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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:50 am

The author requested it.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:40 am

Sedgistan wrote:The author requested it.

Okay.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:50 am

Condemn Krulltopia

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Krulltopia

Proposed by: Laurentius

Description: To the Security Council,

UNDERSTANDING that The Bunny Emperor of Krulltopia is the current 'emperor' of The Pacific.

KNOWING that Krulltopia's regime is ruthless and also in some cases oppressive.

FURTHER UNDERSTANDING Krulltopia's involvement in the Lazarene overthrow, in which the Lazarene People's Republic was replaced with the Pacifican Puppet 'New Lazarene Order'.

ACKNOWLEDGING that because of this, the Feeder and Sinker regions had to shut down embassies with the Pacific and Lazarus that have been in place for several years

FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING that Krulltopia has betrayed the Founderless Regions Alliance by overthowing Lazarus, in which ironically the FRA was set up to maintain freedom in founderless regions such as Lazarus.

UNDERSTANDING that Krulltopia must be punished for his rogue behavior.

Hereby Condemns The Bunny Emperor of Krulltopia.

4c. Several gameplay terms that I'm pretty sure are illegal, specifically the word "founderless". The rest I a unsure of; 4c is the only rule that I have trouble identifying.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:11 am

The only part that was illegal was this:
UNDERSTANDING that Krulltopia must be punished for his rogue behavior


Terms like "founderless" are fine - the NationStates world has founders, and can have regions that are founderless.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:16 am

Sedgistan wrote:The only part that was illegal was this:
UNDERSTANDING that Krulltopia must be punished for his rogue behavior


Terms like "founderless" are fine - the NationStates world has founders, and can have regions that are founderless.

Alright Sedg. I really hate 4c. I can never get it right. I completely missed the "his" though. :(
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:17 am

Just bear in mind that the NS world is different to the real world, and has things like founders, endorsements, ejections, passwords, RMBs, moving regions and so on - those are part of the NS world, and can be mentioned legally in proposals.

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Postby Ebsotz » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:04 pm

Sedgistan wrote:The only part that was illegal was this:
UNDERSTANDING that Krulltopia must be punished for his rogue behavior


Terms like "founderless" are fine - the NationStates world has founders, and can have regions that are founderless.

Rule2? I forgot, but he used "he".

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Postby Ebsotz » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:08 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Condemn Krulltopia

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Krulltopia

Proposed by: Laurentius

Description: To the Security Council,

UNDERSTANDING that The Bunny Emperor of Krulltopia is the current 'emperor' of The Pacific.

KNOWING that Krulltopia's regime is ruthless and also in some cases oppressive.

FURTHER UNDERSTANDING Krulltopia's involvement in the Lazarene overthrow, in which the Lazarene People's Republic was replaced with the Pacifican Puppet 'New Lazarene Order'.

ACKNOWLEDGING that because of this, the Feeder and Sinker regions had to shut down embassies with the Pacific and Lazarus that have been in place for several years

FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING that Krulltopia has betrayed the Founderless Regions Alliance by overthowing Lazarus, in which ironically the FRA was set up to maintain freedom in founderless regions such as Lazarus.

UNDERSTANDING that Krulltopia must be punished for his rogue behavior.

Hereby Condemns The Bunny Emperor of Krulltopia.

4c. Several gameplay terms that I'm pretty sure are illegal, specifically the word "founderless". The rest I a unsure of; 4c is the only rule that I have trouble identifying.

Just realized it was 4b. Not bad, however :clap:

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:50 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: jaskerov_1430091963

Condemn Svezjacael

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Svezjacael

Proposed by: Jaskerov

Description: Description:To the Members of the Security Council:

Recognizing that the recent coup in Lazarus by the New Pacific Order (NPO) was participated in by several nations from the NPO, whom took many roles in oppressing the locals.

Repulsed that the nation Svezjacael partook the role of diplomatic front man as the nation of Rushian Kingdom under the New Lazarene Order from the earliest days of the occupation, as evident by their factbook.

Recalling that Rushian Kingdom downplayed the severity of what Stujenske was doing in banjection of several Lazarene natives by claiming it was to keep the peace in the region.

Acknowledging that Rushian Kingdom remains in Lazarus, pitifully attempting to maintain relations with the natives and blatantly ignoring the harmful role diplomatic suppression held on the natives of the region.

Shocked to find that Svezjacael is an adamant supporter of the NPO, organizing a fair in a pinned post in The Pacific in order to show that he does not care about the World Assembly condemnations of the Pacificans who ordered the brutal occupation of Lazarus.

Asserting the need to show the members of the NPO that even members who did not participate in military operations are just as guilty of suppressing Lazarene Natives, especially when their claimed 'negotiations' were to call the Lazarenes to stop fighting the illegal government of the NLO and accept their occupation.

Urging nations to remind the NPO that their coup of Lazarus will forever change the view of the NPO by other regions and anybody aligned with the NPO will be looked at with suspicion.

Hereby condemns Svezjacael

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

R4, underlined.
Last edited by Kaboomlandia on Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:28 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: ibarbarantium_1430154537

Commend UnitedGermanRegions

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: UnitedGermanRegions

Proposed by: Ibarbarantium

Description: The Black riders are dead.....
no more explanation needed

Approvals: 1 (Ghant)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours

R3.
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:28 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: just_russia_1430176499

Commend The Insane Region

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: The Insane Region

Proposed by: Just russia

Description: As of today on April 27, 2015, The Black Riders have fallen. The region who led this great day in NationStates history is The Insane Region. They stood up to The Black Riders when no one else would and when others recieved his call for help, regions that had enough of the tyranny of The Black Riders stood came to his aid and helped overthrow the black riders
The following Regions have also contributed to this eipic day in history
The Empire of The Iron Chariots
The Intergalactic Alliance
Leninist Union
Lazarus
Oseria
TaiMil
Greater Ixnay
My Pants
The Atheist Empire
Alliance of Armed Nations
The Union of Communist States
The United Northern Countries
The Great Wonderland
Greater Mercateria
The Caldonian Union
The Truly Holy Roman Union
The North Pacific
Right to Life
Catholic Royal Alliance
Ixnay
Onnet
The Insane Region
Consitutional Union
Taijitu
New Brannack
The Place for Awesome Nations
The Second European Empire
Esportiva
Rushmore
Bettie Page vs Jayne Mansfield Catfight
Union of Confederate Regions
The One Army
10000 Islands
Deneclia
The Place For Awesome Nations
Geopolity
The Supreme Union
The Grey Wardens
Peoples Federation of Qandaristan
Werewolves of the Flame

Approvals: 1 (Egalitia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Plagiarism of UGR's dispatch, R3. Also R4.

EDIT: Is this also R2?
Last edited by Kaboomlandia on Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:38 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:55 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:Plagiarism of UGR's dispatch, R3. Also R4.

EDIT: Is this also R2?

I don't believe it is - the author added a paragraph explaining the event (though the paragraph contains illegal wording, as you pointed out).

The dispatch in question was edited 9 minutes ago, though.
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Postby Ebsotz » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:39 pm

Description: RECOGNIZING The Republican Nation of United German Regions as founder of The Insane Region and current delegate and liberator of The Black Riders

NOTING that The Black Riders had occupied several small, helpless, and defenseless regions before April 27, 2015 when The Republican Nation of United German Regions successfully invaded the Black Riders with the help of several nations from The BRU (Black Riders Unit) Agency, a coalition of several regions, after the founder, Black Riders Commander, was deleted for illegal script usage

OBSERVING that United German Regions is working on a new, democratic constitution for the region, formerly feared by many small regions

ADMIRING that, with the help of several other regions, The Black Riders, formerly one of the most feared regions in NationStates was finally taken down

RECOGNIZING that United German Regions created a WA nation, The Armed Republic of UnitedGermanRegions to serve as delegate in The Black Riders while maintaining a presence in The Insane Region, itself a smaller region of about 60 nations

NOTING that United German Regions has led several smaller raids against TBR-occupied regions and successfully liberated them

AFFIRMING that United German Regions has worked tirelessly for several months to liberate TBR-occupied regions before finally overcoming the greatest challenge of all: raiding the Black Riders, the greatest coup d’etat since the liberation of Lazarus last week

HEREBY commends The Republican Nation of United German Regions

Approvals: 68 (Imperial Eagle, El Fiji Grande, Tabcorp Park, UnitedGermanRegions, Nultsia, United Soviet Jason Republic, Morituram, Vodkaslavia, Goji Empire, Francaner, Aeternabilis, Hombertoland, Absurranian WA Mission, La Islas Canarias, Russian Fedration, Anatolia Remnants, Rottingheim, Hawkswind, The Grand Empire of Andor, The New India, The Jaclean empire, The Stalker, Faal Lot Himdah, Oakenfield, Aramythia, Unibot III, The 2nd French Empire, Darnana, Everestopia, Lucario Mewtwo and Zoroark, Glorious Days, Shermaniya II, Crystal Spires, Ghant, Thayn, Union of the Democrats, Guinea-Conakry, Beazlend, Dragonyza, Ancient Antarctica, Miceland, Ism, BMoss, Maril Island, North Campbell Nation, -Lunaria-, Collatis, Scouting, Inggison, Napania, Aedrinan, Borislavia, Fristat, Alternate Universe 912, Kolkatta, Pottermore Fan Forum, Translenia, Capitalizt Abidawe, Saint Kitten, Celebdyr, Omega Lands, Fralinia, Lockdownn, Arkaenov, Ten Cities, The Pacifican Islands, SovietSparta, Aeuria)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 24 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

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Uhh, Rule 4b?

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Postby Ramaeus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:42 pm

Where do you think the violation is?
Just some weeb.

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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:53 pm

Ebsotz wrote:-snip-

Hey there, there's already is a thread on this proposal. This thread's more for potential violations for proposals without threads. Please discuss any SC rule violations for this proposal in the thread
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:14 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: nohbdy_1430247441

Commend The Black Riders

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: The Black Riders

Proposed by: Nohbdy

Description: The World Assembly,

Hoping to preserve a record of what The Black Riders have accomplished throughout its history,

Noting that The Black Riders have received a Security Council Condemnation, and accepting its effects,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region can make actions worthy of condemnation and commendation at the same time,

Recognizing The Black Riders as one of the most well known military institutions in the world,

Noting The Black Riders’s policy of unbiased participation, allowing nations of almost any ideology or religion to participate in regional affairs, as long as they are respectful to others,

Lauding The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Applauding The Black Riders’s participation in the liberation of Nazi Europe from Fascist forces,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting to The Black Riders’s contribution to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE, Anarchy and The Mountains to the East,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tagging, occupations, and refounds,

Appalled that The Black Riders’s region is constantly bombarded by insults and slander,

Impressed by the fact that, despite the previously mentioned insults, The Black Riders has instituted a strict policy of not seeking revenge, and that the residents of The Black Riders always provide polite, if blunt, responses,

Asserting that The Black Riders unite nations and regions of all kinds through the actions that they take,

Citing the clear increase in activity in regions that have been tagged by The Black Riders, and the many friendships formed through discussion of them,

Interjecting that Defender regions have been commended for their organization and success, despite that fact that The Black Riders has just as much, if not more, organization and success than them,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “Defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Pointing out that many Defender regions have been commended for their actions, yet they have failed to stop, or even significantly slow down The Black Riders, showing this council’s corrupt bias against institutions like The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, regional politics and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 92 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

Plagiarism of NSA's draft.
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:17 pm

And just how precisely do you know that is not NSA's puppet? Are you a mod now? If not quit assuming shit, as it has now gone way past annoying.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:18 pm

Um, seeing that the author was founded yesterday makes me suspicious?
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:22 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:Um, seeing that the author was founded yesterday makes me suspicious?


So it is totally improbable for someone to found a puppet to submit a proposal? Have you bothered asking NSA before you just decided to accuse someone of plagiarism? I thought not.
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:25 pm

I've looked into it; this case doesn't appear to be plagiarism.

Jean Pierre Trudeau - we'd prefer players to err on the side of reporting suspected plagiarism if in doubt, as it's a serious offence. Better to have taken up a minute or so of a mod's time than have a plagiarised proposal get to vote and waste four days of everyone's time.

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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:27 pm

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Um, seeing that the author was founded yesterday makes me suspicious?


So it is totally improbable for someone to found a puppet to submit a proposal? Have you bothered asking NSA before you just decided to accuse someone of plagiarism? I thought not.

Plus in NSA's short time in the NSverse they have become a notorious TBR puppet, very likely that he would have to use puppets to get proposals passed, especially since TBR just fell.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:29 pm

Sedgistan wrote:I've looked into it; this case doesn't appear to be plagiarism.

Jean Pierre Trudeau - we'd prefer players to err on the side of reporting suspected plagiarism if in doubt, as it's a serious offence. Better to have taken up a minute or so of a mod's time than have a plagiarised proposal get to vote and waste four days of everyone's time.

Ah, I see. Thank you anyways.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:54 pm

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
So it is totally improbable for someone to found a puppet to submit a proposal? Have you bothered asking NSA before you just decided to accuse someone of plagiarism? I thought not.

Plus in NSA's short time in the NSverse they have become a notorious TBR puppet, very likely that he would have to use puppets to get proposals passed, especially since TBR just fell.

I've posted in the rmb in DEN, multiple times, clarifying that I am Nohbdy. I am not trying to trick people, I'm trying to get my new nation's name out there, that is my reasoning for using that nation.

Oh right, no, there is no plagarism, sorry for the confusion.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:20 pm

Out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen something get dinged for R1?
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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Postby Ebsotz » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:12 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
Ebsotz wrote:-snip-

Hey there, there's already is a thread on this proposal. This thread's more for potential violations for proposals without threads. Please discuss any SC rule violations for this proposal in the thread

Oh oops, didn't now there was a thread for that.

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