Order No. 27 is the most glorious movie ever made
Welcome to the Infantry Discussion Thread: the glorious descendant of the 'Main Military Weapon' series of threads.
Unlike the previous series of threads, this thread Is for the discussion of of your nations military's small arms, body armor, uniform, communications gear, and other general equipment pertaining to the infantry. All tech levels are welcome, but please understand that this thread tends to be geared towards modern and post modern tech, so designs operating on unobtainium or other FT wankery are bound to be criticized from a realistic perspective. If having your designs evaluated for a realistic perspective does not appeal to you, it is advisable you do not post here. There is nothing wrong with past-tech, fantasy tech, or any other non-modern technology based nation posting a design, and you are welcome to post here, but be prepared for the inevitable "That won't work because..." post. These are not meant to offend you, they are meant to teach you. If you do not require education, simply turn your self into the nearest secrete police official (leave the thread).
If you do post a design here, you agree that it will be criticized by the liberated people of this thread. You are under no obligation to change the design based on this criticism, but continuing to argue in the face of facts will only lead to defeat at the hands of the invincible thread regulars. Further, if you do not know, ask. If someone asks and you do not know the answer, don't lie, admit your ignorance. Speak on subjects you know, don't attempt to bullshit. Finally, there are plenty of people in this thread, both new and old, who have knowledge regarding a vast array of military technologies, try to learn from them. Dispute if you will, but be prepared to use facts and evidence to back up your claims.
"Because it's magic" "I'm FT lawl" and "because I say so" are not valid arguments, they are the lies of pigdog imperialists who only wish to destroy the glorious IDT. Posters, if a player makes aid argument, drop it. These and other non-answers demonstrate that the poster has no desire to learn, therefore, you can not teach.
Avoid excessive posting of vehicles, regardless of their affect on infantry deployment, this is an infantry thread first and foremost, we have vehicle and aircraft threads for those.House rules (Read these to avoid thoughtcrime)
~ Originally by Risen Britannia, modified by Transnapastain and again by Aqizithiuda, and again by Puzikas, and again by Kour.
1: Read the OP. As you can probably guess from the title this thread has been round a while, the OP contains all allot some of the knowledge gained from previous iterations.
2: By posting you are accepting that they WILL be criticized, however it is up to you whether you listen (though you aren't going to make friends if you don't).
3: If you do offer criticism, make sure it's constructive, and don't assume that the person you're criticising knows what's wrong. "That won't work", "That's completely wrong" "What the hell is that abomination" and similar comments aren't helpful or constructive. Tell people why whatever is being designed won't work, especially if they ask you to explain. Saying "lul, an idiot can see why that won't work" or "because *insert obscure hint that only helps if the person you're talking to has the exact same set of knowledge as you do" and similar things will only lead to flame wars, trolling and people getting banned. Additionally, be aware that some forms of realism-based criticism aren't always relevant. If someone wants to know how to 'x' in PMT/FT/FanT, and they're clearly set on having 'y', then don't keep going on about 'y'.
4:Don't be a dick.
5: Be civil, site rules still apply. Due to past incidents we have Mods (Transnapastain) who is a regular here.
6: Whilst not encouraged off topic posts are allowed to an extent, EG you wont get a warning if you post a jet or tank etc... Just remember this thread is for infantry equipment, including but not limited to small arms, armor and uniforms.
7: While the F&NI sub forum is in-character, most posts in technology discussions threads are OOC in nature. IC statements can be made but are not the norm and may not be read as in character.
8: Excepting page topping "gun porn", or "infantry porn", large images will be placed in spoilers. "Large" will be determined by moderation. If you are asked to place images in spoilers, please do so.
9: Be extra nice to the eternal president Transnapastain. Or face reeducation.
10: No feeding thetrollsenemies of the people.
11: Respect is earned, and your post probably isn't as funny as you think it is.
12: Do not fill up the thread by constantly posting the same thing over and over again. If you have a problem with another player, please place them on your ignore list.
13: Post gun-porn if you're the first poster on a new page! Try to make it relevant to the page if at all possible (e.g. L85A1 on page 85, or M98 on page 398).
GOLDEN RULE
Do not talk about politics, I don''t care if you were just replying to someone, don't do it!DO NOT DISCUSS POLITICS!
Any form of gun control discussion is not allowed here, take that to general. Anyone found to be discussing politics will be sent to a reeducation camp.
Information on the "AK-47" and family courtesy of Spreewerke
more "AK-47" infromation from Spreewerke
Information on Body armor From Puzikas
Information on Submachine guns, also from Puzikas
why the 5.45X39 SKS doesn't exist, from Puzikas
An Explanation of Bullet Wounding Effects, by Puzikas
4.6x30 H&K, 5.7x28mm FN, and 9x19, by Puzikas
Bullet Design Calculator
(Please Note: meplat diameter should be, at minimum 0.15 times the diameter of the projectile, the boat tail angle should be not less than 7 degrees, the length of the projectile should not exceed 6 times the diameter of the projectile, there should be at least 5mm of body between the end of the ogive and the start of the boat tail, 10.4 is the specific gravity for FMJ projectiles not the default 11.4, M43 style steel core projectiles have a SG of 8.3, DBP10 steel cored rounds with an air pocket have a SG of 8.5, copper bullets have a SG of 8.9, steel cored lead free projectiles have a SG of 8.2, 7N6 style projectiles have a SG of 7.6, lead core projectiles with a large airgrap have a SG of 9.1, and M855 style steel tipped projectiles have a SG of 9.4)
Internal Ballistics Calculator
External Ballistics Calculator
Custom MilTech Oriented Search Engine from the NSDraftroom
DTIC.mil Search Engine
Introduction to Magazines and Clips - Design, History, and Function
Operator Hotline
Previous IDT Threads
NS Infantry discussion thread
NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II
NS Infantry discussion thread, Mk. II*
NS Infantry Discussion Thread, Model 4
The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1
MMW, The glorious eternal forerunner to this thread
MMW Part 12
MMW R11
MMW A10
MMW Type-09
MMW Pattern VIII
MMW MOD-7
MMW Mk VI
MMW Mk V
MMW Mk IV
MMW MkII (Pt2)
MMW MkIII
MMW MkII
MMW
link to the NS Infantry IRC (not managed by Trans nor do he have anything to do with it.)
Look here for updates in the near future.
Have fun.
This OP originally by Black Hand, modified by Transnapastain, reposted and modified again by Aqizithiuda, then more by Puzikas, then more the filthy imperialist pigdog Kour before finally being retaken by the glorious Republic of Padnak. All images are property of glorious True Korea.
Green Norse-based tunic, Stahlhelm/pickelhaube/roman helmet hybrid, WWI German Machine Gunner's armor, belt with pouches and sword bayonet and stuff, and boots based on hunting boots
Snikmorder Líkan 1915, 8.5x63mm
Sigrún Shipkiller, Undecided Caliber
Stígander Vélkarabin and Vélgevär, 8.5x63
Sigrún-Björnsson Þungur Vélgevär
Arnbjörg Líkan 1912, Undecided 11mm cartridge
