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Kim Sung Nam
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Postby Kim Sung Nam » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:06 pm

Age of Conscription in Kim Sung Nam is 16. ID isn't required to prove your age, it's more than likely that some under age children have slipped in there.
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Nadanerabia
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Postby Nadanerabia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:17 pm

The use of child soldiers is a waste of human resources, as they lack the strength of an adult and will only succeed in getting themselves killed.

They are better off working in a factory until they are of age to be a real use to their country.

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:21 pm

Nadanerabia wrote:The use of child soldiers is a waste of human resources, as they lack the strength of an adult and will only succeed in getting themselves killed.

They are better off working in a factory until they are of age to be a real use to their country.


Snipers don't require strength, neither does a saboteur or essentially any task that doesn't require meeting the enemy in hand to hand or carrying more supplies than necessasary.
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Postby Satirius » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:25 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Nadanerabia wrote:The use of child soldiers is a waste of human resources, as they lack the strength of an adult and will only succeed in getting themselves killed.

They are better off working in a factory until they are of age to be a real use to their country.


Snipers don't require strength, neither does a saboteur or essentially any task that doesn't require meeting the enemy in hand to hand or carrying more supplies than necessasary.

To get to a good nest, however, requires survival skills and strength, to overcome the ridiculous obstacles that would deter a dime-store infantry DM from taking that perch, and to lug around rifles routinely thrice as heavy as an M16. If you mean "sniper" as in the defensive sentry kind that shoot out of fortified towers, the whole equation changes, however.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:32 pm

Satirius wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Nadanerabia wrote:The use of child soldiers is a waste of human resources, as they lack the strength of an adult and will only succeed in getting themselves killed.

They are better off working in a factory until they are of age to be a real use to their country.


Snipers don't require strength, neither does a saboteur or essentially any task that doesn't require meeting the enemy in hand to hand or carrying more supplies than necessasary.

To get to a good nest, however, requires survival skills and strength, to overcome the ridiculous obstacles that would deter a dime-store infantry DM from taking that perch, and to lug around rifles routinely thrice as heavy as an M16. If you mean "sniper" as in the defensive sentry kind that shoot out of fortified towers, the whole equation changes, however.

The children are used predominantly in defense as a sniper they need only find an acceptable building to shoot from. The weight of the weapon often causes the two man teams to share the burden.
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Greater Tern
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Postby Greater Tern » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:44 pm

Like some nations, we do not allow anyone below the age of 18 to join the military. However, anyone above the age of 15 may join the Reserves.

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471 and free peoples
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Postby 471 and free peoples » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:16 pm

If a child wants to join the armed forces he be given that opportunity, during wartime children can be drafted if needed.

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Postby Grand France » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:39 pm

Des-Bal wrote:The children are used predominantly in defense as a sniper they need only find an acceptable building to shoot from. The weight of the weapon often causes the two man teams to share the burden.


There's more to effective sniping than that. I expect French Army snipers would eat yours up like snack cakes, on any battlefield.

~ Sergeant Mimi Thibodaux, French Army Scout-Sniper, Reconnaissance Specialist, 1er Régiment de Parachutistes d'Infanterie de Marine
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:41 pm

Grand France wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:The children are used predominantly in defense as a sniper they need only find an acceptable building to shoot from. The weight of the weapon often causes the two man teams to share the burden.


There's more to effective sniping than that. I expect French Army snipers would eat yours up like snack cakes, on any battlefield.

~ Sergeant Mimi Thibodaux, French Army Scout-Sniper, Reconnaissance Specialist, 1er Régiment de Parachutistes d'Infanterie de Marine


Thats why the french are so well known for their combat effectivness.

Find a building, shoot, do not miss, relocate. Urban sniping is a much simpler art.
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Postby Grand France » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:47 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Thats why the french are so well known for their combat effectivness.

Find a building, shoot, do not miss, relocate. Urban sniping is a much simpler art.


Not quite so simple as all that, just different in its complexities. I see you are one of those who chooses to ignore the reality because it is not in line with his prejudices. Very well. I believe one of our generals has said this earlier, but...feel free to stop on by, sometime, and see how wrong believing anything you are told can be.

~ Sergeant Mimi Thibodaux, French Army Scout-Sniper, Reconnaissance Specialist, 1er Régiment de Parachutistes d'Infanterie de Marine
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There's a widow in sleepy Chester
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There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.


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The Children of Mama
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Postby The Children of Mama » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:58 pm

Well, I suppose we all count here. Mama identifies Children with aptitude as soldiers early on in our education and directs them along that path.

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KonataLand
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Postby KonataLand » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:32 pm

We allow all females, regardless of age, to join the military. Men are banned from the army, as our uniforms consist of miko costumes.

It raises morale, and, well, we never actually get into a real war.

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Postby Grand France » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:33 pm

KonataLand wrote:We allow all females, regardless of age, to join the military. Men are banned from the army, as our uniforms consist of miko costumes.

It raises morale, and, well, we never actually get into a real war.


Wow.
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~ George Orwell


There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.


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If life gives you lemons, keep them, because, hey, free lemons.

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KonataLand
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Postby KonataLand » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:02 pm

Our Moe Corps. shall knock you all down!

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Fatatatutti
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:12 pm

Des-Bal wrote:You can't easilly teach an adult something, the majority of what they "learn" they simply remember. When you teach a child something they devote portions of their brain to this task it becomes hardwired in. This type of training is not easilly lost and is recalled much easier than that from later life.

Nonsense. You're taking a task that a child simply can not do - e.g. operating a weapon in a theater of war - and trying to extract the bits and pieces that he can do at an early age. There's no reason for that.

And the "hard wiring" that you talk about is precisely the indoctrination that I was talking about earlier. Indoctrination makes poor soldiers. A flexible, thinking soldier is far more effective.

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Raul Caribe
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Postby Raul Caribe » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:31 pm

Since military service is compulsory and we do not have public schools. The military has Junior Services were parents if they wish or cannot afford private schools can enlist their children for a state education. At which time the Army takes control of educating the child for 8 hours a day 4 days a week.
School is 12 months a year. With 4 semesters consisting of 3 months each.

Hour 1
Mathematics

Hour 2
Reading / History (which means the assignments in reading are to read about history.)

Hour 3
PT (physical training)

Hour 4

Lunch :30 min /Formation Drills :30 min ( DIs will bark formation orders while standing in lines for mess and afterwards.)

Hour 5
Military Tactics / Weapons

Hour 6
Writing

Hour 7
Elective Hour, Student Chooses one choice per semester.
Study Hour (For students to complete homework assignments)
Advanced Military Tactics
Mechanics Training
Wood Working
Home Service Skills
Military Honor Guard
Military Band
Political Theory
Religions & Theory
General/Advanced Flight (in simulators)
Engineer Training


Hour 8
Sciences (Skill LvL and field progress as grade LvL increases)

Class sizes are large with a single SI (Studies Instructor usually a Captain or Major.) and multiple DIs (Drill Instructors usually Lt’s & Sgt’s) serving as Aids to the SI.

Students that attend Military schools for a min of 6 years will enter into service foregoing Basic Training. Advancing in Rank to Cpl after completing AIT

Students Attending for less than 6 years or those who attended private schools will enter service at recruit LvL and attend 12 week basic training course with no Rank advancement.

School is run on an Honor system and Tests are only used to determine where a students next LvL of studies needs more attention. Passing a grade LvL is determined by the SI and Subordinate DIs per class. A student can fail one class subject and still advance a grade LvL.

1. Fails are cumulative so in the course of 3 years failing 1 course every year the student will have to repeat his last grade LvL and this continue throughout his/her Schooling career.
2. Failing 2 courses in one year is an automatic repeat of grade LvL.
3. Violating the honor code and caught cheating will remove the student from the Public school system.
4. Corporal Punishment is allowed and can be administered by any SI or DI and must be preformed in front of entire class.
5. Group punishment is allowed (Meaning the entire Class running laps, pushups, policing the grounds and so on.)


i have gotten a couple of telegrams about this. while my schools ar3e funded by the military and it has training involved the students are not in the military until age of 18 its just school run by the military for the government and in return for the free education students must serve. the Branch they choose when adults is up to them and service enlistment can be deferd until after completing college if the student decides to further their education.

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Eldar Ulthwe
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Postby Eldar Ulthwe » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:03 am

Never.
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Postby Yannia » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:48 am

In Yannia, self-defense & martial arts are part of the basic school curriculum (ages 6 to 12), while basic training is part of the high school curriculum (ages 12 to 16).

Many children learn to handle firearms at an early age, sometimes even before they begin basic school.
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Cryath
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Postby Cryath » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:38 pm

Cryath does not, as a matter of fact, have an army. So child soldiers would sort of not exist either. Our nearest equivalent is a defence force, which only adults over the age of eighteen are permitted to apply for.

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Postby Kalasparata » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:54 pm

TAhe army is 100% optional and you may join at the age of 5 but all parentsw, guardens and the child themself has to agree 100% on it. Once the child is 14, they have the only choise and the parents and guardiens have no say any more
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Postby Gillicious 2H » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:59 pm

In our country, compulsory Military service occurs at 17. However Ninjas can apply at anytime. Obviously.

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Former Principalities
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Postby Former Principalities » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:04 am

16+ for the militia, 18+ for standard army.

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Postby New Amerik » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:35 am

There is no official age limit for going into the military in New Amerik, but we have developed a strategy that mostly works in scaring off the unprepared. All recruits are shown an introductary video showing the realistic results of any war we might have fight in. This can ward off the drunk and those who are on a dare.

In times of need, however, all citizens are expected to fight as best they can.
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Postby Krumolia » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:22 pm

It is considered an awful travesty and is not legal.
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:30 pm

It is, as others would assume by the name of our Empire and by the appearance of our glorious flag, compulsory.
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