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Postby De Dreamland » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:31 am

Why are there 4 "Repeal Liberate the NSIA" in at the same time?
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:34 am

Lotta folks didn't like it?
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:36 am

De Dreamland wrote:Why are there 4 "Repeal Liberate the NSIA" in at the same time?

Because four different authors decided they would like to try to repeal it. There's no rule against multiple, simultaneous attempts at a common resolution - as long as they're legal they're fine.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:45 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: stahlintown_1477253587

Liberate The NSIA

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): The NSIA

Proposed by: Stahlintown

Description: Free the NSIA from the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism, who have recently taken control of the area, The NSIA have the right to express their own beliefs so we should let them do as they see fit.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 93 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: stahlintown_1477253747

Repeal "Liberate The NSIA"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#207

Proposed by: Stahlintown

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #207: Liberate The NSIA shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The NSIA and The "Nazi's" are permitted to their own beliefs and customs, they should not be bullied into something they are not.

The first one is a mistake, but also R3. The second is R2(d) and R3.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Leppikania » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:38 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: momoscoots_1477260369

Condemn The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

Proposed by: MoMoScoots

Description: AWARE Of the Failure of the Previous Attempt to Condemn the Invaders;

ATTEMPTING To create a compromise between the two voting parties;

SUGGESTING That the Invaders are a Minor Threat;

RECOGNIZING That many Support the Invaders;

The United Nations of ScootsMoMo moves to Split the Invaders into Two Regions/ Factions.

Approvals: 2 (Aisciai, Notota)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

R3 all the way.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:43 pm

Leppikania wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: momoscoots_1477260369

Condemn The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

Proposed by: MoMoScoots

Description: AWARE Of the Failure of the Previous Attempt to Condemn the Invaders;

ATTEMPTING To create a compromise between the two voting parties;

SUGGESTING That the Invaders are a Minor Threat;

RECOGNIZING That many Support the Invaders;

The United Nations of ScootsMoMo moves to Split the Invaders into Two Regions/ Factions.

Approvals: 2 (Aisciai, Notota)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

R3 all the way.

Not only does that break Rule 3 in about 4 different ways, it doesn't even make sense as a solution.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:45 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Leppikania wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: momoscoots_1477260369

Condemn The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

Proposed by: MoMoScoots

Description: AWARE Of the Failure of the Previous Attempt to Condemn the Invaders;

ATTEMPTING To create a compromise between the two voting parties;

SUGGESTING That the Invaders are a Minor Threat;

RECOGNIZING That many Support the Invaders;

The United Nations of ScootsMoMo moves to Split the Invaders into Two Regions/ Factions.

Approvals: 2 (Aisciai, Notota)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

R3 all the way.

Not only does that break Rule 3 in about 4 different ways, it doesn't even make sense as a solution.

Did they just attempt to condemn their own region? :blink:
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:50 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Not only does that break Rule 3 in about 4 different ways, it doesn't even make sense as a solution.

Did they just attempt to condemn their own region? :blink:

Yes, but I was referring to their proposed idea of splitting The Invaders into two different regions. Why would we do that? It would be a hassle to actually do, and the two new regions would just work together as a single region anyways.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:18 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: momoscoots_1477490320

Commend The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: The United Nations of ScootsMoMo

Proposed by: MoMoScoots


Description: Commend Maxtopia

ACKNOWLEDGING That Maxtopia created the World Assembly

RECOGNIZING That the WA is a GOOD organization and allows civilized discussion between Every member nation

PROPOSING That Maxtopia be commended.

R3 - subject of the proposal (ScotsMoMo) and the subject of the active clause (Maxtopia) do not match.

R1 violation as well - creation of the WA?
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:36 am

Yep, that's a rare Rule 1 violation.

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Postby Thorn1000 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:25 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1477504578
Please Vote this up so that it can become a Resolution so that we together can live peacefully!


R4c i think...


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Postby Crazy girl » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:29 am

A rule 3 and 4 violation :)

For educational purposes, here is the text of the proposal:

Condemn Keplar 22b

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Keplar 22b

Proposed by: Muerainia

Description: Description: The Following is a example of a region that follows the practice of Raiding:

The Founder (The Armed Republic of King scorm) of Keplar 22b has stated in its RMB and in Personal TG's that their ultimate goal is to send people out to join other regions so that they can become an office member with enough power to kick the leader and take control of said region.
How is this fair? Yes this is just a game but their are some people who play this nonstop or put time into their Nation or Region so it would be wrong and unfair to them.

Reason's why this is unacceptable

1. It's Unfair to regions who want peace.

2. It disrupts the region that has been raided and could destroy the hard work that the region has done.

3. Its a bad example to teach others to raid and destroy.

Please Vote this up so that it can become a Resolution so that we together can live peacefully!

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:42 pm

Condemn HYDRA Command

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: HYDRA Command

Proposed by: The Constitutional Republic of Zion

Description: HYDRA command, a paramilitary raiding region based off the terrorist group of the MARVEL universe,

having raided and taken over several regions, with plans to conquer Belgium, one of weakest regions in need of WA protection,

Is hereby condemned as a terrorist region and the WA expresses shock and dismay at the state of their organization


R4a
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:01 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: gernow_1477550745

Condemn Mousebumples

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Mousebumples

Proposed by: Gernow

Description: I put it to the chamber of my most esteemed colleagues that the WA condemn Europeian delegate The Always 100% Accurate and Trustworthy Except When You're Refusing to Share Your Cheese (Seriously, How Selfish Are You?) of Mousebumples.
As a Europeian citizen I was shocked when I received my "Welcome to the WA" telegram from him I was immediately pressured to vote for him. This is Undemocratic and shouold be STOPPED


R3, R4(b), R4(d).
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:40 am

Liberate Europia

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Europia

Proposed by: People of mexico

Description: We should start a war against the invaders because if we do win the war, we could get the land and give it to europia


R3. Almost an R4d violation too, but it's not quite explicit enough to count. :\
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:51 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: dund3e_1477776513

Condemn The Invaders

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Invaders

Proposed by: Dund3e

Description: THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

Dismayed that The Invaders have carried out massive acts of destruction on unsuspecting and innocent communities for far too long without sanctions,

Noting that Singapore is a flourishing thirteen-year-old region, with its cultural vibrance derived from its prominent allies such as The Rejected Realms and Lazarus,

Appalled that The Invaders are in the process of ensuring the destruction of Singapore through the banishing of many well-meaning natives,

Horrified at the high possibility that The Invaders will institute strict border control policies to prevent entry into this thriving community,

Shocked at the destructive actions The Invaders have wrought upon Singapore amidst an impending apocalypse,

The Security Council hereby liberates Singapore.

R3 - the proposal is a Condemn, while the active clause is a Liberation.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:51 pm

Ninja'd
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:54 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Ninja'd

Makes a change. :)
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:56 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Ninja'd

Makes a change. :)

I stopped to inspect the author for a minute. :P
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:34 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: dund3e_1477776707

Liberate Singapore

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Singapore

Proposed by: Dund3e

Description: THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

Dismayed that The Invaders have carried out massive acts of destruction on unsuspecting and innocent communities for far too long without sanctions,

Noting that Singapore is a flourishing thirteen-year-old region, with its cultural vibrance derived from its prominent allies such as The Rejected Realms and Lazarus,

Appalled that The Invaders are in the process of ensuring the destruction of Singapore through the banishing of many well-meaning natives,

Horrified at the high possibility that The Invaders will institute strict border control policies to prevent entry into this thriving community,

Shocked at the destructive actions The Invaders have wrought upon Singapore amidst an impending apocalypse,

The Security Council hereby liberates Singapore.


Description: THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

Recognising Social Liberal Union as a flourishing region of nearly six years, home to over one hundred native nations,

Appalled that The Invader Network of The Invaders, The Communist Bloc, The Kingdom of Great Britain, and USSD, along with their friends from The West Pacific and Exodus, has broken the peace by executing a massive invasion on this well-meaning community,

Impressed, despite the dire situation in Social Liberal Union, that Marshal T E Lawrence of The Invaders, in cohorts with other elite raiders, was able to conduct this seemingly-impossible invasion,

Determined to end The Invaders’ reign of terror on Social Liberal Union, which includes the banishings of many natives of the community,

Establishing that the possibility of the institution of strict border control policies is high, given the fact that Operation Golden Gate was a stealth operation stemming back months ago,

Realising that without outside intervention that this invasion will see the end to the thriving community life of SLU; the Security Council hereby liberates Social Liberal Union.

While not exactly plagiarism, this is SC proposals to a template with just enough variation to try and get around R2(a).

However I think there is enough similarity between the clauses highlighted to say that Liberate Singapore is not an original piece of work and should be discarded under R2(a).
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:47 pm

It's made use of three short phrases, which I don't think quite amounts to actionable plagiarism.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:03 pm

Sedgistan wrote:It's made use of three short phrases, which I don't think quite amounts to actionable plagiarism.

Fair enough Sedge, but personally I think they're tap dancing on the line with it.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:56 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: the_north_american_contident_1477849616

Repeal "Liberate belgium"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#4

Proposed by: The North American Contident

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #4: Liberate belgium shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I demand a repeal because we need to expand opportunities for new regions to come into NationStates without being too crowded in the game. Leaving this region open would just lead to the collapse of it anyways.

I propose we make a resolution that eliminate the region belgium to make way for a new region called the United Atlantic Powers.


R2(d), R3 and R4(d).
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:47 pm

Condemn Oom-Oom

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Oom-Oom

Proposed by: Moo-Moo

Description: Starting, a couple months ago, the Communist Dictatorship of Oom-Oom would seize our ships for trade that would travel near their country, steal the supplies, and send the crew to labor camps. We have tried to improve our relationship with them to trade with them, but they wouldn't accept. This issue raises the already bad tensions between Oom-Oom and us that we are on the brink of war. If the Security Council can't help us with this issue we will be forced to declare war on Oom-Oom.


R3 and R4d.
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Postby Tretrid » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:07 pm

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Condemn Oom-Oom

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Oom-Oom

Proposed by: Moo-Moo

Description: Starting, a couple months ago, the Communist Dictatorship of Oom-Oom would seize our ships for trade that would travel near their country, steal the supplies, and send the crew to labor camps. We have tried to improve our relationship with them to trade with them, but they wouldn't accept. This issue raises the already bad tensions between Oom-Oom and us that we are on the brink of war. If the Security Council can't help us with this issue we will be forced to declare war on Oom-Oom.

Approvals: 1 (Notota)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 94 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 23 hours

R4d, R3
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