Tiandi Regional Sign-up Thread [OLD THREAD, DON'T POST]

[Arumdaum]

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Tiandi is the union of Heaven (天) and Earth (地), and all which they encompass.

A heavenly, celestial world located in a far-off section of the NS universe, Tiandi is home to a myriad of cultures, religions, and political systems. A rarity among NS roleplay and worldbuilding regions, it presents an alternate world in which East Asian societies came to create a new, Confucian-dominated world order.

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Regional Discussion Thread

Tiandi is an MT world dedicated to realism, a planet cut off from the rest of the NS universe. One main thing differentiates Tiandi from other RP regions, and that is that in Tiandi's history, East Asian nations, rather than European nations, were the first to colonize, industrialize, and for a while dominate the globe.

Try to make your claim look interesting. Try not to 'stick' to the coast or claim all the empty land in an area. Coasts are often premium territory, and so 'Chile' shaped nations that may landlock others are discouraged whereas incredibly large claims will be moderated. Culture should also play a role and consider your nation's cultural background/influences when staking a claim (second map above).

Think about your population when compared to real life nations. Generally speaking, the more economically powerful your state is, the lower its population should be. In addition to being a useful game mechanic, this loose rule is also applicable to real life somewhat, whereby countries with the highest standard of living commonly endure stagnating or declining birth rates. Please consider your military manpower, both active and reserve combined.

Nations with a medium to low GDP are far more likely to be awarded larger claims (with larger populations if they so wish). Richer nations tend to be relatively small, with a few exceptions. Though I won't be adhereing to this rule vehemently, it does provide a guideline - I won't be as picky about a small nation's stats as I will be about a large nation's stats.

The median Gross Domestic Product (PPP adjusted) per capita in the world is ~$10,000 Intl. Upper limits are flexible within reason: for example, South Korea is a hyper-developed, populous, and one of the largest economies on earth. It accomplishes this with a GDP (PPP) per capita of $36,000 intl. By comparison, the USA enjoys a GDP (PPP) Per Capita around $54,000 intl. Very small nations with resource-driven economies (such as petrostates) may approach higher levels. However, modesty's always appreciated, and poorly developed larger claims may not get away with very high GDPs.

History also plays a significant role in what Tiandi's countries are like, including the shapes and sizes of different countries, GDP per capita, and what languages are spoken where. Please note that any nations should be willing to alter their nations in accordance with established Tiandi IC development.

Remember that Tiandi in its entirety is roughly the size of Earth, while there is roughly 10% less available land.

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[color=#40BFFF][size=150][b]NATION APPLICATION[/b][/size][/color]

[b]Shortform name[/b]:
[b]Real life culture influence[/b]:
[b]Real life culture of former colonizer[/b]: (if applicable)
[b]Population[/b]:
[b]GDP (PPP) per capita[/b]:
[b]GDP (nominal) per capita[/b]:
[b]Military manpower (active/reserve)[/b]:
[b]Language(s)[/b]:
[b]Nation description[/b]:
[b]Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?[/b]:
[b]Main nation on NS[/b]:
[b]Link to map claim (optional)[/b]:
[b]How did you find out about Tiandi? (optional)[/b]:

• Please refrain from creating a nation with a GDP (either nominal or PPP) of over $3 trillion. This doesn't mean you should try to get as close to this number as possible.
• Please refrain from claiming a population of over 100 million people.
• Place your claim in an area of the world that corresponds with the cultural map.
• European colonial offshoots (America/Canada/Australia analogues) will be rejected.
• Only East Asian nations may currently have colonies; those colonies must be far-flung and tiny.

List of Countries by Population
List of Countries by GDP (PPP) Per Capita
List of Countries by GDP (nominal) per capita
List of Countries by Military Personnel
List of Countries by Area

[Sabara]

Bump.

[Sevatetland]

Shortform name: Sevatetland
Real life culture influence: late 19th century Russia
Real life culture of former colonizer: (if applicable) n/a
Population: 10 million at present
GDP (PPP) per capita:
GDP (nominal) per capita:10,100
Military manpower (active/reserve): 120,000
Language(s): English and Russian
Additional info:
Link to claim example (optional): I am on mobile at present, but would like A part of the west Eurasian island with as little coast as possible.

[Sabara]

Shortform name: Sevatetland
Real life culture influence: late 19th century Russia
Real life culture of former colonizer: (if applicable) n/a
Population: 10 million at present
GDP (PPP) per capita:
GDP (nominal) per capita:10,100
Military manpower (active/reserve): 120,000
Language(s): English and Russian
Additional info:
Link to claim example (optional): I am on mobile at present, but would like A part of the west Eurasian island with as little coast as possible.

(*using tiandi mod powers here*)
Accepted, we'll work with you on your GDP PPP per capita, and talk a bit about your history.

EDIT: Nice job for being on a mobile phone too! That's pretty difficult to type all that up :s
EDIT#2: Wait, nope, reverse what I just said about acceptance. Arum has something to say

[Arumdaum]

Shortform name: Sevatetland
Real life culture influence: late 19th century Russia
Real life culture of former colonizer: (if applicable) n/a
Population: 10 million at present
GDP (PPP) per capita:
GDP (nominal) per capita:10,100
Military manpower (active/reserve): 120,000
Language(s): English and Russian
Additional info:
Link to claim example (optional): I am on mobile at present, but would like A part of the west Eurasian island with as little coast as possible.

Ah, sorry, but Tiandi doesn't use NS stats. You make them up entirely, and they should stay stable as you RP. How large would you like to be? How far north? Would you prefer being landlocked?

Also, how is it like late-19th century Russia? Can you give some more information about your nation? I understand this is on mobile, and you didn't fill out the entire app, so I'll consider this app to be WIP.

[Sevatetland]

Shortform name: Sevatetland
Real life culture influence: late 19th century Russia
Real life culture of former colonizer: (if applicable) n/a
Population: 10 million at present
GDP (PPP) per capita:
GDP (nominal) per capita:10,100
Military manpower (active/reserve): 120,000
Language(s): English and Russian
Additional info:
Link to claim example (optional): I am on mobile at present, but would like A part of the west Eurasian island with as little coast as possible.

Ah, sorry, but Tiandi doesn't use NS stats. You make them up entirely, and they should stay stable as you RP. How large would you like to be? How far north? Would you prefer being landlocked?

Also, how is it like late-19th century Russia? Can you give some more information about your nation? I understand this is on mobile, and you didn't fill out the entire app, so I'll consider this app to be WIP.

I understand it does not use them, I chose them from personal preference. I wish to be a small nation, as I am tired of being one of the larger players on the international scene.
I would like to be as far north as possible, but I will leave the exacts of placement up to you in order to make it easier on you.

As for gdp you and I can discuss that in order to work something out.

It is similar to it in terms mostly of culture, but also in government. I have written a Factbook on my culture that you may view, as I do not feel like it is necessary to completely retype it here. If there is anything else please telegram me and I will be happy to comply.

[Arumdaum]

Ah, sorry, but Tiandi doesn't use NS stats. You make them up entirely, and they should stay stable as you RP. How large would you like to be? How far north? Would you prefer being landlocked?

Also, how is it like late-19th century Russia? Can you give some more information about your nation? I understand this is on mobile, and you didn't fill out the entire app, so I'll consider this app to be WIP.

I understand it does not use them, I chose them from personal preference. I wish to be a small nation, as I am tired of being one of the larger players on the international scene.
I would like to be as far north as possible, but I will leave the exacts of placement up to you in order to make it easier on you.

As for gdp you and I can discuss that in order to work something out.

It is similar to it in terms mostly of culture, but also in government. I have written a Factbook on my culture that you may view, as I do not feel like it is necessary to completely retype it here. If there is anything else please telegram me and I will be happy to comply.

Ah, that's good! We need more small nations.

Awesome.

What kind of GDP per capita were you hoping of having? Since it was largely nomadic until recently, and also since it's largely based off of 19th-century Russia, are you fine with the GDP per capita only being around a thousand or a few thousand dollars?

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Is there a Middle East in Tiandi?

[Arumdaum]

Is there a Middle East in Tiandi?

The "West Asian" portion of the cultural map is for Middle Eastern and North African nations.

Sorry if it wasn't clear - that map was sort of hastily put together.

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: I don't know. I'll need someone to be my colonizer first
Population: 11/12 million
GDP (PPP) per capita: I'd like some help with that
GDP (nominal) per capita: See above
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

[Arumdaum]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: I don't know. I'll need someone to be my colonizer first
Population: 11/12 million
GDP (PPP) per capita: I'd like some help with that
GDP (nominal) per capita: See above
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

GDP per capita is your GDP (the value of all the goods and services produced in your nation in a single year) divided by the amount of people in your country. High GDP per capitas signify higher living standards, whereas lower GDP per capitas generally signify lower living standards (wealth inequality can skew this quite a bit, though).

The very wealthy nations in the world generally have a GDP per capita number over $30k, while the global median is ~$11,000. Poorer nations generally have a GDP per capita much lower than that.

The area you're claiming is roughly ten times the size of Israel. Would you like to adjust anything based on this information (keeping things the same is also fine).

Would you mind having formerly been colonized by a Korean nation? Korean will probably be this region's English, but I'm not entirely sure yet, as we have a lot of Mandarin speakers in the region, and a former global Japanese empire (although Jeongmi, the Korean nation, will also historically have had a global empire).

Don't worry! There's no need the change the Judaism or being Israelites.

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: I don't know. I'll need someone to be my colonizer first
Population: 11/12 million
GDP (PPP) per capita: I'd like some help with that
GDP (nominal) per capita: See above
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

GDP per capita is your GDP (the value of all the goods and services produced in your nation in a single year) divided by the amount of people in your country. High GDP per capitas signify higher living standards, whereas lower GDP per capitas generally signify lower living standards (wealth inequality can skew this quite a bit, though).

The very wealthy nations in the world generally have a GDP per capita number over $30k, while the global median is ~$11,000. Poorer nations generally have a GDP per capita much lower than that.

The area you're claiming is roughly ten times the size of Israel. Would you like to adjust anything based on this information (keeping things the same is also fine).

Would you mind having formerly been colonized by a Korean nation? Korean will probably be this region's English, but I'm not entirely sure yet, as we have a lot of Mandarin speakers in the region, and a former global Japanese empire (although Jeongmi, the Korean nation, will also historically have had a global empire).

Oh okay. And no, I was thinking of Ephraim Manasseh to be sparsely populated, and I'll take Korean.

[Arumdaum]

Oh okay. And no, I was thinking of Ephraim Manasseh to be sparsely populated, and I'll take Korean.

Ah, okay. That's good.

Do you have any idea what you want your GDP per capita to be like?

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Oh okay. And no, I was thinking of Ephraim Manasseh to be sparsely populated, and I'll take Korean.

Ah, okay. That's good.

Do you have any idea what you want your GDP per capita to be like?

Moderately wealthy. We aren't über rich but we are pretty wealthy.

[Arumdaum]

Ah, okay. That's good.

Do you have any idea what you want your GDP per capita to be like?

Moderately wealthy. We aren't über rich but we are pretty wealthy.

Would you be fine with a nominal GDP per capita of $19,297 and a PPP GDP per capita of $23,118? That's pretty moderately wealthy.

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Moderately wealthy. We aren't über rich but we are pretty wealthy.

Would you be fine with a nominal GDP per capita of $19,297 and a PPP GDP per capita of $23,118? That's pretty moderately wealthy.

That's fine by me.

[Arumdaum]

Would you be fine with a nominal GDP per capita of $19,297 and a PPP GDP per capita of $23,118? That's pretty moderately wealthy.

That's fine by me.

Awesome!

Can you post a new app with updated stats for me to accept?

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: A Korean nation
Population: 12.05 million
GDP (PPP) per capita: $23,118
GDP (nominal) per capita: $19,297
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, Korean/English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

[Arumdaum]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: A Korean nation
Population: 11/12 million
GDP (PPP) per capita: $23,118
GDP (nominal) per capita: $19,297
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, Korean/English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

Eek, no wait, can you be more specific with population! Sorry about that! Totally forgot about that.

[Ephraim-Manasseh]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: A Korean nation
Population: 11/12 million
GDP (PPP) per capita: $23,118
GDP (nominal) per capita: $19,297
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, Korean/English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

Eek, no wait, can you be more specific with population! Sorry about that! Totally forgot about that.

12.05 million.

[Arumdaum]

Shortform name: Ephraim-Manasseh
Real life culture influence: Israelite
Real life culture of former colonizer: A Korean nation
Population: 112,050,000
GDP (PPP) per capita: $23,118
GDP (nominal) per capita: $19,297
Military manpower (active/reserve): Active military = 176,500 Reserve military = 456,000 Paramilitary (Sicarii, Zealots etc) = 8,000 Total = 649,500
Language(s): Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, Korean/English (or the equivalents.)
Nation description: A heavily religious, conservative Jewish nation.
Link to map claim (optional): In green
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Well yes but the only things I am not changing is Israelite and Judaism.

Accepted!

[Sevatetland]

I understand it does not use them, I chose them from personal preference. I wish to be a small nation, as I am tired of being one of the larger players on the international scene.
I would like to be as far north as possible, but I will leave the exacts of placement up to you in order to make it easier on you.

As for gdp you and I can discuss that in order to work something out.

It is similar to it in terms mostly of culture, but also in government. I have written a Factbook on my culture that you may view, as I do not feel like it is necessary to completely retype it here. If there is anything else please telegram me and I will be happy to comply.

Ah, that's good! We need more small nations.

Awesome.

What kind of GDP per capita were you hoping of having? Since it was largely nomadic until recently, and also since it's largely based off of 19th-century Russia, are you fine with the GDP per capita only being around a thousand or a few thousand dollars?

It shall be 1250$ does your nation have a set currency, like that of the euro zone?

[Carquem]

Shortform name: Carquem
Real life culture influence: North American indigenous culture, particularly that of the Pacific Northwest
Real life culture of former colonizer: Korean, Japanese
Population: 19,273,105
GDP (PPP) per capita: $39,378
GDP (nominal) per capita: $41,103
Military manpower (active/reserve): 81,442 active and 121,403 reserve, for a total force of 202,845.
Language(s): Korean, Japanese
Nation description: A more northerly, geographically expansive nation, with terrain ranging from dense temperate rainforest to semi-arid plains at the foothills of enormous mountains. The weather can range from very warm in summers to brutally cold in winters, natural resources are a major part of the economy, and the culture is split between Korean-speakers and Japanese-speakers, a reflection of the old colonial masters. In addition, the monarchy arose when a family member of one of those colonial masters' royal families split from that family and relocated to that nation's prime colony, assisting in a war of independence. The government is a federal one, with the country divided into six provinces and a federal district encompassing the city of Hanseong and several suburbs.
Link to map claim (optional): Here, with "東藍國" text.
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Yes. I completely retconned my previous history in another region to fit the guidelines here, and I am willing to do it again.

[Sabara]

Shortform name: Carquem
Real life culture influence: North American indigenous culture, particularly that of the Pacific Northwest
Real life culture of former colonizer: Korean, Japanese
Population: 19,273,105
GDP (PPP) per capita: $39,378
GDP (nominal) per capita: $41,103
Military manpower (active/reserve): 81,442 active and 121,403 reserve, for a total force of 202,845.
Language(s): Korean, Japanese
Nation description: A more northerly, geographically expansive nation, with terrain ranging from dense temperate rainforest to semi-arid plains at the foothills of enormous mountains. The weather can range from very warm in summers to brutally cold in winters, natural resources are a major part of the economy, and the culture is split between Korean-speakers and Japanese-speakers, a reflection of the old colonial masters. In addition, the monarchy arose when a family member of one of those colonial masters' royal families split from that family and relocated to that nation's prime colony, assisting in a war of independence. The government is a federal one, with the country divided into six provinces and a federal district encompassing the city of Hanseong and several suburbs.
Link to map claim (optional): Here, with "東藍國" text.
Are you willing to drastically alter your nation in order to fit with Tiandi canon?: Yes. I completely retconned my previous history in another region to fit the guidelines here, and I am willing to do it again.

Could you lower the GDP per capita and ppp a tad? Maybe around 30,000?

Also, what Pacific Northwest native cultures are you modeling this off? The Salish? Nootka? Inuit? Please be a bit more specific. Other than that, it looks pretty kewl.

[Carquem]

1) Would $30,378 for PPP and $32,103 for nominal suffice?
2) Several. For the most part, it's based off of First Nation cultures in the Canadian province of British Columbia, namely the Nuxalk, Sliammon, Tsilhqot'in, Nootka, and St'at'imc.