The Atlasian Regional Geographic Society [Atlas only]

[Insaeldor]

So as far as the map goes... Maybe we could expand and add a new continent? Just an idea.

[The High Lords]

So as far as the map goes... Maybe we could expand and add a new continent? Just an idea.

That's in the discussion... I'm just not sure what it'll be like. How many bays, peninsulas, great lakes, etc... Big, little, etc. etc.

And what part of the map? Shall we extend it in some direction as to make room?

[Globus]

I've always thought we should severely limited the number of landlocked plots, because those are always the last taken. The same goes for miniscule sized plots; those are also rarely taken.

Allowing nations to draw their borders seems like it would be a mess. There's 80 nations, at least 40 active. How would we ever coordinate the drawing of such borders?

[Insaeldor]

So as far as the map goes... Maybe we could expand and add a new continent? Just an idea.

That's in the discussion... I'm just not sure what it'll be like. How many bays, peninsulas, great lakes, etc... Big, little, etc. etc.

And what part of the map? Shall we extend it in some direction as to make room?

Maybe a general expansion with some smaller new continents in the north, south, east and west.

I personally however feel that the north is lacking in land so maybe a new northern continent. Lots of fjords, maybe a big inlet and a slightly more boggy Lakeland in the southeast.

[Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan]

That's in the discussion... I'm just not sure what it'll be like. How many bays, peninsulas, great lakes, etc... Big, little, etc. etc.

And what part of the map? Shall we extend it in some direction as to make room?

Maybe a general expansion with some smaller new continents in the north, south, east and west.

I personally however feel that the north is lacking in land so maybe a new northern continent. Lots of fjords, maybe a big inlet and a slightly more boggy Lakeland in the southeast.

That would be good, but it could take the irrelevancy from Buralia.

[The United Regions]

If at all possible I would like to keep my place, though I am open to becoming a smaller nation in size, or changing my borders around to fit other nations needs.

[Republic of Vietnam]

Wait...
If we are allowed to have out own land, not drawn out...
*Gasps*
DIPS on irl Vietnam

So for my section, basically irl Indochina for the borders looks but I only want Vietnam. Would that be okay?

[Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan]

Wait...
If we are allowed to have out own land, not drawn out...
*Gasps*
DIPS on irl Vietnam

So for my section, basically irl Indochina for the borders looks but I only want Vietnam. Would that be okay?

I think we would draw out borders, not landmass. idk though, still being decided

[Republic of Vietnam]

Wait...
If we are allowed to have out own land, not drawn out...
*Gasps*
DIPS on irl Vietnam

So for my section, basically irl Indochina for the borders looks but I only want Vietnam. Would that be okay?

I think we would draw out borders, not landmass. idk though, still being decided

Alright

[Bratislav]

Allowing nations to draw their borders seems like it would be a mess. There's 80 nations, at least 40 active. How would we ever coordinate the drawing of such borders?

It would be a mess, I don't think this is a good idea. Just imagine every new nation has to 'draw' their country on the map. It will be a big headache, we should stick to the numbered-plot system for now.

[Bratislav]

Also, current borders in the Currente Continent cannot be changed, we have RPs going on that are based on the specific borders right now. Borders should be static and unchangeable, unless something is gained or lost via an RP.

[Viridisolum]

Allowing nations to draw their borders seems like it would be a mess. There's 80 nations, at least 40 active. How would we ever coordinate the drawing of such borders?

It would be a mess, I don't think this is a good idea. Just imagine every new nation has to 'draw' their country on the map. It will be a big headache, we should stick to the numbered-plot system for now.

I agree, I don't want Adampia carving my bottom.

[Bratislav]

Let's focus on making sure all the map are up-to-date. Both the blank-numbered ones, and the labelled ones. We will stick to the plot system for now.

[The New Lowlands]

Allowing nations to draw their borders seems like it would be a mess. There's 80 nations, at least 40 active. How would we ever coordinate the drawing of such borders?

It would be a mess, I don't think this is a good idea. Just imagine every new nation has to 'draw' their country on the map. It will be a big headache, we should stick to the numbered-plot system for now.

There's no need for an either-or decision here.

One big problem with the plot system is that it fails to accurately represent realistic sizes for certain nations: it's a given, for example, that countries formed by settlement colonialism will typically have much larger sizes than their colonising powers, whether they come from a single continent or more than one, or that more populous old-world countries will typically be of larger size than their less-populous cousins: India is bigger than Britain, Indonesia is bigger than France et cetera.

There also seems to be very little rhyme or reason with regards to cultures or linguistic groups being distributed across the continents, with Vietnam (an Austro-Asiatic culture) being next to Sveltlana (presumably some variation on Germanic.) There's a similar effect on climate.

Having a mapmaker or a team of mapmakers working together to process applications (which will include things like population size and population density – best not to include size, in my experience as Hemithea's mapmaker, because people will put down arbitrary or absurd figures, and population density might actually make them think about what their country's climate is like) will let them judge appropriately where to place nations according to the culture, climate, population size, and maybe economic factors they have: and we'll just leave the deciding the shape to them.

Of course, to do all this we're going to need an accurate scale for the map; we can either determine that 1px is equal to a given amount of square kilometres, or we can account for map projection (all the circles on that map are the same area adjusting for projection) although personally I'd recommend just not bothering with the latter.

[Bratislav]

It would be a mess, I don't think this is a good idea. Just imagine every new nation has to 'draw' their country on the map. It will be a big headache, we should stick to the numbered-plot system for now.

There's no need for an either-or decision here.

One big problem with the plot system is that it fails to accurately represent realistic sizes for certain nations: it's a given, for example, that countries formed by settlement colonialism will typically have much larger sizes than their colonising powers, whether they come from a single continent or more than one, or that more populous old-world countries will typically be of larger size than their less-populous cousins: India is bigger than Britain, Indonesia is bigger than France et cetera.

There also seems to be very little rhyme or reason with regards to cultures or linguistic groups being distributed across the continents, with Vietnam (an Austro-Asiatic culture) being next to Sveltlana (presumably some variation on Germanic.) There's a similar effect on climate.

Having a mapmaker or a team of mapmakers working together to process applications (which will include things like population size and population density – best not to include size, in my experience as Hemithea's mapmaker, because people will put down arbitrary or absurd figures, and population density might actually make them think about what their country's climate is like) will let them judge appropriately where to place nations according to the culture, climate, population size, and maybe economic factors they have: and we'll just leave the deciding the shape to them.

Of course, to do all this we're going to need an accurate scale for the map; we can either determine that 1px is equal to a given amount of square kilometres, or we can account for map projection (all the circles on that map are the same area adjusting for projection) although personally I'd recommend just not bothering with the latter.

re-organizng all of Atlas based on culture and history is near-impossible, given we have new members always coming and the fact that most borders cannot be changed given already established regional histories and RPs that have taken place. I'm not sure if this 'group of mapmapkers' will be able to process each an every application and diligently update the map. We don't even have the current map up-to-date, how is it expected that it will thus be updated upon each and every applicant?

[Viridisolum]

It would be a mess, I don't think this is a good idea. Just imagine every new nation has to 'draw' their country on the map. It will be a big headache, we should stick to the numbered-plot system for now.

There's no need for an either-or decision here.

One big problem with the plot system is that it fails to accurately represent realistic sizes for certain nations: it's a given, for example, that countries formed by settlement colonialism will typically have much larger sizes than their colonising powers, whether they come from a single continent or more than one, or that more populous old-world countries will typically be of larger size than their less-populous cousins: India is bigger than Britain, Indonesia is bigger than France et cetera.

There also seems to be very little rhyme or reason with regards to cultures or linguistic groups being distributed across the continents, with Vietnam (an Austro-Asiatic culture) being next to Sveltlana (presumably some variation on Germanic.) There's a similar effect on climate.

Having a mapmaker or a team of mapmakers working together to process applications (which will include things like population size and population density – best not to include size, in my experience as Hemithea's mapmaker, because people will put down arbitrary or absurd figures, and population density might actually make them think about what their country's climate is like) will let them judge appropriately where to place nations according to the culture, climate, population size, and maybe economic factors they have: and we'll just leave the deciding the shape to them.

Of course, to do all this we're going to need an accurate scale for the map; we can either determine that 1px is equal to a given amount of square kilometres, or we can account for map projection (all the circles on that map are the same area adjusting for projection) although personally I'd recommend just not bothering with the latter.

Indeed on racial groups, although there are efforts on making it well within the mixture of everybody's races.

[The New Lowlands]

There's no need for an either-or decision here.

One big problem with the plot system is that it fails to accurately represent realistic sizes for certain nations: it's a given, for example, that countries formed by settlement colonialism will typically have much larger sizes than their colonising powers, whether they come from a single continent or more than one, or that more populous old-world countries will typically be of larger size than their less-populous cousins: India is bigger than Britain, Indonesia is bigger than France et cetera.

There also seems to be very little rhyme or reason with regards to cultures or linguistic groups being distributed across the continents, with Vietnam (an Austro-Asiatic culture) being next to Sveltlana (presumably some variation on Germanic.) There's a similar effect on climate.

Having a mapmaker or a team of mapmakers working together to process applications (which will include things like population size and population density – best not to include size, in my experience as Hemithea's mapmaker, because people will put down arbitrary or absurd figures, and population density might actually make them think about what their country's climate is like) will let them judge appropriately where to place nations according to the culture, climate, population size, and maybe economic factors they have: and we'll just leave the deciding the shape to them.

Of course, to do all this we're going to need an accurate scale for the map; we can either determine that 1px is equal to a given amount of square kilometres, or we can account for map projection (all the circles on that map are the same area adjusting for projection) although personally I'd recommend just not bothering with the latter.

re-organizng all of Atlas based on culture and history is near-impossible, given we have new members always coming and the fact that most borders cannot be changed given already established regional histories and RPs that have taken place. I'm not sure if this 'group of mapmapkers' will be able to process each an every application and diligently update the map. We don't even have the current map up-to-date, how is it expected that it will thus be updated upon each and every applicant?

You could attempt to retain similar border shapes and sizes for historical reasons, or shift around people without changing borders– or consider changes in canon, limited or otherwise.

As for how it's expected to be updated, by people putting in effort and having an assigned task.

[Valaran]

Yeah, by and large, we shouldn't redraw existing borders - it would be an utter nightmare. My suggestion in the TG was to not use the plot system from here on out for a new continent.


That is just my view, so feel free to disagree. But still.

[The High Lords]

Yeah, by and large, we shouldn't redraw existing borders - it would be an utter nightmare. My suggestion in the TG was to not use the plot system from here on out for a new continent.


That is just my view, so feel free to disagree. But still.

Current borders can remain the same, but if the member states involved - i.e. me and roski - want to switch something around, then that's fine, to an extent. Also, RP gains and losses are fine as well.

New continent borders.will be freely drawn, and I'm sure i can help ceneria with this. It's not as big of a deal as you may think it is - and if it is indeed a problem, then we'll revert. No biggie.

[Valaran]

Yeah, by and large, we shouldn't redraw existing borders - it would be an utter nightmare. My suggestion in the TG was to not use the plot system from here on out for a new continent.


That is just my view, so feel free to disagree. But still.

Current borders can remain the same, but if the member states involved - i.e. me and roski - want to switch something around, then that's fine, to an extent. Also, RP gains and losses are fine as well.

New continent borders.will be freely drawn, and I'm sure i can help ceneria with this. It's not as big of a deal as you may think it is - and if it is indeed a problem, then we'll revert. No biggie.

All makes sense

And IC changes are always fine. Encouraged, even

[Lolomz]

I Could Be Respented By Other Nation From The Region?

[Viridisolum]

I Could Be Respented By Other Nation From The Region?

By whom exactly and why?

[Bratislav]

The thing is guys, yeah we can have a new continent for new incoming members, but it would be a nightmare in terms of RP history, if half of members of Currente continent decide to move to the new continent. It would kill all the mutual RP history and timeline that we have built up. So that needs to be avoided.

[The High Lords]

The thing is guys, yeah we can have a new continent for new incoming members, but it would be a nightmare in terms of RP history, if half of members of Currente continent decide to move to the new continent. It would kill all the mutual RP history and timeline that we have built up. So that needs to be avoided.

So, we'll just make the new continent exclusive to new members?

[Roski]

The thing is guys, yeah we can have a new continent for new incoming members, but it would be a nightmare in terms of RP history, if half of members of Currente continent decide to move to the new continent. It would kill all the mutual RP history and timeline that we have built up. So that needs to be avoided.

I don't think so, I wouldn't move to the new continent because of mutual history with THL