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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:38 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: state_of_blackmore_1434454915

Condemn Nazi Europa

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.



Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Nazi Europa

Proposed by: State Of Blackmore


Description: NOTING the immense size of Nazi Europa,

APPALLED at the Invader nature of Nazi Europa,

HORRIFIED by the fascist-imperialist endeavours of Nazi Europa,

SHOCKED at the genocides carried out by BLITZKRIEG, the military arm of Nazi Europa (e.g. The Jewish Union and Jewish Europe)

The World Assembly hereby CONDMENS Nazi Europa for flagrant violations of international law.

Technically R3, because "condemns" is misspelt as "Condmens" or am I being overly picky?

Edit: maybe not.

Spelling:

Ardchoille wrote:
in either WA chamber, if mis-spelling causes you to mis-state what you're trying to do, so that your proposal doesn't do what you say it does, it's ruled illegal. If, on the other hand, the mis-spelt word isn't essential to the understanding of the proposal, we don't kill it for that reason alone.
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:58 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Technically R3, because "condemns" is misspelt as "Condmens" or am I being overly picky?

Yeah, too picky - it isn't essential to the understanding of the proposal (the typo is clearly meant to be "Condemns").

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:52 am

Thanks for clarifying Sedge.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Nurkama » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:09 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: cia_agents_1434403928

Liberate GOLDEN NAZI REICH

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): GOLDEN NAZI REICH

Proposed by: CIA agents

Description: This medium community was sacked by antifa and passworded whereby liberates GOLDEN NAZI REICH

Approvals: 2 (Vardian Empire, Wintariu)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 7 hours

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:00 pm

That one's already been reported, Nurkama.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:31 pm

The "Liberate GOLDEN NAZI REICH" one is just about legal. Read "whereby" as "hereby", and it has an argument plus an operative clause.

That said, the author had a few others removed this morning, and is also banned from the WA as a result of plagiarism.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:20 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: cia_agents_1434729826

Commend Nazi Europa

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Nazi Europa

Proposed by: CIA agents

Description: Noting the heroic deeds of nazi Europa defending regions from antifa

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 92 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours

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Sedgistan wrote:...and is also banned from the WA as a result of plagiarism.

How did the guy submit this, then? It's the same guy.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:12 pm

It was submitted prior to him being banned.

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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:46 pm

Sedgistan wrote:It was submitted prior to him being banned.


That wasn't the person banned for plagiarism that I reported Sedge. CIA Agents voluntarily resigned from the WA is says.
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Postby Nurkama » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:41 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: kingswell_1434671566

Commend British Isles

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: British Isles

Proposed by: Kingswell

Description: The reason for this proposal being submitted...
To recognize a region of significant size and success. While at the same time, having amazing regional power.

To acknowledge it and all of its members, for all the great differences it has made in the world for the better.

To draw attention and appreciation to a region that has the highest population and popularity of any region in existence with the name 'British Isles.'
Hereby, commending The British Isles

Approvals: 2 (America in Space, Domenic and friends)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 4 hours


R4 violations
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:44 pm

My pickiness treats the last clause as R3, but I don't see any other illegalities apart from the own-region commendation and fragmented sentences.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:29 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:My pickiness treats the last clause as R3, but I don't see any other illegalities apart from the own-region commendation and fragmented sentences.

Commending your own region isn't illegal. [Just saying]
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Postby Nurkama » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:23 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:My pickiness treats the last clause as R3, but I don't see any other illegalities apart from the own-region commendation and fragmented sentences.

Commending your own region isn't illegal. [Just saying]


It is illegal.
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Postby Nurkama » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:24 am

Description: To...
~ Recognize ~ The WA Delegate of British Isles, who has been the Delegate for about two thirds of a year. And lead the region to good success. Therefore deserves it.

~ Draw Attention ~ To the region, British Isles, which is Sollis is Delegate over. And for the great region it has become.

~ Show Appreciation ~ To the nation Sollis, for all that it has done for the region. While at the same time being quite a strong nation by itself.

Hereby, commends The British Isles Delegate of Sollis

Approvals: 3 (America in Space, Domenic and friends, Wintariu)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 1 day 12 hours


R3 and R4 violations.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:49 am

Nurkama wrote:
Description: To...
~ Recognize ~ The WA Delegate of British Isles, who has been the Delegate for about two thirds of a year. And lead the region to good success. Therefore deserves it.

~ Draw Attention ~ To the region, British Isles, which is Sollis is Delegate over. And for the great region it has become.

~ Show Appreciation ~ To the nation Sollis, for all that it has done for the region. While at the same time being quite a strong nation by itself.

Hereby, commends The British Isles Delegate of Sollis

Approvals: 3 (America in Space, Domenic and friends, Wintariu)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 1 day 12 hours


R3 and R4 violations.

It has an operative clause, and I don't see the R4 violations.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:43 am

Nurkama wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Commending your own region isn't illegal. [Just saying]


It is illegal.

Where in the SC rules does it say that?

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Nurkama wrote:
Description: To...
~ Recognize ~ The WA Delegate of British Isles, who has been the Delegate for about two thirds of a year. And lead the region to good success. Therefore deserves it.

~ Draw Attention ~ To the region, British Isles, which is Sollis is Delegate over. And for the great region it has become.

~ Show Appreciation ~ To the nation Sollis, for all that it has done for the region. While at the same time being quite a strong nation by itself.

Hereby, commends The British Isles Delegate of Sollis

Approvals: 3 (America in Space, Domenic and friends, Wintariu)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 1 day 12 hours


R3 and R4 violations.

It has an operative clause, and I don't see the R4 violations.

I agree. It has some awkward grammar, but otherwise doesn't appear to have any illegalities.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:36 am

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:It was submitted prior to him being banned.


That wasn't the person banned for plagiarism that I reported Sedge. CIA Agents voluntarily resigned from the WA is says.

Yeah, looks like I was getting confused.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:37 am

Nurkama wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Commending your own region isn't illegal. [Just saying]


It is illegal.

Incorrect.

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Postby Nurkama » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:56 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Nurkama wrote:
It is illegal.

Incorrect.


Well then whoever told me it was illegal was wrong. Because I remember someone telling me that commending your own region is illegal. Or was it nation. I bet you it was probably nation.
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:14 pm

Nurkama wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Incorrect.


Well then whoever told me it was illegal was wrong. Because I remember someone telling me that commending your own region is illegal. Or was it nation. I bet you it was probably nation.


Neither is illegal. Please read the actual rules before giving your "expert" opinion please?
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:23 pm

Nurkama wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Incorrect.


Well then whoever told me it was illegal was wrong. Because I remember someone telling me that commending your own region is illegal. Or was it nation. I bet you it was probably nation.

You may be thinking of the Commend Auralia proposal that was removed due to the nation illegally submitting the proposal while WA multying. The fact that the nation tried to commend itself was not the problem; rather, it was the fact that the nation was breaking in-game rules.

Needless to say, there are numerous examples that clearly show how self-commendations are typically mocked, frowned upon, and are socially unacceptable in this body. So while it's not illegal, it's certainly looked upon with scorn.

Yes, this is kind of beating a dead horse, but this subject has been confused several times in this thread (see the second link for some examples) so it's worth bringing it up.
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Postby Old Hope » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:55 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: fultzan_1434894366
Condemn Brasilistan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Brasilistan


Proposed by: Fultzan

Description: Brasilistan has been abducting tourists. Then enslaving them to work in diamond mines. It is even accepted by the government

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

This Brasilistan isn't the one from the issue chain. And no active clause.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:17 pm

Condemn DEN

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: DEN

Proposed by: Beelzebub Confederacy

Description: NOTING that the Region of DEN only exists as an organized raiding group, while

NOTING that raiding groups intentionally cause irreparable damage to lesser, founder-less Regions by taking them over, erasing Factbook entries and suppressing RMB communications, causing nations to want to leave the Regions, essentially destroying the Region.

NOTING that DEN creates other raiding Regions in an effort to not disappear should their main Region fall apart.

ACKNOWLEDGING that DEN continues to threaten verbally other Regions associated with the demise of their former Region, the Black Riders.

ACCEPTING that altogether Regions based solely on the purpose of raiding other Regions is harmful to the entire NationStates experience, and should be banned.

CONDEMNING this Region for their continued abuses of minor Regions paired with the idea that large-scale Regions with the sole purpose of conducting raids on minor Regions should be banned.

I'm pretty sure that the operative clause isn't up to par. It never actually says "DEN" anywhere in the op clause, and also appears to be doing more than condemning.
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Postby Nurkama » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:15 am

Old Hope wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: fultzan_1434894366
Condemn Brasilistan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Brasilistan


Proposed by: Fultzan

Description: Brasilistan has been abducting tourists. Then enslaving them to work in diamond mines. It is even accepted by the government

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

This Brasilistan isn't the one from the issue chain. And no active clause.


Haha. He thought that The Chain issues were real and that's what Brasilistan was actually doing.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:16 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: cornelian_states_1435186302

Condemn The Coalition

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Coalition

Proposed by: Cornelian States

Description: Recognizing The Coalition's stance on capitalism

Condemning the region's ill-fated fight for corporate freedoms and their laissez-faire policies

Observing their unfair laws against citizens who believe in socialism

Observing their unfair laws against small businesses

Noting their carelessness for inhumane actions committed by citizens of that regions

Condemning their carelessness towards political freedoms

Hereby condemning The coalition of their despicable activity as a region

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Technically R3
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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