Infantry Discussion Thread 9: Parabellum [NO KAIJU]

[EsToVnIa]

spooky height differences

[Taihei Tengoku]

13 man squads best

[Gallia-]

spooky height differences

i was going to give them faces but only the lieutenant loosk any different

and camouflage faces is currently the bleeding edge of spergscale as ive found out

[Gallia-]

13 man squads best

only if csw

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

mfw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map- ... ion_fr.svg

Is it really a surprise to you lol

The entirety of French modern history (more or less) is basically copulation with Arabic and Islamic populations.

The actual hyper racists are Quebecois.

Considering the huge lack of overlap between your cited pages and the entire lack of a France in the Arab League, I'm fairly certain you have no idea what you're talking about.

Or you might just not understand the concept of a senpai.

[Minroz]

13 man squads best

13 man squads best

only if csw

In my case, I've decided to stick with 12 man squads. In my defense, it's partly for logistic reasons.

[Gallia-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map- ... ion_fr.svg

Is it really a surprise to you lol

The entirety of French modern history (more or less) is basically copulation with Arabic and Islamic populations.

The actual hyper racists are Quebecois.

Considering the huge lack of overlap between your cited pages and the entire lack of a France in the Arab League, I'm fairly certain you have no idea what you're talking about.

Or you might just not understand the concept of a senpai.

"huge lack of overlap" lol that's cute

after all france only has 10% of its population as muslim, only owned lots of majority muslim states like chad and algeria for 200 yrs (not a huge stretch to say basically the entire french empire was muslim since a lot of it was former caliphate/ottoman stuff), and continues to act as a paternalist protector towards its muslim colonies in the francafrique

nevermind that the highest penetration of french culture and language is centers of islamic or arab culture such as an ankara and algiers just ignore that since only in the very recent history has the arab world turned its back on french culture in pursuit of its own national identity that isnt tied to french dominion

mb you dont know what youre talking about lol seems to be the case as typical for these threads

france is the most islamized state in europe except for islamic states like albania and turkey (and chechnya) lol

ignoring france's historic ties to the islamic world is basically like considering the USA without the context of england it's retarded lol

or maybe england without the context of the british empire i guess

either way it's a heavy lol and also wrong since french culture and arab culture are so heavily intertwined since the 1800s thanks napoleon you the real mvp

[Kazarogkai]

13 man squads seem a little large, though I'm not much better with my 12 man sections so. Personally I never cared much for the idea that the section leader be a separate person entirely, I stick with the old SL being simultaneously a TL of his own personal team. For all intents and purposes the SL is just the highest ranking TL while the TL(s) are the highest ranking members of their team. Just my opinion on that matter.

Also I have a question, what is your guy's opinion on the use of battalion level Infantry Support Guns in a WW2 era military force rather than a Mortar?The general inspiration would be something along the lines of an Italian Cannone da 47/32 or a Lighter variant of the German 8.8 cm Flak 18/36/37/41. It's use would of course be for Direct Fire support of infantry units but I was thinking of it being used also in a Light AT/AA role.

[Gallia-]

making the section leader be a fire/maneuver team leader massively reduces his flexibility in commanding the section

it means he has to babysit mostly

making him separate gives him flexibility to go to whoever requires his services in Their Time Of Greatest Need

[Kazarogkai]

making the section leader be a fire/maneuver team leader massively reduces his flexibility in commanding the section

it means he has to babysit mostly

making him separate gives him flexibility to go to whoever requires his services in Their Time Of Greatest Need

I'd rather the SL not be a manuver team leader, I was thinking he'd more than likely be a fire team leader commanding the section's main fire power asset and distributed it's services where needed. The SL honestly is not that important, he's not an officer nor does he have any special training other than his experience and for all intents and purposes his job is principally directing fire and being the director of the his higher ups needs. As such he kinda is a babysitter already, might as well just have him command the most important asset of the section in question(base of fire). Meh.

[Gallia-]

sections have multiple bases of fire

13-man sections are good because it means you maintain actual maneuver in reality, where a section will be understrength and all semblance of maneuver disappears once you hit 5-6 people and the group just amalgamates into a big blob supported by the IFV

a 13-man section can divide itself into two fire/maneuver teams and retain internal maneuver even when severely understrength

although gallan sections cant actually do this because they have an 84mm recoilless rifle that eats up manpower because i have a personal fetish for WP smoke shells

[Crookfur]

13 man squads seem a little large, though I'm not much better with my 12 man sections so. Personally I never cared much for the idea that the section leader be a separate person entirely, I stick with the old SL being simultaneously a TL of his own personal team. For all intents and purposes the SL is just the highest ranking TL while the TL(s) are the highest ranking members of their team. Just my opinion on that matter.

Also I have a question, what is your guy's opinion on the use of battalion level Infantry Support Guns in a WW2 era military force rather than a Mortar?The general inspiration would be something along the lines of an Italian Cannone da 47/32 or a Lighter variant of the German 8.8 cm Flak 18/36/37/41. It's use would of course be for Direct Fire support of infantry units but I was thinking of it being used also in a Light AT/AA role.

Meh just have mortars and AT guns. However use slightly larger calibre AT guns ie shortish 6 pounders rather than 1 or 2 pounders so they can provide some direct fire support.

[Kassaran]

Gallia, why no black man in platoons huh?? Gallian military racist now?

[New Axiom]

Would it make sense, economically, to produce, issue, and stockpile uniforms and infantry equipment in both woodland and desert camoflauge patterns? Especially if your planning on or currently operating in woodlands and desert theaters simultaneously?

[Immoren]

Would it make sense, economically, to produce, issue, and stockpile uniforms and infantry equipment in both woodland and desert camoflauge patterns? Especially if your planning on or currently operating in woodlands and desert theaters simultaneously?

Just make an uniform that can be turned between woodland and desert camo by turning it upside down.

[Laritaia]

Would it make sense, economically, to produce, issue, and stockpile uniforms and infantry equipment in both woodland and desert camoflauge patterns? Especially if your planning on or currently operating in woodlands and desert theaters simultaneously?

yes.

[Western Weyard]

Also I have a question, what is your guy's opinion on the use of battalion level Infantry Support Guns in a WW2 era military force rather than a Mortar?The general inspiration would be something along the lines of an Italian Cannone da 47/32 or a Lighter variant of the German 8.8 cm Flak 18/36/37/41. It's use would of course be for Direct Fire support of infantry units but I was thinking of it being used also in a Light AT/AA role.

Well, if you don't absolutely need the AT/AA ability, there's always the leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18, literally light infantry gun.

[Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502]

What's the deal with boarding pikes in shipboard combat? I understand they weren't the massive 6-meter sarissas or Renaissance pikes used on land, but they seem incredibly unwieldy when the vast majority of weapons have the length of axes, cutlasses, pistols, etc. The only other long weapon used in, say, Napoleonic times would have been a musket + bayonet, but the person wielding that would be a marine, someone who probably wouldn't have to climb into the rigging during combat or go in similar awkward areas.

[Fordorsia]

What's the deal with boarding pikes in shipboard combat? I understand they weren't the massive 6-meter sarissas or Renaissance pikes used on land, but they seem incredibly unwieldy when the vast majority of weapons have the length of axes, cutlasses, pistols, etc. The only other long weapon used in, say, Napoleonic times would have been a musket + bayonet, but the person wielding that would be a marine, someone who probably wouldn't have to climb into the rigging during combat or go in similar awkward areas.

It's not like in the movies were one crew boards the other ship effortlessly in one swift motion. You'd be fighting with the pikes as the ships are next to each other before anyone starts boarding. Think, would you be one of the few people to jump onto an enemy ship full of enemy crewmen? NOPE. You'd want to wait until muskets and pikes kill a bunch of people first. And even on the large deck of a ship a bunch of pikes and spears work just as they do on land. Perfect at keeping people away, while those people have essentially no defense against them. The pike was the main melee weapon when ships came together, not cutlasses, and certainly not axes, which were tool axes for tool stuff.

Also I think it would be the marines who would be in the rigging and other vantage points during combat. After all, they're the best shots on the ship. A small number of marines in comparison to essentially the entire crew would not make a difference in boarding actions, whereas when shooting, they would.


Unrelated. San why did the dumb Romans not have cohorts on the flanks armed with spears after the Marian reforms? Why were they dumb enough to rely solely on their own cavalry and shitty barbarian auxiliaries to hold their flanks?

[Spreewerke]

(Image)

disturbing lack of cheeki breeki cyka bylat rush b

>AK-100 series stock
>Angled stock latch
>flat-back receiver
>TRIGGERED

[EsToVnIa]

flat back receiver is best receiver

[Fordorsia]

What's up with the butt plug muzzle?

[Spreewerke]

What's up with the butt plug muzzle?

I didn't know how else to market it to you without it.

[Purpelia]

My only complaint is that the white background contrasts massively with the black thus making the entire thing blend in and making details a tad more difficult to discern.
Something like 3x128 would make it pop much more.

[Fordorsia]

You're just old and blind

Or just turn up your brightness a bit. I can see it all just fine.