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T-72 ejects spent stubs automatically IIRC.

It did.

I assumed it'd be weird if it breached NBC to do so.
Though on recollection I think it does. Which is kind of weird.

Should I or should I not create an OTH radar capable of being fitted to a fleet of utility vehicles, then networked to a central vehicle?

Obviously this'd be for licenced production by Lyras or someone, so he can make more money off of II players.

Yukonastan wrote:Should I or should I not create an OTH radar capable of being fitted to a fleet of utility vehicles, then networked to a central vehicle?

Obviously this'd be for licenced production by Lyras or someone, so he can make more money off of II players.

Just take a que from Asians and call your company Liras with an i.

Imperializt Russia wrote:It did.

I assumed it'd be weird if it breached NBC to do so.
Though on recollection I think it does. Which is kind of weird.

t-72 poops out of here


I imagine the overpressure is enough for the minimal amount of time that hatch is open.

Orussia wrote:

Padnak wrote:
It'd just be easier to have them roll away from the loader and under the gunner/tc where they can easily be disposed of and won't be a problem

Or a better idea, have some sort of deflector plate behind the gun so that they drop into a receptacle below the breech?
Kind of like this except much bigger.
That way you don't have to break NBC just to keep giant hunks of brass from rolling around on the floor.

I don't mean to quell your thunder but tanks have had this feature of a brass catching bag for many decades.
Not everyone uses them of course, but they do exist.

Hey, does anyone have the loadout of the Leopard 2A6?

IE: Of the 42 shells, how many were what type of APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, et cetera.

What are the dimensions of those shells, or at the very least of the cartridge case itself?

Yukonastan wrote:Hey, does anyone have the loadout of the Leopard 2A6?

IE: Of the 42 shells, how many were what type of APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, et cetera.

What are the dimensions of those shells, or at the very least of the cartridge case itself?

That's related to the SOP.

San-Silvacian wrote:

Yukonastan wrote:Hey, does anyone have the loadout of the Leopard 2A6?

IE: Of the 42 shells, how many were what type of APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, et cetera.

What are the dimensions of those shells, or at the very least of the cartridge case itself?

That's related to the SOP.

And now a real answer please. On average, of the 42 shells loaded into a Leopard 2A6, how many are of what type?

And the second question: For the Rheinmetall L/44's ammo, what are the case dimensions?

Sahrani South wrote:Would a M2 Bradley outfitted with a 35mm gun + FGM148 work ?

HAHAH A 35MM an GAU-8 is 30mm and thats the most powerful gun in the world .

Yuketobaniac wrote:

Sahrani South wrote:Would a M2 Bradley outfitted with a 35mm gun + FGM148 work ?

HAHAH A 35MM an GAU-8 is 30mm and thats the most powerful gun in the world .

You are trolling, right? I don't know whether this post is trolling or just stupid.

The most powerful gun ever fired in combat was either the Paris Gun (WWI) or the Schwerer Gustav (WWII). The latter is a seven hundred millimetre gun.

The GAU-8 is one of the most powerful guns fitted to modern jet aircraft, but still doesn't have a thing on the 105mm artillery cannon, or even the 40mm Bofors cannon, both of which are fitted to the AC-130 Spectre slash Spooky turboprop-powered transport/attack aircraft.

However, it is FAR from the most powerful gun ever fired in combat, let alone even devised.

Yukonastan wrote:

Yuketobaniac wrote:HAHAH A 35MM an GAU-8 is 30mm and thats the most powerful gun in the world .

You are trolling, right? I don't know whether this post is trolling or just stupid.

The most powerful gun ever fired in combat was either the Paris Gun (WWI) or the Schwerer Gustav (WWII). The latter is a seven hundred millimetre gun.

The GAU-8 is one of the most powerful guns fitted to modern jet aircraft, but still doesn't have a thing on the 105mm artillery cannon, or even the 40mm Bofors cannon, both of which are fitted to the AC-130 Spectre slash Spooky turboprop-powered transport/attack aircraft.

However, it is FAR from the most powerful gun ever fired in combat, let alone even devised.

Define powerful.
Define gun.

Yukonastan wrote:

San-Silvacian wrote:
That's related to the SOP.

And now a real answer please. On average, of the 42 shells loaded into a Leopard 2A6, how many are of what type?

And the second question: For the Rheinmetall L/44's ammo, what are the case dimensions?

I believe you can find typical loads for the Abrams from some osprey books

I'll check my hard drive when I get home

Yukonastan wrote:

San-Silvacian wrote:
That's related to the SOP.

And now a real answer please. On average, of the 42 shells loaded into a Leopard 2A6, how many are of what type?

And the second question: For the Rheinmetall L/44's ammo, what are the case dimensions?

It's mission dependent. It just is.

Gallia- wrote:

Yukonastan wrote:
You are trolling, right? I don't know whether this post is trolling or just stupid.

The most powerful gun ever fired in combat was either the Paris Gun (WWI) or the Schwerer Gustav (WWII). The latter is a seven hundred millimetre gun.

The GAU-8 is one of the most powerful guns fitted to modern jet aircraft, but still doesn't have a thing on the 105mm artillery cannon, or even the 40mm Bofors cannon, both of which are fitted to the AC-130 Spectre slash Spooky turboprop-powered transport/attack aircraft.

However, it is FAR from the most powerful gun ever fired in combat, let alone even devised.

Define powerful.
Define gun.

Powerful: adjective. Having great power or strength. In the case of weapons, we'll assume that we're referring to muzzle energy in joules, or any orders of magnitude thereof.

Gun: noun. A weapon designed around a metal tube, from which projectiles are propelled by an explosive force. This typically makes a characteristic loud, sharp noise. In this case, this includes both guns that contain rifling, which stabilize their projectiles by imparting a centrifugal force on them using spiraled grooves in the barrel, as well as smoothbore guns, which do not stabilize their projectiles by imparting a centrifugal force on them using spiraled grooves in the barrel.

Yukonastan wrote:

Gallia- wrote:
Define powerful.
Define gun.

Powerful: adjective. Having great power or strength. In the case of weapons, we'll assume that we're referring to muzzle energy in joules, or any orders of magnitude thereof.

Gun: noun. A weapon designed around a metal tube, from which projectiles are propelled by an explosive force. This typically makes a characteristic loud, sharp noise. In this case, this includes both guns that contain rifling, which stabilize their projectiles by imparting a centrifugal force on them using spiraled grooves in the barrel, as well as smoothbore guns, which do not stabilize their projectiles by imparting a centrifugal force on them using spiraled grooves in the barrel.

1) Muzzle energy varies according to propellant and ammunition used. I was expecting a mathematical formula or formulae like real-life militaries use when describing "power".

2) I made a gun once. I put a firecracker in a tin can and it shot into the air.

Gallia- wrote:

Yukonastan wrote:
Powerful: adjective. Having great power or strength. In the case of weapons, we'll assume that we're referring to muzzle energy in joules, or any orders of magnitude thereof.

Gun: noun. A weapon designed around a metal tube, from which projectiles are propelled by an explosive force. This typically makes a characteristic loud, sharp noise. In this case, this includes both guns that contain rifling, which stabilize their projectiles by imparting a centrifugal force on them using spiraled grooves in the barrel, as well as smoothbore guns, which do not stabilize their projectiles by imparting a centrifugal force on them using spiraled grooves in the barrel.

1) Muzzle energy varies according to propellant and ammunition used. I was expecting a mathematical formula or formulae like real-life militaries use when describing "power".

2) I made a gun once. I put a firecracker in a tin can and it shot into the air.

1) Close enough of a definition for me to be able to estimate that the 70cm Schwerer Gustav is a more powerful gun than a 3cm Gun, Aircraft Unit 8 Avenger.

2) By definition it's a gun, then.

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Yukonastan wrote:
And now a real answer please. On average, of the 42 shells loaded into a Leopard 2A6, how many are of what type?

And the second question: For the Rheinmetall L/44's ammo, what are the case dimensions?

It's mission dependent. It just is.

I think it would be fair to assume he wants to know a typical load for a given nation and a given mission.

Korva wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:It's mission dependent. It just is.

I think it would be fair to assume he wants to know a typical load for a given nation and a given mission.

I'm going to assume the Bundeswehr had a number of proposed missions for their Leopard to undertake - as do the client states that bought them.
It's just far too subjective.

Not to mention, his application of what he wants to do will likely be different still.

Korva wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:It's mission dependent. It just is.

I think it would be fair to assume he wants to know a typical load for a given nation and a given mission.

Exactly what Korva asks. Assuming an average patrol/deterrent mission in the German countryside during the close of the Cold War, what can I reasonably expect the loadout of the Leopard 2A6 in Bundeswehr service to be?

Yukonastan wrote:

Gallia- wrote:
1) Muzzle energy varies according to propellant and ammunition used. I was expecting a mathematical formula or formulae like real-life militaries use when describing "power".

2) I made a gun once. I put a firecracker in a tin can and it shot into the air.

1) Close enough of a definition for me to be able to estimate that the 70cm Schwerer Gustav is a more powerful gun than a 3cm Gun, Aircraft Unit 8 Avenger.

2) By definition it's a gun, then.

1) Close enough only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

2) Maybe your absurd definition, but not a good definition.

Gallia- wrote:

Yukonastan wrote:
1) Close enough of a definition for me to be able to estimate that the 70cm Schwerer Gustav is a more powerful gun than a 3cm Gun, Aircraft Unit 8 Avenger.

2) By definition it's a gun, then.

1) Close enough only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

2) Maybe your absurd definition, but not a good definition.

1) Close enough for government work, in any case.

2) Google "Definition of Gun", and adjust the wording ever so slightly. That's the absurd definition that Google automatically gives me, and slash but it's close enough for the purpose.

Yukonastan wrote:

Gallia- wrote:
1) Muzzle energy varies according to propellant and ammunition used. I was expecting a mathematical formula or formulae like real-life militaries use when describing "power".

2) I made a gun once. I put a firecracker in a tin can and it shot into the air.

1) Close enough of a definition for me to be able to estimate that the 70cm Schwerer Gustav is a more powerful gun than a 3cm Gun, Aircraft Unit 8 Avenger.

2) By definition it's a gun, then.

800 mm. The gustav was a 80 cm railway gun. Not 700 mm.

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:

Yukonastan wrote:
1) Close enough of a definition for me to be able to estimate that the 70cm Schwerer Gustav is a more powerful gun than a 3cm Gun, Aircraft Unit 8 Avenger.

2) By definition it's a gun, then.

800 mm. The gustav was a 80 cm railway gun. Not 700 mm.

Thank you. Either way, still capable of firing a GAU-8 as a projectile.

Yukonastan wrote:

Gallia- wrote:
1) Close enough only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

2) Maybe your absurd definition, but not a good definition.

1) Close enough for government work, in any case.

2) Google "Definition of Gun", and adjust the wording ever so slightly. That's the absurd definition that Google automatically gives me, and slash but it's close enough for the purpose.

1) Government work involves a lot more maths.

2) Did I ever tell you about the guns I own?