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Postby DWAsnia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:35 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
DWAsnia wrote:-snip-

And which rule do you believe that proposal violates?

4d. Not sure if its a rule in SC, but it's bloggish/not formatted. etc. etc.
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Postby Ramaeus » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:43 pm

DWAsnia wrote:4d. Not sure if its a rule in SC, but it's bloggish/not formatted. etc. etc.

There isn't a rule against poorly formatted and poorly written but otherwise legal proposals. Moreover, a quick skim of the proposal in question doesn't reveal anything illegal.

And Rule 4d states that proposals must be written from the perspective of the World Assembly. This one, despite its poorly written and poorly formatted form, does indeed appear to be written from the perspective of the WA.
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Postby Percussionland » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:27 am

Commend Greater Regional Alliance is a waste of the Security Council's time, and must be removed from the floor.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:04 am

Percussionland wrote:Commend Greater Regional Alliance is a waste of the Security Council's time, and must be removed from the floor.

I don't see anything illegal in it. I agree with Ramaeus, it doesn't violate 4d.
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Postby Redsward » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:39 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Percussionland wrote:Commend Greater Regional Alliance is a waste of the Security Council's time, and must be removed from the floor.

I don't see anything illegal in it. I agree with Ramaeus, it doesn't violate 4d.

Well, it's not illegal, but wasn't Brunerist Delegate from that region? Basicalky was he trying to commend his own region? :?:
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:35 am

Redsward wrote:
Wrapper wrote:I don't see anything illegal in it. I agree with Ramaeus, it doesn't violate 4d.

Well, it's not illegal, but wasn't Brunerist Delegate from that region? Basicalky was he trying to commend his own region? :?:

That's irrelevant.
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Postby Redsward » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:29 pm

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1411936633

Could this be considered illegal? It's commending someone for IC forum posts.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:44 pm

Redsward wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=stuzemstazem_1411936633

Could this be considered illegal? It's commending someone for IC forum posts.

Nope, that's been done before.

HOWEVER, it is illegal because you're not allowed to link to the forum in WA proposals.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:45 pm

Redsward wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=stuzemstazem_1411936633

Could this be considered illegal? It's commending someone for IC forum posts.

For the sake of preserving this turd for ridicule,
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: stuzemstazem_1411936633
Commend Lipnitia

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Lipnitia


Proposed by: Stuzemstazem

Description: This proposal would commend Lipnita for its hard work in combating terrorists who bombed their nuclear reactors.

As seen here:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=313837

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:13 pm

The Leningrad Union wrote:
Redsward wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=stuzemstazem_1411936633

Could this be considered illegal? It's commending someone for IC forum posts.

Nope, that's been done before.

HOWEVER, it is illegal because you're not allowed to link to the forum in WA proposals.

It also lacks an operative clause.
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Postby District XIV » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:01 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: franklin_and_jefferson_1412031640

Condemn Community of free peoples
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Community of free peoples

Proposed by: Franklin And Jefferson

Description: I hereby Condemn The Community Of Free Peoples For the following reasons below:

Godmoddding on RMB' s and Wars such as The CFP civil War.

Aggression is Highly unstable With him in Wars and Conversations.

Treason for raiding His own Region,United Sovereign Republics Of Acuder.

Puppet Raiding by using the "Blue Raiders" to Raid United Sovereign Republics Of Acuder, which is His PUPPETS.

Breaking Rules and Suppressing Free Speech for telling people to shut up and crude actions when they free speech as well as going against his on laws he made on Factbook.

Deleting Polls was one of his worst as he deleted polls which if he did not win,Specifically on Elections and such.

I hereby Condemn the Community Of Free Peoples For the following reasons above.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 66 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

The Yes of District XIV has not approved this proposal.

Branding, not from the SC's viewpoint.
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:29 pm

Branding is a GA-only rule, btw. See: viewtopic.php?p=3755848#branding

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Postby District XIV » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:30 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Branding is a GA-only rule, btw. See: viewtopic.php?p=3755848#branding

Oh, I see. Understood then.

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Postby Redsward » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:32 pm

Click me!
How about this? Brahmins is trying to commend someone in his own region.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:35 pm

Redsward wrote:Click me!
How about this? Brahmins is trying to commend someone in his own region.

That's not illegal.

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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:42 pm

Redsward wrote:Click me!
How about this? Brahmins is trying to commend someone in his own region.

It's legal and in fact it happens a lot
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:13 pm

Redsward wrote:Click me!
How about this? Brahmins is trying to commend someone in his own region.

For crying out loud...

If anyone wants to try and pick out any illegalities, here's the proposal before it disappears:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: brahmins_1412049579
Commend Enduvas

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Enduvas


Proposed by: Brahmins

Description: Acknowledges the wonderful work done by The United Socialist States of Enduvas in promoting peace, harmony and democracy in the region of New Okatama.
Admires the sacrifice made by The United Socialist States of Enduvas during the transition from the Okatama to New Okatama region.
Praises the leadership shown by The United Socialist States of Enduvas in the region of New Okatama.
Recognizes the fact The United Socialist States of Enduvas is not jealous of getting the top post in the region of New Okatama.
Appreciates the fact that The United Socialist States of Enduvas has always been there to help the nations of New Okatama in times of need.
Hereby COMMENDS the The United Socialist States of Enduvas for its work

Approvals: 19 (Chester Pearson, Eisheth Zenunim, The Dolphin Isles, Russcotia, Kep, Queen Isuba, Brunerist Delegate, Suceavija, Demongate, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Shadoke III, Festavo Forever 14, Nava Siam, Dragon Scales, Vashtanaraada, Sundred, Atealia, Sacarap, Franklin And Jefferson)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 46 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 4 hours
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Postby Sacarap » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:22 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amboyscoutia_1412126317

Stabilization of Leadership
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Amboyscoutia

Description: RECOGNIZING that there are/may be many unstable governments in the WA.

SUGGESTING that there be a system of removing those governments from the WA.

CALLS UPON the regional delegates to come together to develop a solution.

SUGGESTS that the WA delegates formulate a game change request to allow removal of WA member proposals.

THANKS the members of WA for approving/voting on this proposal.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours


I really don't think they can do this... And they can't change game mechanics...
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Postby DWAsnia » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:25 pm

Sacarap wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amboyscoutia_1412126317

Stabilization of Leadership
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Amboyscoutia

Description: RECOGNIZING that there are/may be many unstable governments in the WA.

SUGGESTING that there be a system of removing those governments from the WA.

CALLS UPON the regional delegates to come together to develop a solution.

SUGGESTS that the WA delegates formulate a game change request to allow removal of WA member proposals.

THANKS the members of WA for approving/voting on this proposal.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours


I really don't think they can do this... And they can't change game mechanics...

Wrong forum. Should be in the GA equivalent.
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Postby District XIV » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:56 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: free_lyberta_1412308500

Commend Commonwealth of Liberty
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Commonwealth of Liberty

Proposed by: Free Lyberta

Description: RECOGNIZING: Commonwealth of Liberty's success in creating knowledgeable role-players, and active members of NationStates.

ACKNOWLEDGING: The extensive guides and fact-books by the Commonwealth of Liberty's active members.

PRAISING: The Republic of Libertyworks for their dedication in making the Commonwealth of Liberty a fun, exciting, and safe place for all sorts of Role-Players.

FURTHER PRAISING: The Commonwealth of Liberty's active members, and the time they have put into making the region a wonderful sanctuary for smart Role-Players.

HEREBY COMMENDS: Commonwealth of Liberty for it's service to the NationStates community

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

The Haerdkoer of District XIV has not approved this proposal.

Mentioning "roleplay" in a proposal is illegal, so I'm assuming "role[ ]player" is illegal too.

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Postby Chester Pearson » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:36 pm

District XIV wrote:
Mentioning "roleplay" in a proposal is illegal, so I'm assuming "role[ ]player" is illegal too.


Since when?

What should be illegal is attempting to commend your own region, but I digress....
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Postby District XIV » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:37 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
District XIV wrote:
Mentioning "roleplay" in a proposal is illegal, so I'm assuming "role[ ]player" is illegal too.


Since when?

What should be illegal is attempting to commend your own region, but I digress....

Since when the very, very first submitting of Liberate Panem and it was deleted for using the word "roleplay"...

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:59 am

Chester Pearson wrote:
District XIV wrote:
Mentioning "roleplay" in a proposal is illegal, so I'm assuming "role[ ]player" is illegal too.


Since when?

What should be illegal is attempting to commend your own region, but I digress....

I believe it falls under Rule 4c, but TBH the SC rules aren't my specialty.

District XIV wrote:
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Is singling out a specific country allowed when you're commending the region as a whole?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:59 pm

Graknopia wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=hashtagswiggityswag_1412538102

rule 4

Is it really that fucking hard to do this?

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[box]SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: hashtagswiggityswag_1412538102
Repeal "Condemn Great Nepal"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.
 

Category: Repeal
   

Resolution: SC#24
   

Proposed by: HashtagSwiggitySwag

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #24: Condemn Great Nepal shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The Security Council,

REMAINING appalled at the previous actions of The United Kingdom of Great Nepal;

ACCEPTING that these actions went against any type of moral decency;

ADMITTING that at the time of the condemnation, the resolution was appropriate;

REAFFIRMING the Security Council's motto of "Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary";

However,

QUOTING NationStates Founder Max Berry as saying, "You create your own country...and care for its people. Either that or you deliberately torture them. It's really up to you.";

BELIEVING that this represents the fact that The United Kingdom of Great Nepal has the personal right to treat the citizens of their country as they please;

ACKNOWLEDGING that condemnations do very little to deter less-than-permissible activity;

HOPEFUL at the branding of The United Kingdom of Great Nepal's civil rights as "Average", rather than "rare";

HEREBY repeals SC Resolution #116: Condemn Great Nepal.

Approvals: 8 (HashtagSwiggitySwag, Brunerist Delegate, Chester Pearson, Xolox, South Pacific Republic, Light-Keepers, Crisisies, Nova Doria)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 56 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days [/box]
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