The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1

[New Visegrad]

guns don't stop being deadly depending on the decade their being used in

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Would a bull-pup battle rifle be reasonable as a new development or would it be a better idea to dispence with the full sized cartrage and go for something smaller?

RFB or bust!

RFB is for babies. That's what it stands for. Rifle For Babies.
BR55 HB erryday.

pagetop (still waiting for someone to spot the joke on this one)

[EsToVnIa]

guns don't stop being deadly depending on the decade their being used in

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Would a bull-pup battle rifle be reasonable as a new development or would it be a better idea to dispence with the full sized cartrage and go for something smaller?

RFB or bust!

RFB is literally a plastic brick

It handles like a plastic brick too.

Re: There's no reason why you can't adopt a full-size cartridge to a bullpup platform.

[Korva]

RFB or bust!

RFB is literally a plastic brick

It handles like a plastic brick too.

Re: There's no reason why you can't adopt a full-size cartridge to a bullpup platform.

RFB handles fine, except for one time when I was shooting shitty ammo and the primer caps came off jamming it up horribly

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Didn't you know the AK-10x series has a fake folding stock, black painted wood, special 5.45 magazine that still fits 7.62 combloc

Edit: And the different gas angle, etc. etc.

that one nut that's 3 mm from the one on the AK-47

Alright, alright. It was an inaccurate generalization, I admit this.

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Not that I know of.

And here I'd hoped it'd be simple.

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Would a bull-pup battle rifle be reasonable as a new development or would it be a better idea to dispence with the full sized cartrage and go for something smaller?

I would think that up to personal preference, honestly.

[EsToVnIa]

RFB is literally a plastic brick

It handles like a plastic brick too.

Re: There's no reason why you can't adopt a full-size cartridge to a bullpup platform.

RFB handles fine, except for one time when I was shooting shitty ammo and the primer caps came off jamming it up horribly

I meant like, ergonomically.

But 95% of bullpups suffer from plastic brick syndrome so it's w/e

[Erusuia]

I meant like, ergonomically.

But 95% of bullpups suffer from plastic brick syndrome so it's w/e

But my battle rifle was going to be build from stamped steel and poylmer!

I was planning on basicly creating a bull-pup G3A3 (my current main service weapon)

[EsToVnIa]

I meant like, ergonomically.

But 95% of bullpups suffer from plastic brick syndrome so it's w/e

But my battle rifle was going to be build from stamped steel and poylmer!

I was planning on basicly creating a bull-pup G3A3 (my current main service weapon)

Already been done so go for it i guess

[Yukonastan]

RFB or bust!

RFB is for babies. That's what it stands for. Rifle For Babies.
BR55 HB erryday.

pagetop (still waiting for someone to spot the joke on this one)

I can't read the inscription running along the barrel, that probably references someone getting torn a new one?
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I meant like, ergonomically.

But 95% of bullpups suffer from plastic brick syndrome so it's w/e

But my battle rifle was going to be build from stamped steel and poylmer!

I was planning on basicly creating a bull-pup G3A3 (my current main service weapon)

[Erusuia]

(Image)

Wow

This thing looks badass as hell. Looking around myself I came across [url=http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101130172058/guns/images/0/0f/Type11Bullpup.jpg]

[Yukonastan]

(Image)

Wow

This thing looks badass as hell. Looking around myself I came across *snip fukhueg image*

That's an Iranian G3pup prototype, from what I remember being discussed here earlier.

[EsToVnIa]

[New Visegrad]

RFB is for babies. That's what it stands for. Rifle For Babies.
BR55 HB erryday.

pagetop (still waiting for someone to spot the joke on this one)

I can't read the inscription running along the barrel, that probably references someone getting torn a new one?

You might very well think that. You'd be wrong though.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Don't suppose it's the gas tube looking bit?

[New Visegrad]

Don't suppose it's the gas tube looking bit?

No...and I'm interested to learn why you thought that would be a joke. No sarcasm, actually curious.

prototyping Cirasthayi officer outfits

[Fordorsia]

I probably won't be posting much for a while, so here's a knife

[Spreewerke]

Didn't you know the AK-10x series has a fake folding stock, black painted wood, special 5.45 magazine that still fits 7.62 combloc

Edit: And the different gas angle, etc. etc.

that one nut that's 3 mm from the one on the AK-47

Alright, alright. It was an inaccurate generalization, I admit this.

Not trying to get you personally here, so don't take it that way, but I figure perhaps it needs covered more in-depth here.

The Chinese Type-56 had a few variants. For simplicity's sake, I'm going to be comparing the basic, Vietnam-era Type-56 to the AK-103.

The Type-56 was a licensed copy of the Russian Type-III AK. It was an exact 1:1 clone of the Russian rifle it was copying, save for the front sight assembly that also housed an SKS-style fold-out spike bayonet assembly. This meant the Type-56 featured a fixed, wooden stock with a slightly downward-sloping comb. It also featured a wooden pistol grip with steel ferrule for reinforcement just below the receiver, and the Type-56 lacked a hammer retarder. The bolt-carrier was also AK-spec., which meant it was unfinished and in-the-white. Pretty much everything is identical to the Type-III, save for the front sight assembly: along with the built-in bayonet, Chinese AKs have a fully encircled front sight opposed to two "ears" on either side of the post. Metal parts, save for the bolt-carrier, etc., are blued. The barrel is threaded for 14x1mm LH threads and typically houses only a muzzle nut.

The AK-103 is simply an AK-74M rechambered to 7.62x39mm. This meant that it used a standard AK-74M bolt-carrier and piston, and an AK-74M bolt that has been modified to accommodate the 7.62x39mm cartridge. All the AK-74M features are seen on this rifle: side-folding, polymer buttstock on a 5.5mm hinge pin assembly installed on a modified Type-IV receiver (stamped) with a stock comb that is in-line with the bore. The rifles also feature an optics dovetail riveted to the left-hand side of the receiver, and the pistol grip is polymer with a steel reinforcement plate sandwiched between the grip and receiver, with a small tab protruding into the rear area of the trigger guard. The rifle features a hammer retarded for a more controlled and consistent fire rate in full-auto, and the handguards are also polymer. The gas tube is non-ventilated as it uses a 90 deg. gas block with ventilation, and the sling loops are located on the wrist of the stock and on the handguard retainer opposed to the Type-III's rear location being on the bottom of the buttstock and on the left-hand side of the gas block. The front sight block of the AK-103 is also stolen from the AK-74M, and it hosts the 24x1.5mm RH threads that allows the attachment of an AK-100 series muzzle device. The AK-103 also features two bayonet/equipment lugs because of this, and can accommodate an underbarrel grenade launcher and other lug-mounted devices (flashlights, lasers, etc.). The finish of all metal parts is paint over parkerization.


You'll have to do your own research on finding individual parts of a Type-III AK, but here's what an AK-103 looks like as far as it can be taken down (save for the bolt itself and some other small things) with the in-stock cleaning kit: http://i.imgur.com/e1GGKFO.jpg

[Doppio Giudici]

I love it when Spree talks about AKs, takes me back to the days where the idea of the AK-12/RPK-107 bastard child was thought up; with coffin mags!

[Yukonastan]

I can't read the inscription running along the barrel, that probably references someone getting torn a new one?

You might very well think that. You'd be wrong though.

Alright then I give up. Share the joke with us?

[Erusuia]

(Image)

I need to use this

[Doppio Giudici]

So we all know that AKs can be made in a cave if you have the right parts and you know what you are doing....but how do people make the ammo? Wouldn't the powder and the lead be things that are hard to obtain? Are there rounds out there that use primitive smokeless powder and steel cores?

[Sevvania]

So we all know that AKs can be made in a cave if you have the right parts and you know what you are doing....but how do people make the ammo? Wouldn't the powder and the lead be things that are hard to obtain? Are there rounds out there that use primitive smokeless powder and steel cores?

Casings can be recycled, and gunpowder can be made out of old film.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

No...and I'm interested to learn why you thought that would be a joke. No sarcasm, actually curious.

No idea. Admittedly, I was a tad out of it by that point. Probably something to do with the fact that the revolver looked in no way automatic, so a gas system would have been a bit funny.

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Not trying to get you personally here, so don't take it that way, but I figure perhaps it needs covered more in-depth here.

No problem. Indeed, I'm rather surprised by all of the changes that went into the AK-103.

[Ragnarum]

I'm putting together all my military small arms at the moment, and was wondering about something. Would it be best to use a Minimi concept for an LMG or simply base it off of my assault rifle series for standardisation and such? Keeping in mind that this is a bullpup rifle.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I'm putting together all my military small arms at the moment, and was wondering about something. Would it be best to use a Minimi concept for an LMG or simply base it off of my assault rifle series for standardisation and such? Keeping in mind that this is a bullpup rifle.

That depends on a great many factors, and both approaches have their merits and disadvantages. On the whole though, I'd advise going for a belt fed LMG or GPMG.

[EsToVnIa]

(MBT-LAW by Kat T. Sun)

Standard Estovnian infantry squad.

2 x EISA LAR (7x35mm)
6 x Ag m/38C (7x55mm)
2 x Mg 6 (7x55mm)
22 x 52 mm Mk. II Multipurpose Grenade, Rifle
2 x 52 mm Mk. II Multipurpose Grenande, Rifle (Smoke)
17 x Hg m/58 (58 mm)
1 x Rk 117 (150 mm)