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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:32 pm

Well, here's a diagram found in the advance proof of my upcoming renovation of my military factbook.

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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:34 pm

Celibrae wrote:LAV-III or Boxer*

*Link doesn't work with URL tags (brackets)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_(a ... ng_vehicle)

Edit: I'm asking which one you prefer


Boxer MRAV by far. MOWAG Piranha derivatives are WHEELEDDEATHTRUCKS.
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Postby Gawdzendia » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:45 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Celibrae wrote:LAV-III or Boxer*

*Link doesn't work with URL tags (brackets)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_(a ... ng_vehicle)

Edit: I'm asking which one you prefer


Boxer MRAV by far. MOWAG Piranha derivatives are WHEELEDDEATHTRUCKS.

I think you jut called most of my native Canuckistans IFV's death trucks.
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:53 pm

Gawdzendia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
Boxer MRAV by far. MOWAG Piranha derivatives are WHEELEDDEATHTRUCKS.

I think you jut called most of my native Canuckistans IFV's death trucks.
I don't think I can love you anymore.


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Postby Parhe » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:54 pm

Okay I have a very common question that I must ask. I did search the thread for it and found it earlier asked by Romic and answered by a handful of very helpful people, but overall it was basically a "depends on the situation" type of thing. The question is over military personnel, both active and reserves. The nation at the moment is largely based off of South Korea (it's "North Korea" is a collection of states that are smaller but very cohesive and altogether similar sized in terms of population and resources) (it is also similar historically in terms of demographics with large families of around six to eight children being the norm), however the culture has evolved beyond (beyond to signify it once did have but no longer does, not that it is superior) the differentiation of the sexes (in that masculinity and femininity are not associated with a sex and are not seen as opposing) so mandatory conscription of two years is for all sexes physically and mentally able. Of course, there are also professional members of the military (not sure if I used that term entirely correctly) and the military heritage is similar to the one found in say Texas.

What would be a good rough estimate as the percentage of the population; would this system break the economy or is it passable? Related question, does the absolute size of the military ever matter? I always assumed the relative size of the military was what mattered in terms of the country still being able to function.
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:55 pm

Parhe wrote:Okay I have a very common question that I must ask. I did search the thread for it and found it earlier asked by Romic and answered by a handful of very helpful people, but overall it was basically a "depends on the situation" type of thing. The question is over military personnel, both active and reserves. The nation at the moment is largely based off of South Korea (it's "North Korea" is a collection of states that are smaller but very cohesive and altogether similar sized in terms of population and resources) (it is also similar historically in terms of demographics with large families of around six to eight children being the norm), however the culture has evolved beyond (beyond to signify it once did have but no longer does, not that it is superior) the differentiation of the sexes (in that masculinity and femininity are not associated with a sex and are not seen as opposing) so mandatory conscription of two years is for all sexes physically and mentally able. Of course, there are also professional members of the military (not sure if I used that term entirely correctly) and the military heritage is similar to the one found in say Texas.

What would be a good rough estimate as the percentage of the population; would this system break the economy or is it passable? Related question, does the absolute size of the military ever matter? I always assumed the relative size of the military was what mattered in terms of the country still being able to function.


One percent seems good for a conscript force, usually.

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Postby Gawdzendia » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:09 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Gawdzendia wrote:I think you jut called most of my native Canuckistans IFV's death trucks.
I don't think I can love you anymore.


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I honestly can't tell if this is meant to prove the LAV-III is a death truck or to placate me with a friggin cool sculpture.
...I think I've been placated in either case, carry on NSMilRealism.
NATIONSTATES STATS USED IN THEIR ENTIRETY
GOVERNANCE: Chamber of Estates / Presidential Council
GOVERNMENT: Citizen Republic
President: Alexander Christensen

CAPITAL: Adonia City
OFFICIAL LANGUAGES: German, French, English
CURRENCY: Gawdzendian Dollar (GZD)

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1 - PEACETIME
2 - HEIGHTENED AWARENESS
3 - EARLY MOBILIZATION
4 - MOBILIZATION
5 - SYMMETRICAL WARFARE
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:10 pm

Gawdzendia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
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I honestly can't tell if this is meant to prove the LAV-III is a death truck or to placate me with a friggin cool sculpture.
...I think I've been placated in either case, carry on NSMilRealism.

Placation. I saw that sculpture at my local art gallery some weeks back.
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Postby Atlantica » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:53 am

What wheeled APC would be most effective for a military with a capable ground force, but with large territory?
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Postby Lamoni » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:58 am

Atlantica wrote:What wheeled APC would be most effective for a military with a capable ground force, but with large territory?


In my opinion, that would be the Patria AMV. It is so good that the Taliban tend to run when Patria AMV's enter an area in Afghanistan.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:00 am

Take Chieftain. Convert to HIFV like this one. Win?
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Postby Lamoni » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:08 am

He asked for a wheeled vehicle, Purp.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:17 am

Lamoni wrote:He asked for a wheeled vehicle, Purp.

My question is unrelated to him. Hence me not quoting.
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Postby Laywenrania » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:32 am

Atlantica wrote:What wheeled APC would be most effective for a military with a capable ground force, but with large territory?

Clearly Patria AMV, Laywenrania also uses it, so it has to be good :roll:
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Postby Questers » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:54 am

The Boxer is dumb.

The LAV is a great vehicle.

So is the Patria AMV. I use Rosomaks in my Army ^.^
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:23 am

Questers wrote:The Boxer is dumb.

The LAV is a great vehicle.

So is the Patria AMV. I use Rosomaks in my Army ^.^

I agree on the Boxer. I like the idea they were going for, but the thing is just too damn big. I simply cannot see it being easy to transport, or being g all that much more useful than a much smaller vehicle.

What makes the Patria better than it's competitors?
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Postby Korva » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:48 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Questers wrote:The Boxer is dumb.

The LAV is a great vehicle.

So is the Patria AMV. I use Rosomaks in my Army ^.^

I agree on the Boxer. I like the idea they were going for, but the thing is just too damn big. I simply cannot see it being easy to transport, or being g all that much more useful than a much smaller vehicle.

What makes the Patria better than it's competitors?

Polan will charge into battle atop a Rosomak when it wipes away the Russian scourge.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:58 am

Korva wrote:Polan will charge into battle atop a Rosomak when it wipes away the Russian scourge.

I was under the impression that Russia was to be riding atop BTR-80s when it wipes away Polish scourge.



Are there any technologies likely to replace the helicopter by the early to mid 22nd century?
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Immoren » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:59 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:What makes the Patria better than it's competitors?


Being of Finnish automotive engineering. *nods*

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Postby Stahn » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:53 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Korva wrote:Polan will charge into battle atop a Rosomak when it wipes away the Russian scourge.

I was under the impression that Russia was to be riding atop BTR-80s when it wipes away Polish scourge.



Are there any technologies likely to replace the helicopter by the early to mid 22nd century?


Perhaps not completely but for most roles I am assuming yes.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:09 am

Stahn wrote:Perhaps not completely but for most roles I am assuming yes.

Most probably. Unfortunately, I'm having a bitch of a time trying to figure out what they may be, as most searches for "future helicopter replacements" and the like direct me to spare part stores for RC jobbers.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Roski » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:13 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Stahn wrote:Perhaps not completely but for most roles I am assuming yes.

Most probably. Unfortunately, I'm having a bitch of a time trying to figure out what they may be, as most searches for "future helicopter replacements" and the like direct me to spare part stores for RC jobbers.


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but here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_military_aircraft_of_the_United_States
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:00 am

Roski wrote:22nd Century?
we don't even know what countries will still exist 85 years from now.

Eh, unless something utterly stupid happens in the next decade or so, I imagine the countries will be exactly the same.


So, for the foreseeable future, the only major change may be the inclusion of ducted fans. Alright, that sounds about like what I had in mind.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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