Infantry Discussion Thread 9: Parabellum [NO KAIJU]

[Gallia-]

Cool dildo robot

it's obviously egg shaped

[Fordorsia]

Egg dildo that's what I said

[Gallia-]

you mean tree

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_(installation)

i will not accept "suppository", "butt plug", "dildo", "a woman's best friend", "riveted for her/his pleasure", etc. because these are far too on the nose :v

[Triplebaconation]

Direct fire

[Gallia-]

i was under the impression that mini-spike had some sort of indirect fire capacity ;_;

though since it is kill it probably never had anything i guess RIP

[Rhodesialund]

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[Puzikas]

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faster than a man drowning in sea foam on omaha beach while pinned to the bottom by the weight of an M1919
tougher than a man dressed in the world's heaviest/fattest ballistic vest except for the one portrayed
he can punch through drywall and be supported by a typical office building elevator, and floor if he's careful where he walks
can jump slightly higher than a man burdened by 150 lbs of battle dress if he tucks his legs in
can break twice as many tanks at once as a normal human being (two)
carries as much barbecue ribs as three men on both his waistline and in his hands
can crush a human skull like an unreasonably soft pumpkin
can survive more bullets than normal men were ever meant to see much less be hit by
he is SPERGMAN

pilot/wearer in the middle

suit is protected against 12.7x99mm AP across the thorax and 7.62x51mm AP, fire, and splinter along the extremities tl;dr practically immune to small arms fire and probably should be treated as a tank (or at least a LAV) from the perspective of defense

suit is sealed against contaminants including radiological and chemical/biological, with the ability to internally generate oxygen in hostile atmospheres, pilot wears a cooling garment and vest which keeps him from overheating in the suit up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit

25mm cannon can fire all 25x59mm ammunition including HEAB, and the arm weapon can be braced and stabilized by the onboard computer when the muzzle reference sensor is acquired by the digital sight on top of the armour

maximum effective range of the 5.56mm weapon when firing stabilized is probably something like 600m, while the 25mm and 12.7mm exceed 1 km

rockets are data linked by connectors to the suit computer, and the Mini-Spike knockoff can be guided after launched by wireless while RB 57 is simply an inertial system

there is probably the ability to carry, fire, and guide a heavy NLOS rocket by the soldier, but this would require some manual hefting probably and assistance

external ordnance can be reloaded by an assistant who wears conventional body armour and mounts weapons on the interface rails

internal ammunition is probably reloaded by machine like an airplane i guess? maybe the magazines can be pulled by an assistant or three and replaced with full-up racks of ammunition though

pilot has no real direct vision outwards (normally, it's there if he needs it), he sees through a pair of vibrating mirrors which preserve parallax and his digital sight which has FLIR and day sights, a laser rangefinder, and can be programmed for zeroing of different types of ammunition like a tank FCS

speed is normal walking pace or a fast jog, which to someone who is normally paralyzed by a combination of fear and fatigue must seem superhuman, and the body armour can accommodate 300 lbs of whatever

tl;dr it's literally PITMAN god bless america

It looks like one of several medical instruments made to go where things of their size aught not to

Bravo.

That is a lot of grenades. How are/were grenades used?

Pull pin
Throw
Pray
???
Dead Jerries

Mostly for the trenches in WWI. Stormtroopers and raiding parties preferred huge amounts of grenades more than about anything else.

[Spirit of Hope]

That is a lot of grenades. How are/were grenades used?

Pull pin
Throw
Pray
???
Dead Jerries

Mostly for the trenches in WWI. Stormtroopers and raiding parties preferred huge amounts of grenades more than about anything else.

I was just curious if there was any more thought to grenade use besides pull pin and throw.

[Puzikas]

Like on a tactical level?
Grenades are excellent at clearing out confined spaces for obvious reasons.
There's greater overall thought to how and when to employ grenade(s) in combat but I'd be writing for like 4 hours of Interest to discuss it.

[The Gamindustrian Union]

How do my military honors look?

Ribbon	English Name (Abbreviation when applicable)	Japanese Name (Roumaji)	Earned By
	Medal of Honor (MOH)	名誉勲章 (Meiyo Kunshou)	Extreme acts of valor and gallantry. (Highest level of the meritorious honors.)
	Victorious Order (VO)	勝利勲章 (Shouri Kunshou)	Generals/Admirals/Marshals whose actions caused victory for the Gamindustrian Union and her allies.
	Distinguished Service Medal (DSM)	功労勲章 (Kourou Kunshou)	Greater gallantry or meritorious service against enemies of Gamindustri. (Level four of the meritorious honors.)
	Gold Diamond (GD)	金菱形 (Kinryoukei)	Gallantry against enemies of Gamindustri. (Level three of the meritorious honors.)
	Silver Diamond (SD)	銀菱形 (Ginryoukei)	Heroism or gallantry in combat. (Level two of the meritorious honors.)
	Commendation	表彰 (Hyoushou)	Heroism or merit. (Level one and lowest level of the meritorious honors.)
	Exalted Order of the Four Heroes 1. Squire (SFH). Has no overlay. 2. Champion (CFH). Has an overlay of one diamonds. 3. Paladin (PFH). Has an overlay of two diamonds. 4. Paladin Grand Diamond (GFH). Has an overlay of three diamonds.	四英雄高貴勲章 (Yon Eiyuu Kouki Kunshou) 1. 従者 (Juusha) 2. 勇者 (Yuusha) 3. パラディン (Paradin) 4. 大菱形パラディン (Dairyoukei Paradin)	Prominent military activity.
	Deployment: Europe	展開：欧州 (Tenkai: Oushuu)	Service under the command of the Gamindustrian Allied Forces Europe Region Command (GAFERC).
	Deployment: Middle East	展開：中東 (Tenkai: Chuutou)	Service under the command of the Gamindustrian Allied Forces Middle East Region Command (GAFMERC).
	Deployment: Asia-Pacific	展開：亜太 (Tenkai: Atai)	Service under the command of the Gamindustrian Allied Forces Asia-Pacific Region Command (GAFAPRC).
	Deployment: Other	展開：他 (Tenkai: Hoka)	Service in foreign lands not under the spheres of responsibility of the current overseas region commands. Also awarded to embassy security staff.
	Prisoner of War	捕虜 (Horyo)	Being a prisoner of war (POW), whether Gamindustri is in active combat or not.
	Gold Heart (GH)	金の心 (Kin no Kokoro)	Injury or death in battle.
	Good Conduct Award	善行賞 (Zenkou-shou)	Exemplary behavior and loyalty in active military service.
	Combat. Has overlay based on number of battles fought: 1 = No overlay. 2 = Overlay of one diamond. 3 = Overlay of two diamonds. 4+ = Overlay of three diamonds.	戦闘 (Sentou)	Participation in combat. Awarded for every war participated.

[Taihei Tengoku]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>katakana

at least use 騎士 or 英雄者

[Spirit of Hope]

Like on a tactical level?
Grenades are excellent at clearing out confined spaces for obvious reasons.
There's greater overall thought to how and when to employ grenade(s) in combat but I'd be writing for like 4 hours of Interest to discuss it.

Well I would be interested in this at some point.

[The Gamindustrian Union]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>katakana

at least use 騎士 or 英雄者

Thanks. I needed the Katakana of Paladin without being equal to Eiyuu.

[Eisarn-Ara]

tl;dr it's literally PITMAN god bless america

You made "The Pope's Pear: Infantryman Edition". Nice, I think?

[Spreewerke]

Firing my Yugo. M48 chambered in 7.92x57mm IS from the hip as a 16y/o or however old I was (5'11", 130lbs. if interested) did nothing but kick rearward a bit since I didn't have a shoulder behind it to stop it.

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Bear in mind though for those who have never fired a gun before and this gif makes it seem pretty mild, older rifles tend to be pretty heavy, as in around ten pounds.

If you are completely unprepared or have a bad grip on the rifle it is conceivable that one would drop the gun while hip firing. If one is aware and prepared, firing from the hip shouldn't be a problem as Spree noted.

That weight will reduce recoil, and if you can manage to just keep your fingers wrapped around the stock, you can keep a rifle in your hands during recoil from the hip. The trigger guard will prevent it from flying rearwards like in some kind of stupid movie.

[Theodosiya]

Eh, how useful is it to use 2 ballistic plate for frontal torso protection?

[Puzikas]

What?

[Spirit of Hope]

Eh, how useful is it to use 2 ballistic plate for frontal torso protection?

Not very. You may stop heavier bullets from killing your men but now their armor is heavier and bulkier. Not to mention all that energy has to go somewhere, so broken rib will still be removing personnel as casualties.

[Husseinarti]

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faster than a man drowning in sea foam on omaha beach while pinned to the bottom by the weight of an M1919
tougher than a man dressed in the world's heaviest/fattest ballistic vest except for the one portrayed
he can punch through drywall and be supported by a typical office building elevator, and floor if he's careful where he walks
can jump slightly higher than a man burdened by 150 lbs of battle dress if he tucks his legs in
can break twice as many tanks at once as a normal human being (two)
carries as much barbecue ribs as three men on both his waistline and in his hands
can crush a human skull like an unreasonably soft pumpkin
can survive more bullets than normal men were ever meant to see much less be hit by
he is SPERGMAN

pilot/wearer in the middle

suit is protected against 12.7x99mm AP across the thorax and 7.62x51mm AP, fire, and splinter along the extremities tl;dr practically immune to small arms fire and probably should be treated as a tank (or at least a LAV) from the perspective of defense

suit is sealed against contaminants including radiological and chemical/biological, with the ability to internally generate oxygen in hostile atmospheres, pilot wears a cooling garment and vest which keeps him from overheating in the suit up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit

25mm cannon can fire all 25x59mm ammunition including HEAB, and the arm weapon can be braced and stabilized by the onboard computer when the muzzle reference sensor is acquired by the digital sight on top of the armour

maximum effective range of the 5.56mm weapon when firing stabilized is probably something like 600m, while the 25mm and 12.7mm exceed 1 km

rockets are data linked by connectors to the suit computer, and the Mini-Spike knockoff can be guided after launched by wireless while RB 57 is simply an inertial system

there is probably the ability to carry, fire, and guide a heavy NLOS rocket by the soldier, but this would require some manual hefting probably and assistance

external ordnance can be reloaded by an assistant who wears conventional body armour and mounts weapons on the interface rails

internal ammunition is probably reloaded by machine like an airplane i guess? maybe the magazines can be pulled by an assistant or three and replaced with full-up racks of ammunition though

pilot has no real direct vision outwards (normally, it's there if he needs it), he sees through a pair of vibrating mirrors which preserve parallax and his digital sight which has FLIR and day sights, a laser rangefinder, and can be programmed for zeroing of different types of ammunition like a tank FCS

speed is normal walking pace or a fast jog, which to someone who is normally paralyzed by a combination of fear and fatigue must seem superhuman, and the body armour can accommodate 300 lbs of whatever

tl;dr it's literally PITMAN god bless america

He needs a 60mm mortar on his other arm.

[Theodosiya]

What?

Using 2 frontal plate in combat gear. Like one in carrier, one in ballistic vest. Some time ago you show us the 6B vest and carrier ,both could be worn as one and both could hold plate. Kinda like SAKTI gear used by paras in Indonesian Army.A Carrier module and a ballistic vest module that could be used together or independent of each other. The carrier could hold plate.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Like on a tactical level?
Grenades are excellent at clearing out confined spaces for obvious reasons.
There's greater overall thought to how and when to employ grenade(s) in combat but I'd be writing for like 4 hours of Interest to discuss it.

I have nothing but tim.

[Gallia-]

What?

Using 2 frontal plate in combat gear. Like one in carrier, one in ballistic vest. Some time ago you show us the 6B vest and carrier ,both could be worn as one and both could hold plate. Kinda like SAKTI gear used by paras in Indonesian Army.A Carrier module and a ballistic vest module that could be used together or independent of each other. The carrier could hold plate.

wear L IOTV over XS IOTV

ESAPI in both

you are now invulnerable

(Image)

faster than a man drowning in sea foam on omaha beach while pinned to the bottom by the weight of an M1919
tougher than a man dressed in the world's heaviest/fattest ballistic vest except for the one portrayed
he can punch through drywall and be supported by a typical office building elevator, and floor if he's careful where he walks
can jump slightly higher than a man burdened by 150 lbs of battle dress if he tucks his legs in
can break twice as many tanks at once as a normal human being (two)
carries as much barbecue ribs as three men on both his waistline and in his hands
can crush a human skull like an unreasonably soft pumpkin
can survive more bullets than normal men were ever meant to see much less be hit by
he is SPERGMAN

pilot/wearer in the middle

suit is protected against 12.7x99mm AP across the thorax and 7.62x51mm AP, fire, and splinter along the extremities tl;dr practically immune to small arms fire and probably should be treated as a tank (or at least a LAV) from the perspective of defense

suit is sealed against contaminants including radiological and chemical/biological, with the ability to internally generate oxygen in hostile atmospheres, pilot wears a cooling garment and vest which keeps him from overheating in the suit up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit

25mm cannon can fire all 25x59mm ammunition including HEAB, and the arm weapon can be braced and stabilized by the onboard computer when the muzzle reference sensor is acquired by the digital sight on top of the armour

maximum effective range of the 5.56mm weapon when firing stabilized is probably something like 600m, while the 25mm and 12.7mm exceed 1 km

rockets are data linked by connectors to the suit computer, and the Mini-Spike knockoff can be guided after launched by wireless while RB 57 is simply an inertial system

there is probably the ability to carry, fire, and guide a heavy NLOS rocket by the soldier, but this would require some manual hefting probably and assistance

external ordnance can be reloaded by an assistant who wears conventional body armour and mounts weapons on the interface rails

internal ammunition is probably reloaded by machine like an airplane i guess? maybe the magazines can be pulled by an assistant or three and replaced with full-up racks of ammunition though

pilot has no real direct vision outwards (normally, it's there if he needs it), he sees through a pair of vibrating mirrors which preserve parallax and his digital sight which has FLIR and day sights, a laser rangefinder, and can be programmed for zeroing of different types of ammunition like a tank FCS

speed is normal walking pace or a fast jog, which to someone who is normally paralyzed by a combination of fear and fatigue must seem superhuman, and the body armour can accommodate 300 lbs of whatever

tl;dr it's literally PITMAN god bless america

It looks like one of several medical instruments made to go where things of their size aught not to

Bravo.

it just disappeared

[Minroz]

Hmm, how about Daewoo K7?

They were said to be Korean inexpensive versions of MP5.

It's a fine gun and a good choice if you want your SMG to run suppressed all the time but if you want an SMG for general use you might want to look at something that is not integrally suppressed.

Noted, I might keep the K7. Regarding the latter, in that case I might as well used one of those Swiss SMGs as an alternative. Or I can use the Vityaz-SN or the Bizon as my military's general SMGs.

Anyone have thoughts on these two Russkie SMGs?

[Puzikas]

Vityaz literally best SMG.

[Fordorsia]

I saw a picture of the SA80's bayonet again, so now I'm angry. It's like it was designed to be hated.