[DRAFT] Repeal SC#56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich"

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

Absolutely not. Nazis - authentic or otherwise - should be condemned, if not for their many, many raiding trophies they refuse to give up, then for the racist collectivist garbage I see spewing on their RMB 24/7.

Really? Have you guys been condemned for your many raiding trophies? How about the capitalist bullshit you spew everywhere? Have you been condemned for that? If you can't form a cogent argument, please don't bother posting, as it just clutters up the debate.

[Nodin]

But none of this really has anything to do with the resolution at hand, so please try to at least stay on topic.

Only time I drifted off-topic was to answer the juvenile outbursts of a largely incoherent kid with a bad haircut who is unable to differentiate between humor and inanity, thinks NS is the real world and wants to become physically intimate with me.

Communist Beach was designated Hippiedom's Sister region prior to me taking up a leadership role in Hippiedom. When I became the leader of Hippiedom, it didn't suddenly also make me leader of CB.

You’re nit-picking. You gave CB and Trav Khar sister status in Hippy Haven—a region created by you. Try as you might to distance yourself from a leadership position in CB, you were the recognized leader and acted in that capacity during the entire time GGR and NE were sleeping in CB. Whose deleted posts are those on refounded CB’s RMB?

I’m totally on-topic by revealing that GGR booted you out of Communist Beach and destroyed that historically significant communist region less than two months before you cooked up this Repeal. It blows a couple of your arguments out of the water:

Also aware that The Greater German Reich has been fading into obscurity since the fall of Nazi Europe and Right Wing Uprising

Confident since The Greater German Reich has faded into obscurity, the threat they pose to the international community has significantly diminished

Communist Beach was protected by a password that had been applied by a CB native WAD. GGR used a founderless region’s best defense against an invasion to destroy it.

Exposing your true agenda is entirely on-topic. Retaliation against Nazis on your part and continuing a campaign against whatever, whoever JPT/Chester Pearson has in his sights at any given moment, are behind the Repeal.

As for your other out of context attacks on my character that was more a misguided attempt on my part to appease you and prevent Hell being split in two by you starting up a coup.

Bullshit. You hadn’t a clue that Fredd, Beeker and I were planning to coup you when we had that TG exchange. Revealing that you proposed working with me—a Nazi leader—to award badges to ‘vile’ Nazis, until I rejected your offer and your friendship, is also on-topic and blows another one of your arguments out of the water:

Believing any attention this region gains, further damages the international community as a whole

You became a believer only when Nazis began targeting your regions, otherwise you were content to engage in mutual backscratching with Nazis and badge 'em up till the cows came home.

Acknowledging that the region of The Greater German Reich was [a region that was] created for the sole purpose of disrupting regions, leftist or otherwise, and have accomplished these goals for years

The shit enclosed in brackets is superfluous. You don't really need 'the region of' either. Everyone knows the Greater German Reich is a region.

[Crazy girl]

Locking this until I get to my laptop. Unless Sedge gets to it first.

[Crazy girl]

Only time I drifted off-topic was to answer the juvenile outbursts of a largely incoherent kid with a bad haircut who is unable to differentiate between humor and inanity, thinks NS is the real world and wants to become physically intimate with me.

*** Warned for flaming. *** Your over all tone is baity as well, keep it in check.

[The Stalker]

I won't be addressing the comments made in Nodin's disgusting post and will do my best not to reply to any future posts by him either as it's pretty clear he isn't concerned with the truth.

If anyone has any inquiries about anything said above, please feel free to contact me via telegram, but I feel my prior posts do a good job addressing them already.

[Reino Unido de Brasil e Portugal]

The President of Council of Ministries Cabinet,

In name of the Commonwealth of Portuguese Nations all our governments approve the Security Council´s Resolution.

Attenciously,

President of Council of Ministries
United Kingdom of Brazil and Portugal
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Repeal "Condemn the Greater German Reich"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resoultion: SC#56 | Proposed by: Jean Pierre Trudeau

The Security Council,

Believing the authoring delegation of Security Council Resolution # 56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich" composed that resolution with the best of intentions,

Acknowledging that the region of The Greater German Reich was a region that was created for the sole purpose of disrupting regions, leftist or otherwise, and have accomplished these goals for years,

Also aware that The Greater German Reich has been fading into obscurity since the fall of Nazi Europe and Right Wing Uprising,

Confident since The Greater German Reich has faded into obscurity, the threat they pose to the international community has significantly diminished,

Further aware that since the delegates of The Pacific's, Lazarus, Osiris, and Balder have instituted public recruiting bans in their regional messages, recruitment for The Greater German Reich has fallen off the scale,

Pleased that the forces of ANTIFA and The Red Fleet have managed to curtail any efforts to establish a foothold in defenseless regions The Greater German Reich may have had,

Unconcerned that The Greater German Reich is an undemocratic region as this is of little interest to the international community,

Believing any attention this region gains, further damages the international community as a whole,

Hereby repeals SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION #56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich".

Mostly co-authored by [nation=short]The Stalker[/nation]

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Repeal "Condemn the Greater German Reich"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resoultion: SC#56 | Proposed by: Jean Pierre Trudeau

The Security Council,

Believing the authoring delegation of Security Council Resolution # 56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich" composed that resolution with the best of intentions,

Recognizing the dubious nature of the vile region the the Greater German Reich has had a negative impact on the world at large,

Disappointed that the Greater German Reich has only ever benefited from the notoriety gained from being a condemned region,

Asserting regions of such a hateful ideology shouldn't be recognized in any way by the World Assembly,

Concluding the international community would be better off allowing this region to fade into obscurity,

Hereby repeals SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION #56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich".

Mostly co-authored by [nation=short]The Stalker[/nation]

Al little project The Stalker and myself have been working on for a while. As always comments, concerns, general bitches are always welcome.

[For the Lones]

Members of the Council, we bring to your consideration the experience of our people. We just set that even the most lowly council pen-pusher has the same political power as a senior minister.

We came from a tradition of many efforts so that the people could take power in their hands. Through the fascist agency, capitalism sets in motion the masses of the crazed petty bourgeoisie and the bands of declassed and demoralized lumpenproletariat -- all the countless human beings whom finance capital itself has brought to desperation and frenzy.

The gigantic growth of National Socialism is an expression of two factors: a deep social crisis, throwing the petty bourgeois masses off balance, and the lack of a revolutionary party that would be regarded by the masses of the people as an acknowledged revolutionary leader. If the communist Party is the party of revolutionary hope, then fascism, as a mass movement, is the party of counter-revolutionary despair. When revolutionary hope embraces the whole proletarian mass, it inevitably pulls behind it on the road of revolution considerable and growing sections of the petty bourgeoisie. Precisely in this sphere the election revealed the opposite picture: counter-revolutionary despair embraced the petty bourgeois mass with such a force that it drew behind it many sections of the proletariat....

We are concerned about the ease with which many heads of state claiming self-determination of nations on behalf of gameplay, regardless of what they regimes meant.

We considered a shame to see Democrats pointing the finger at the Nazis, while the great cause of their war that cost the lives of millions of workers of the world in the past, was the division of trade routes and areas of political influence.

Taking advantage of the Nazi horror of the concentration camps and the Holocaust, as well as the repressive and totalitarian character of the Stalinist regime, the United States was imposing the course of the Cold War "Western democracy" as a synonym for "free world". And this despite there being perpetrated horrendous crimes such as bombing of Dresden or the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, not to mention the imperialist massacres in Vietnam and Algeria, and sustain the worst dictatorships of Suharto and the racist regime in Africa South, the Videla and Pinochet.

Given these considerations, we still can not but condemn Nazism and all its enthusiasts, hoping that workers from his country to stand up against the yoke imposed on them. We are at your disposal to assist them as possible and leave our borders open, confident that the workers of the world have no country and must unite.

[Imperium Anglorum]

To: World Assembly Nations, specifically, Members of the Security Concil
From: Imperium Anglorum, WA Delegate, Europe

As part of Europe's region-wide neutral foreign policy stance, the Empire (as Europe's WA Delegate) abstains from voting on all commend, condemn, liberation, and SC repeal resolutions pending a change in precedent caused by a constitutional convention. As such, Europe's government will refrain from voting on this resolution at this time.

Just thought you might want to know. Feedback and transparency is great, and in my opinion, all delegates should do it all the time.

[The Bruce]

It wasn't just the game created regions that they spammed. They repeatedly spammed player created regions a lot too. The excessive spam on region boards was probably what people hated most about them, aside from the obvious.

They weren't exactly the invader scourge of the NationStates World. If you were condemning them strictly on invader activities, they'd have about thirty invader groups condemned before their name would come up in conversation, for strictly invader accomplishments.

[Kaboomlandia]

Since Jean has been ejected from the WA and has abandoned that account, does The Stalker have any plans to submit this resolution?

[The Stalker]

At this point the resolution is on hold. I would still like to submit it down the line, once I believe it has the proper support it needs.

I certainly agree with Bruce's points. For the most part I think the Condemnation was more passed over people's dislike of their excessive spamming and being a Nazi region rather than their invader accomplishments outline in the Condemnation. As I've said before, compare them to a real raider region they greatly fall short.

[The Mid East Federation]

Just a fair reminder this region is still a hell hole in breaking rules, inciting violence, and much more. More recently a death threat on Hillary Clinton in its regional chat, and various other attacks that called for mods removing of some of its nations. I hardly think its time to remove the condemnation.

[Tano]

Just a fair reminder this region is still a hell hole in breaking rules, inciting violence, and much more. More recently a death threat on Hillary Clinton in its regional chat, and various other attacks that called for mods removing of some of its nations. I hardly think its time to remove the condemnation.

The reminder was not needed, seeing as this thread had been dead for over two weeks.

[The Stalker]

Just a fair reminder this region is still a hell hole in breaking rules, inciting violence, and much more. More recently a death threat on Hillary Clinton in its regional chat, and various other attacks that called for mods removing of some of its nations. I hardly think its time to remove the condemnation.

Yea that's kinda why I wanna removed their badge. That kind of behavior is why they are really condemned, and to me spamming and behavior like that shouldn't be acknowledged by the WA. All other Condemned regions earned theirs' on their raider prowess and actual accomplishments.