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Victorious Decepticons
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:01 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Fascist
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To some, Victorious Decepticons may seem quite anarchic, since there are none of the regular laws of most societies (except the one against dissent/treason).

However, just try even whispering that maybe the way we do things should be changed. Or that Decepticons aren't the greatest lifeform. Or that Megatron shouldn't be the leader. As you are marched to the pits of the National Foundry for your melting-down on live media, you will realize how fascist we really are!
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Hemenster
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Postby Hemenster » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:48 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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For some reason I don't think that 'Complete Democracy by the people' is the best middle point...
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Diatraba
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Postby Diatraba » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:13 am

We are ruled by a Supreme Director who, along with the heads of the relevant Directorats (same as normal government depts) make the decisions. Elections are held within the party - the People get no choice
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Transnestria (Ancient)
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Postby Transnestria (Ancient) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:29 pm

|-----------------------------X---------------------------------------------------------|

Democratic and free.

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Namabia
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Postby Namabia » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:37 pm

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|--------------------------------------------|--X----------------------------------------------|

Completely ruled by God first, and the people second. Government Third.
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TurtleShroom
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Postby TurtleShroom » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:04 pm

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Chancellors:
Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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                                                                                                  ^ It would be higher, but the Chancellors are bound by the Constitution, by their
                                                                                                     own benevolence, by the Masses (coup happens), and a lot more. They can not
                                                                                                     override the Holy Mairrage Tribunal, Prohibition, or the Constitution, except in
                                                                                                     DEFCON 0. Any amendments to the Constitution also bind the Chancellors.


The rest of government:
Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|-----------------------------------------|---------X------------------------------------|
                                                                  ^ See national page. The police force is called "all-pervasive" and the government "omnipresent".
                                                                     Yet, dissent exists and so does questiong the government, along with freedom of speech, religion,
                                                                     and association (excluding Nazis, Satanism, Pastafarianism, and "parody religions").




TurtleShroom's stand is blurry. You see, there are two Chancellors who have absolute veto/override/changing power on all branches of government, but they are bound to the Constitution and its protection of liberties (and Prohibition). Also, they can't override the HMT. Chancellors can't amend the Constitution, and they can't alter it (unless in DEFCON 0). Only the People and Congress can submit amendments, the former by referendum/petetion, the latter by a majority vote (and THEN off to the people). Any amendment or Constitutional segment can be repealed, except Prohibition, which gives numerous hurdles to repeal.

Yet, TurtleShroom has a democratically elected Congress consisting of five hundred unicameral cronies, democratically elected Justices, referendums when need-be, and they can vote where their tax Skillets go. Remember that, according to the NS Issues, people can directly approach the Chancellors and even hide under their desks. Furthermore, questioning the government and taxes is not only allowed, it is encouraged. Freedom of religion (or lack thereof) is allowed, unless the "faith" is Satanic, Pastafarian, or a "parody religion".

The Chancellors prefer to let the rest of government do its job on its own, only stepping in when a NS Issue arrives and demands their decision, or if military action or diplomacy is needed.


See the National Factbook in the national signature for more.
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South Indies
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Postby South Indies » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:31 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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The Grand World Order
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Postby The Grand World Order » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:19 pm

Amystris wrote:Use this scale to show how Free or Autocratic your country is during RP.

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------|


Add your Political belife into this scale or just state where you fall


I am an Athortitarian Corparitist, very close to Facism



You seem to know next to nothing about what Fascism (Spelled FaSCism, not FACISM) is. It is not even close to the most authoritarian form of government possible.

A more correct term would be "Orwellian," as in INGSOC/Oceania from 1984.

The GWO is autocratic like hell, but never believe for a second that the Grand Commander runs everything on his own. He actually has large think tanks and legions of advisors, along with lower-level management personnel, to help him run the government. While he has the final say in anything and his word is law (unless it violates the Artiche Protocols), it is very possible to achieve considerable power via meritocratic means.

Democracy was proven by GWO researchers to cause bloc voting (i.e. very easy-to-manipulate sheep populace), sloth, greed (eventually, everything just becomes a bid for re-election), and division (as seen in the Neon Province Experiment, where upset Communist GWO voters taking part in the experiment took up arms because their candidate lost to a Fascist).

Anarchy is the very definition of a failed state.

You also should never claim that an autocratic government cannot lead a free nation. It's very possible for a dictator to do almost nothing to interfere in the lives of his people, thus leaving them free by all definitions. In fact, the GWO typically doesn't interfere with people unless they get involved with the government or politics somehow.
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Cesarcas
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Postby Cesarcas » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:24 pm

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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Liberal-Finns
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Postby Liberal-Finns » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:57 pm

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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Greater Rhodes
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Postby Greater Rhodes » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:00 pm

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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The New Sith Lords
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Postby The New Sith Lords » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:13 pm

We are VERY autocratic. Almost all power is held by Darth Terron.

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Voerdeland
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Postby Voerdeland » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:11 am

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|N---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------N|
We are an anarchistic feudalism, thus we have absolute freedom, as well as autocratic lords ruling their lands however they wish, best of both worlds I say!

How can you call yourself "a free nation", if your "social norms" are more oppresive than the laws of most countries?
How can you call yourself "a free nation", if one's gender determines his/her future?

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Hayaba
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Postby Hayaba » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:09 am

We are a Limited democracy.
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New Lusitaniagrad
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:24 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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We are a monarchy so.........
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Postby Sebastianalandia » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:34 am

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Nihilistic Society--Anarchy--Direct Democracy--Lolbertarian--Disguised Plutocracy--Dictatorship--Totalitarian State--Hivemind
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We really like the 'hivemind' idea, but we aren't arrogant enough to claim it for ourselves.
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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:52 am

This scale is flawed, this is how it should be set up

Anarchy------------------------------------------------------------------------------No Elections
Chaos--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Order
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IC Nation Name: The Glorious Empire of Luthoria
Monarch: Emperor Siegfried XVI

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:54 am

Voerdeland wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|N---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------N|
We are an anarchistic feudalism, thus we have absolute freedom, as well as autocratic lords ruling their lands however they wish, best of both worlds I say!

How can you call yourself "a free nation", if your "social norms" are more oppresive than the laws of most countries?
How can you call yourself "a free nation", if one's gender determines his/her future?

No, he is an Anarchy, he is just an example of how it can go wrong. I do not think that there are laws in his nation about anything, but the upper classes made up their own rules or cultural norms which they force each other and the poor to follow.
IC Nation Name: The Glorious Empire of Luthoria
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Postby Thurask » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:38 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------X|(Communist)
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Economic Left/Right: ln 0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: lim (x->0) 1/x
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Greater Rhodes
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Postby Greater Rhodes » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:24 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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Comunkzi
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Postby Comunkzi » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:12 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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Anarchy as in without a central government. Comunkzi is a federation ruled by the people democratically through the individual worker's communes.
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Postby Ravnalis » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:40 am

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Fascist
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Federation of Ravnalis


Head of State: President Delmar Dupéré
Head of Government: First Minister Grazian Carrasco

DEFCON: 5 4 3 2 1


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Voerdeland
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Postby Voerdeland » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:35 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Voerdeland wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
|N---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------N|
We are an anarchistic feudalism, thus we have absolute freedom, as well as autocratic lords ruling their lands however they wish, best of both worlds I say!

How can you call yourself "a free nation", if your "social norms" are more oppresive than the laws of most countries?
How can you call yourself "a free nation", if one's gender determines his/her future?

No, he is an Anarchy

He isn't anarchy. There are two definitions of Anarchy:
1. Lack of government
2. Lack of hierarchy
Nicky has both government and hierarchy

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:09 pm

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Fascist
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Postby Geckocidron » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:23 pm

Anarchy----------------Complete Democracy By the People --------------------Facist
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