Illegal SC proposals - post them here

[Lower Columbian WA Mission]

Condemn Wallenburg
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Wallenburg | Proposed by: Tab1of2

Description: Appalled That the ambassador of Wallenburg attacked an unarmed Bitely Ambassador. Well at the WA strangers Bar.

Noting that such actions go against the WA’s goals of Peace.

Shocked that a WA ambassador would act in a way that would tarnish the WA's good name

Hereby, the WA condemns Wallenburg

Well, look who's back - and up to his old tricks, if I'm not mistaken. Any bets that the proposal author is yet another Bitely puppet?

The best rule violation I can come up with is 2(c), but even I have to admit it's not that clear a violation. A rule 4(c) violation (for the Strangers' Bar mention) might be a bit better.

[Tab1of2]

Condemn Wallenburg
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Wallenburg | Proposed by: Tab1of2

Description: Appalled That the ambassador of Wallenburg attacked an unarmed Bitely Ambassador. Well at the WA strangers Bar.

Noting that such actions go against the WA’s goals of Peace.

Shocked that a WA ambassador would act in a way that would tarnish the WA's good name

Hereby, the WA condemns Wallenburg

Well, look who's back - and up to his old tricks, if I'm not mistaken. Any bets that the proposal author is yet another Bitely puppet?

The best rule violation I can come up with is 2(c), but even I have to admit it's not that clear a violation. A rule 4(c) violation (for the Strangers' Bar mention) might be a bit better.

I'm not sure that this violates rule 4(c). perhaps a mod could rule on it?

Just because I'm shocked and dismayed at the action's of wallenburg's ambassador you say I'm bitely's puppet? https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=58&start=8625

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

Condemn Wallenburg
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Wallenburg | Proposed by: Tab1of2

Description: Appalled That the ambassador of Wallenburg attacked an unarmed Bitely Ambassador. Well at the WA strangers Bar.

Noting that such actions go against the WA’s goals of Peace.

Shocked that a WA ambassador would act in a way that would tarnish the WA's good name

Hereby, the WA condemns Wallenburg

Well, look who's back - and up to his old tricks, if I'm not mistaken. Any bets that the proposal author is yet another Bitely puppet?

The best rule violation I can come up with is 2(c), but even I have to admit it's not that clear a violation. A rule 4(c) violation (for the Strangers' Bar mention) might be a bit better.

I'm not sure that this violates rule 4(c). perhaps a mod could rule on it?

Just because I'm shocked and dismayed at the action's of wallenburg's ambassador you say I'm bitely's puppet? https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=58&start=8625

"I bet that Bitely Ambassador intentionally provoked and flamed Wallenburg so he had an excuse to have Wallenburg condemned. I'm shocked Bitely isn't gone yet - he's a grave danger to world democracy and harmony. CONDEMN BITELY!!! Don't fall for this fraud of his, Ladies and Gentlemen!! Opposed!

Also, I bet you didn't even put this proposal up for discussion in the Security Council forum before you submitted it, proving my suspicions that you are an undemocratic puppet of Bitely's because he did the exact same thing in violation of democratic principles of discussion! I say boycott this!"
- Tim Zimmermann, WA Resolution Office of the Ministry of International Relations and Foreign Affairs, Republic of Brandenbourg-Anhalt.

[Wrapper]

CONDEMN BITELY!!! Don't fall for this fraud of his, Ladies and Gentlemen!! Opposed!

This thread is for posting illegal proposals. If you want to discuss it, post a thread on it.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Commend The Flare Police Confederacy

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: The Flare Police Confederacy

Proposed by: Shazamland

Description: This will hereby recognize the truly benevolent goals that are strived for by The Flare Police and approves of their gracious actions

No operative clause.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: mensen2_1443459425

Repeal "Condemn The Black Hawks"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#52

Proposed by: Mensen2

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #52: Condemn The Black Hawks shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: ---Yes, The Black Hawks have done raiding and will always will, but if you haven't been through [The Black Hawks] training program on how to raid then you don't know how we work. You see we raid but only with class. We raid but we don't go there start up a cussing war or get into a fight we don't call out on them by calling them stuipid because we invaded them no we were trained to raid with class. There are many things that we have also lost in this one is our freedom to attack which you passed that said reigions could raid each other. We are an organization that takes pride in what we do but we are no salvages or guns and glory raiding spree people we pick and choose who we attack and if you are raided, well tuff s*** deal with it. Yeah you were invaded you should hire some group to assist you in your defence.
--- Secondly when do people care if we attack if regional attacking was banned or we are condemned for it then whats the point of doing this game? Raiding is a part of life get used to it heck someone is likely getting raided right now maybe by us or by someone else but they will get over it.
---The point I'm trying to get to is that people in this game raid its a part of life here but you know they can suck it up and get used to it. We are a class acting region we don't do anything that is breaking the laws and we try hard to raid by the book so that raiding is still a allowed in this game people like to raid, but they don't like to be raided so whats they conplain to the security council to condemn us but we raid just like any other region would.
---So I ask you humbly to take away this condemn from us and restore our rights to invade Thank you.

R3 and R4.

Edit: and probably R2 as well.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Condemn Poops and Giggles

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Poops and Giggles

Proposed by: Deez Walnuts

Description: This country has been repeatedly putting inappropriate object names in its country. It has only changed when threatened to be banned. Inappropriate behavior should not be tolerated.

No operative clause.

[Herby]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: lucar_1443561415

Repeal "Commend The Cat-Tribe"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#46

Proposed by: Lucar

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #46: Commend The Cat-Tribe shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Description: That Security Council Resolution #46, Commend the cat-tribe is repealed.

Noting: Because the region no longer exists, it defeats the purpose of commendations, by keeping this one in effect.

Hereby: Repeals Security Council Resolution #46

Not quite sure this is illegal per se, but The Cat-Tribe was a nation, not a region.

[Kaboomlandia]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: foompy_1443647002

Commend Foompy

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Foompy

Proposed by: Foompy

Description: Commend Foompy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Approvals: 3 (Foompy, Vancouvia, Ramaeus)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 73 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Ugh. Foompy again. R3.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Commend Lethen

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Lethen

Proposed by: Great United Kingdom of Wiland

Description: The Security Council;

Recognizing the role of this esteemed assembly in enshrining nations of infamy and exceptional contribution alike in the annals of the World Assembly archives.

Observing that Lethen has contributed much to his home region of Europeia, and has been bestowed as a Supreme Chancellor along with HEM, the founder of Europeia.

Cognizant of the considerable effort Lethen has given to NationStates as well as Europeia, consistently as a force for good.

Additionally noting that the nation of Lethen has also directly assisted many nations in goals and pursuits, especially in Europeia, where Lethen has done too much to fit all of his accomplishments in this proposal.

Also noting that beyond the willingness to assist nations from all systems of life, that Lethen has authored several bills for the benefit of nations in Europeia and his force can be found very easily through the universe at large.

Hereby;
Commends Lethen

R4b

[True Refuge]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: tab1of2_1443859491

Condemn The World Assembly

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The World Assembly

Proposed by: Tab1of2

Description:

APPLAUDING the founders of the World Assembly for their vision of a peaceful and brighter tomorrow;

ACKNOWLEDGING That the World Assembly has made great strives to see through this vision;

NOTING that the World Assembly has become full of animosity, frivolity, and hostile debate;

REALIZING that the World Assembly has a habit of constantly repealing recently passed legislation;

HOPING that the World Assembly will get its act together and rise against the elitism that plagues it;

DISMAYED that we have let the World Assembly's useless folly continue for too long;

We the nations of the World Assembly hereby
CONDEMN the World Assembly.

Approvals: 5 (Asturan, Emjietopia, Worst nation ever 2, The Capitalist Consortium, The Fatheland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 72 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

"We the nations of etc." could be a R4. Not too experienced with illegal/silly SC proposals yet.

The World Assembly that is nominated is a 2 nation region, and the proposal clearly isn't talking about it.

Plus... it's silly The WA condemning itself is ridiculous.

P.S Bitely did a mass-telegram for approvals. Probably a waste of stamps.

[Ambassador]

The World Assembly that is nominated is a 2 nation region, and the proposal clearly isn't talking about it.

Especially that bit about me being peaceful and wanting a brighter tomorrow. Boo peace!

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

"We the nations of etc." could be a R4. Not too experienced with illegal/silly SC proposals yet.

The World Assembly that is nominated is a 2 nation region, and the proposal clearly isn't talking about it.

Plus... it's silly The WA condemning itself is ridiculous.

P.S Bitely did a mass-telegram for approvals. Probably a waste of stamps.

If he is targeting the WA as an organisation then it is an R4 violation:

4. Your proposal must read as representing the opinion of the World Assembly, and as targeting a Nation or Region.

[Herby]

This is an interesting one. I hate to say it but I don't see anything illegal about this. Taken literally it can read like it's condemning the region, so no R4 violation. Also unlike the GA there's no rule about factual errors in SC proposals. I'll file a GHR to try to get a ruling.

In the meantime if you folks want to discuss the merits of the proposal (e.g. "It's silly"), you should create a new topic. Don't use this one.

[Sedgistan]

This is an interesting one. I hate to say it but I don't see anything illegal about this. Taken literally it can read like it's condemning the region, so no R4 violation. Also unlike the GA there's no rule about factual errors in SC proposals. I'll file a GHR to try to get a ruling.

In the meantime if you folks want to discuss the merits of the proposal (e.g. "It's silly"), you should create a new topic. Don't use this one.

(On holiday at the moment, hence the lack of posts here). I can confirm that I've given a ruling in response to Herby's GHR that the proposal could be read as targeting the region. There's some more in-depth info on "symbolic proposals" here: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 8#symbolic

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: pandorlonia_1444050618

Liberate The Flare Police Confederacy

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.



Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): The Flare Police Confederacy

Proposed by: Pandorlonia


Description: - Notice the new regions.

- Support the creation of these regions.

- Encourage the creation of new, independent regions.

R3

[We Are Not the NSA]

Condemn Donald Trumptopia

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Donald Trumptopia

Proposed by: Genkark

Description: RECOGNIZING that Donald Trumptopia's leader, Donald Trump, has violated many of the core beliefs of this assembly and this world

REALIZING that Donald Trump is a terrible person and terrible candidate for president of the United States of America and should be punished for his stupid hair and his stupid arrogance

SENDING the message to the whole world that this assembly does not support his actions and will condemn him for his terrible deeds that he has thought of and executed over his long and very boring, stupid, disgusting life

HOPING that the nations and their people recognize his lack of ideas, heart, soul and mind and turn their backs on him

MAKING it more difficult for Donald Trump to garner support from the more absent minded nations in this world so that he will fail to win the election and end up rather embarrassed for his failure to accomplish one notable thing in his long and sad life

HOPING that the world comes to its senses and votes for a better person

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY HEREBY CONDEMNS DONALD TRUMP

Real life reference. Nation doesn't have a leader, and if that does not count, The United States definitely does. Other R4 violations throughout.

Also, in case this guy found some sort of loophole in R4, then R3. There is no operative clause ("CONDEMNS DONALD TRUMP", Donald Trump is not the nation's name.)

[Misley]

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1444099680

Liberate the Greater German Reich

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): the Greater German Reich

Proposed by: TheGerman Empire

Description: We need to liberate The Greater German Reich, to its former members.. The communist take over was swift and demeaning, all who appose the red devils.. Help us take back what was once ours..

Approvals: 2 (Seditia, Vancouvia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 76 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

R3.

[Herby]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: neversurrender_1444160736

Liberate World

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.

Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): World

Proposed by: Neversurrender

Description: i propose in the name of my nation to liberate ourselves from mental slavery.
Why?
no one else but ourselves can free our minds.
have no fear for atomic energy,
there are far worse things concocted by military in penta-, hepta-, septa-, octa- and so for gones.

so support the motion and liberate us

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 78 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

More symbolic condemn-a-dead-region tripe. At least this one's illegal (3, 4d).

[Herby]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: varichia_1444159890

Condemn Jesus Warriors

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Jesus Warriors

Proposed by: Varichia

Description: Noting Jesus Warriors harrasment of non-Christian nations and regions,

Appaled theat Jesus Warriors would frequently try to infiltrate non-Christian regions,

Realising Jesus Warriors should not be permitted to spread such repigious hate

Hereby condemn Jesus Warriors.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 78 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

Looks like a 2c violation to me (check the RMB post).

[Sedgistan]

They're flooding in at the moment. Culled both.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Commend Latamer

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Latamer

Proposed by: Latamer

Description: Latamer is a fine nation that has been ruling Latamer peacefully for a long time, and we have fended off invasions. Our allmighty Latamer is our best. Go Latamer! Forever will he live!

R3

[Herby]

Commend Latamer

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Latamer

Proposed by: Latamer

Description: Latamer is a fine nation that has been ruling Latamer peacefully for a long time, and we have fended off invasions. Our allmighty Latamer is our best. Go Latamer! Forever will he live!

R3

...also R4b (will "he" live) and R4d.

[WACP]

Commend WACP

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: WACP


Proposed by: Du Mont

Description: We the people, represented by our Emperors, Kings, Sheikhs, Shahs, Sovereign Princes, Dukes, Grandees etc. do hereby wish to commend:

The Republic of WACP.

For the excellent Political Freedoms that they have created in their nation. It creates an excellent example for other nations to follow. They have made an outstanding contribution to the world.

Huzzah WACP Huzzah!!

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 78 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

What?

[Sedgistan]

An understandable reaction, but what part of it do you think is illegal?