah cares about;

Hereby commends the Ever-Watchful Federation of Biyah.


I welcome any feedback, positive or negative, especially if it is contructive. I'm not familiar with the SC norms. What do the members of the SC think?

The Security Council,

Recognizing Biyah as one of the oldest and most respected players in the game;

Remembering the very many hats that he has worn and continues to wear, and his contributions to defending many regions of NationStates in his capacity as High Command of the Alliance Defense Network;

Saddened that proper intelligence work seems to be a dying art in NationStates, and one in which Biyah has tremendously excelled;

Conceding that Biyah is a card carrying member of the ex-feeder tyrants club;

Noting, on the contrary, that The Empire's regime that Biyah, under his alias Lord Rahl, helped to perpetrate in The East Pacific, served not only to shake the region up, but also spurred the citizens of that region, in the fullness of time, into creating for themselves a democratic system of government;

Celebrating the many and long-lasting contributions Biyah has made to community building, most recently in the The Sovereign Confederation, an inter-regional organization working to protect the sovereignty of its members, and in Osiris, where he has served in multiple positions, including Kai Repat and Spokesperson of the Septarchy, improved social cohesion of the group, promoted a strong regional identity;

Realizing Biyah works tirelessly to protect what he cares about;

Hereby commends the Ever-Watchful Federation of Biyah.
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:57 pm

Illegal. You can't use words such as 'he' and 'his' to refer to a nation as it breaks Rule 4a.

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Postby Belschaft » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:23 pm

If you could work your away around the illegalities I'd definitely like to see this go further. Biyah is a clear contender for best player in the game.
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Postby Sciongrad » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:11 pm

Belschaft wrote:If you could work your away around the illegalities I'd definitely like to see this go further. Biyah is a clear contender for best player in the game.


That statement is exorbitantly biased in favor of a Gameplay perspective, and certainly doesn't reflect views of many different communities of the game. And even then, Biyah may not even be the best player in Gameplay - which is not to say I don't think he's an excellent player. But the exaggeration is a bit excessive.
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Postby Vladisvok Destino » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:18 pm

Recognizing Biyah as one of the oldest and most respected players in the game;


:rofl:

Saddened that proper intelligence work seems to be a dying art in NationStates, and one in which Biyah has tremendously excelled;


I think the term you're looking for is "abusing peoples RL information for ingame benefit."


Celebrating the many and long-lasting contributions Biyah has made to community building, most recently in the The Sovereign Confederation, an inter-regional organization working to protect the sovereignty of its members,


The only commendable thing SovCon did was to disband.

Against obviously.
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Postby SkyDip » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:35 am

I'm in 100% agreement with Vlad on this one.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:32 am

While I can't officially speak for the West Pacific government, I am sure that if this ever makes it to the floor for voting we will be against it.

Of course we'll have to remember to stop laughing.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:26 pm

Lapeirousia wrote:Realizing Biyah works tirelessly to protect what he cares about;

Himself.

Against.

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Postby The Bruce » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:05 am

Biyah is one of those extremely active players of the game that are going to have some people wanting to commend and a whole lot of people want to condemn at the same time. They’ve certainly gotten involved in many of the more colourful moments of NationStates, especially whenever there’s been conflict in the feeders and sinkers. Has there been a calamity in the feeders or sinkers where Biyah wasn’t involved in some way, either as an active agent of chaos or working behind the scenes? Whenever there has been a summit to discuss the future of the game, he’s not just showed up, but been an active participant (save the recently failed one that didn’t have open participation). I seem to remember it was Biyah that was one of the key players responsible for schmoozing Equilism out of the defender sphere at the Neutral Territories summit (which was the biggest result of that summit).

Between releasing secret communications that outed Sedgistan as the one behind the attempted coup of the South Pacific; to his involvement in the coup by Dalimbar to briefly snatch the delegacy of Osiris; to their significant involvement in the 2008 invasion of the East Pacific; to his involvement in the SovCon; an invader as far back as the reviled Atlantic Alliance back in 2003; as well as a defender involved in the ADN, UDL, and the Medjai Guard, Biyah has been pretty busy. You might need a lot of input to include everything that Biyah has been up to in NationStates to write up either a proper condemnation or commendation. While Biyah may have done some commendable things, I’m not certain a complete list of their activities would be in keeping with the theme of a commendation, as much as a condemnation (especially if you asked the feeder voting block). From the point of view of commendation and condemnation he’s had his hands caught inside a lot of cookie jars, but there’s no denying how active he’s been at influencing events over the years.

The list of Biyah’s activities should probably include the words somewhere: “and furthermore your honour, on the dates previously mentioned, the one known as Biyah did-“

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:24 am

Don't forget the West Pacific Triumvirate, the West Pacific Dominion, the attempt to run an unendorsement campaign against the West Pacific Delegate, Lots of Ants.

Funny thing though, nothing Biyah has a hand in seems to last that long. The WPT lasted less than a week. Within a fortnight of the WPD taking over the West Pacific he'd had a falling out with Wickedly Evil People and joined the Opposition. And the unendorsement campaign was a flat fail.
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Postby Zaolat » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:10 pm

I would be for if this was in line with the rules, and more descriptive.
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Postby the Imperial Crown » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Pending a more detailed proposal, I think it has merit and may be one of those highly contentious proposals that causes regions to actually get off of their rears and fight about.

Anything that brings more life into this game would be fine with me, within reason. I'll adopt a wait and see stance for this, but this definitely has promise to be if nothing else, very interesting to watch.
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Postby Elias Greyjoy » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:47 am

the Imperial Crown wrote:Anything that brings more life into this game would be fine with me, within reason.

Wanna coup Osiris? :p
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Postby North East Somerset » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:13 am

Biyah is a big character in NS. Doesn't take any crap. Solid bloke.

Full Support.
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Postby Feux » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:23 am

How does the author know Biyah?
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Postby Cromarty » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:54 pm

Elias Greyjoy wrote:
the Imperial Crown wrote:Anything that brings more life into this game would be fine with me, within reason.

Wanna coup Osiris? :p

Biyah already did.

Against.
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Feux wrote:How does the author know Biyah?

This also needs answering.
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Postby Cromarty » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:58 pm

The Bruce wrote:to his involvement in the coup by Dalimbar to briefly snatch the delegacy of Osiris;

A mischaracterisation of the coup there. New Kervoska was the one who couped the region, Dali only taking the delegacy when a mistake was made during the change over back to me. It was as much, probably more, a coup by Biyah than by Dalimbar. Biyah's betrayal of Osiris was certainly bigger than Dalimbar's, to be honest.
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Postby Elias Greyjoy » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:34 pm

Cromarty wrote:
Elias Greyjoy wrote:Wanna coup Osiris? :p

Biyah already did.

Against.

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Postby Eist » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:55 pm

Biyah is a great player of this game, but he doesn't deserve a commendation. I would be more receptive of the idea of condemning him, actually. I would vote AGAINST this if it made it to vote.
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Postby Lapeirousia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:17 pm

Cromarty wrote:
Feux wrote:How does the author know Biyah?

This also needs answering.

I don't see why it needs answering.

I don't know Biyah exactly. You're the one who helped him build and maintain a thriving community in Osiris and eventually worked together to ensure it survived his betrayal of the region in the coup. Right? That's one of the reasons I proposed commending him.

What I know of Biyah comes mainly second-hand knowledge, except the stories of his time in Nasicournia and the ADN which he told first hand, although I can't remember the details.

Due to bad planning I don't have as much time to devote to this draft as I intended, would be happy for someone else to pick this up now, especially if it's NES, as I know him got a good grasp of logic.

There are a lot of things people have mentioned that I didn't think of, which should be incorporated into it. Possibly the Lemon Love example. Also the rewriting of it to an In-Character point of view is essential and less about personality.

Times that I've come into contact with Biyah I've normally been opposed to what he says and does, but have got to the point where this nation should be recognized for its achievements. A lot of players have retired recently and perhaps this is one nation we should commend before we get to that point, I don't want anybody to leave, but the game would be particularly diminished without this character.

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Postby Elias Greyjoy » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:22 pm

Lapeirousia wrote:the game would be particularly diminished without this character.

I highly doubt that.
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Postby Feux » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:54 pm

Lapeirousia wrote:
Cromarty wrote:This also needs answering.

I don't see why it needs answering.


Because I think your a puppet of another player.

Times that I've come into contact with Biyah I've normally been opposed to what he says and does,


Could you tell me about these times?
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Postby Anur-Sanur » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:15 pm

Belschaft wrote:Biyah is a clear contender for best player in the game.


Please give me some of what you are smoking.

Anyone who thinks this way is simply ignorant of all the help Biyah has got along the way.

To put in another way, this guy has always been a coalition member. He's just been the one to always be the most abrasive and obnoxious.

His greatest accomplishments hail from an antiquated age, he has remained relevant only through a mythos perpetuated by his cadre and by inserting himself uselessly into the affairs of the day.

His recent play in Osiris was no mastermind feat, merely the predictable result (as forewarned by myself and others) of leaving the region in the hands of a teenage girl and her internet boyfriend.

Not to mention that days before the "daring coup", he was to be found begging update raiders for support - a constituency he routinely maligns when he isn't before them on his knees - and was to be found in the hours after drunk on IRC seemingly regretting the whole affair.

If anything, his conduct in Osiris is a primer on how to not conduct yourself in NS.

Not to mention the fact that he treated Crazy Girl, one of TRRs few true remaining natives, in a manner of gross contempt and spite for simply questioning why the outsider Naivetry was being inserted as delegate without any prior consultation.

Oh, also congratulations for catching Gnidrah napping and then dishing out communiques as if you were some kind of NS - Napoleon Bonaparte . How amazing.

Also yes, check on the ID of the person submitting this. Going back to MR and TRR, I wouldn't be surprised if Biyah was submitting this himself.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:38 pm

Anur-Sanur wrote:
Belschaft wrote:Biyah is a clear contender for best player in the game.


Please give me some of what you are smoking.

Anyone who thinks this way is simply ignorant of all the help Biyah has got along the way.

To put in another way, this guy has always been a coalition member. He's just been the one to always be the most abrasive and obnoxious.

His greatest accomplishments hail from an antiquated age, he has remained relevant only through a mythos perpetuated by his cadre and by inserting himself uselessly into the affairs of the day.

His recent play in Osiris was no mastermind feat, merely the predictable result (as forewarned by myself and others) of leaving the region in the hands of a teenage girl and her internet boyfriend.

Not to mention that days before the "daring coup", he was to be found begging update raiders for support - a constituency he routinely maligns when he isn't before them on his knees - and was to be found in the hours after drunk on IRC seemingly regretting the whole affair.

If anything, his conduct in Osiris is a primer on how to not conduct yourself in NS.

Not to mention the fact that he treated Crazy Girl, one of TRRs few true remaining natives, in a manner of gross contempt and spite for simply questioning why the outsider Naivetry was being inserted as delegate without any prior consultation.

Oh, also congratulations for catching Gnidrah napping and then dishing out communiques as if you were some kind of NS - Napoleon Bonaparte . How amazing.

Also yes, check on the ID of the person submitting this. Going back to MR and TRR, I wouldn't be surprised if Biyah was submitting this himself.

Do you actually like -anyone- in this game?

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