The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1

[Yukonastan]

Vraag!

How difficult would it be to design an automatic, recoil operated, revolver rifle/pistol?

I once tossed around an idea for a short recoil halfautomatic revolver pistol. Nothing came of it, really.

[Proskoya]

Vraag!

How difficult would it be to design an automatic, recoil operated, revolver rifle/pistol?

--automatic
--revolver
Choose one. Otherwise things are going to get difficult.

[Crookfur]

Vraag!

How difficult would it be to design an automatic, recoil operated, revolver rifle/pistol?

take webley fosberry or mateba and just stick a sear in to keep letting the hammer go each ctime the gun cycles.

i.e. not difficult but the question is why unless you plan on adding a lulzy 20 round cyclinder or soemthing equally silly.

unless of course you mean in the style of revolver cannon where the revolver bit is feed from a belt/magazine but again the question would be why? for the love of god why?

[Puzikas]

Vraag!

How difficult would it be to design an automatic, recoil operated, revolver rifle/pistol?

--automatic
--revolver
Choose one. Otherwise things are going to get difficult.

Why not pick several though?

[Azurg]

I once tossed around an idea for a short recoil halfautomatic revolver pistol. Nothing came of it, really.

Shame. Sounds like it would've been neat.

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[--automatic
--revolver
Choose one. Otherwise things are going to get difficult.

Not really. Not at all, actually. It's trying to pull the gas system out that makes things a tad fiddly.

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take webley fosberry or mateba and just stick a sear in to keep letting the hammer go each ctime the gun cycles.

But then you've got to reload the beast every six-odd rounds!

unless of course you mean in the style of revolver cannon where the revolver bit is feed from a belt/magazine but again the question would be why? for the love of god why?

Because it'll almost undoubtedly offer ultra high cyclic bursts at a fraction of the G11 or AN-94's complexity.

[Proskoya]

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Shows you how much I know about handgun design. I'll still stick with my automatics, though ...

[Sevvania]

But then you've got to reload the beast every six-odd rounds!

I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or fifty-three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

[Puzikas]

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Shows you how much I know about handgun design. I'll still stick with my automatics, though ...

Generally speaking, automatics are superior for pretty much everything over revolvers after the 1910s.

[Yukonastan]

Shows you how much I know about handgun design. I'll still stick with my automatics, though ...

Generally speaking, automatics are superior for pretty much everything over revolvers after the 1910s.

So you've seen my abomination of a P38, M1911, and Inglis Hi-power? that shit's glorious

[Sevvania]

Shows you how much I know about handgun design. I'll still stick with my automatics, though ...

Generally speaking, automatics are superior for pretty much everything over revolvers after the 1910s.

Probably most things, yes, but notable advantages revolvers have over semi-automatics is that they can more easily accept larger cartridges, and can more often accept multiple cartridge types (with at least one model being able to accept ~25 different types) without modification.

These advantages probably don't outweigh the advantages offered by semi-automatic handguns for general use, but they're probably still pretty handy for niche roles.

[Azurg]

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I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or fifty-three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

I lold.

[Yukonastan]

Generally speaking, automatics are superior for pretty much everything over revolvers after the 1910s.

Probably most things, yes, but notable advantages revolvers have over semi-automatics is that they can more easily accept larger cartridges, and can more often accept multiple cartridge types (with at least one model being able to accept ~25 different types) without modification.

These advantages probably don't outweigh the advantages offered by semi-automatic handguns for general use, but they're probably still pretty handy for niche roles.

I saw that video on the medusa. All it is is basically a .357 magnum chamber with a tab to allow all the rimless wonder nines to chamber.

[Puzikas]

But then you've got to reload the beast every six-odd rounds!

I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or fifty-three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

This made me laugh far more than it should have.

Also, please note the use of "Generally" and "Most things"

Revolvers have their place, and I have no real issue with them for use outside of a police and military role in a modern setting.

Thought the M1895 Nagant is still the longest serving handgun in the world.

[Sevvania]

I saw that video on the medusa. All it is is basically a .357 magnum chamber with a tab to allow all the rimless wonder nines to chamber.

And that's why it's beautiful. Simple tabs in the cylinder basically give it the ability to fire ~9mm anything.

I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or fifty-three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

This made me laugh far more than it should have.

Also, please note the use of "Generally" and "Most things"

Revolvers have their place, and I have no real issue with them for use outside of a police and military role in a modern setting.

Thought the M1895 Nagant is still the longest serving handgun in the world.

Right, I knew you knew the characteristic advantages of revolvers, but for the sake of others here (who will now be like, "wow he's rlly smart he knows things"), I figured I'd go ahead and list a couple.

Nagant is noice.

[Yukonastan]

Alright, dumb ideas time.

Dumb idea is this.
kill me now, i linked a sparky link

[Puzikas]

Alright, dumb ideas time.

Dumb idea is this.
kill me now, i linked a sparky link

Read none of this, scroled through to look for dumb pictures.

Words caught eye.

And the M14. The new BullDog bullpup 7.62mm x 51mm NATO M14 is an amazing rifle with lots of promise that has already proven itself in combats in Afghanistan

Thats enough internet for today.

[Spirit of Hope]

Alright, dumb ideas time.

Dumb idea is this.
kill me now, i linked a sparky link

Read none of this, scroled through to look for dumb pictures.

Words caught eye.

And the M14. The new BullDog bullpup 7.62mm x 51mm NATO M14 is an amazing rifle with lots of promise that has already proven itself in combats in Afghanistan

Thats enough internet for today.

This quote caught my eye:

The amazing picture above shows President Kennedy with an early-model, futuristic M16 in 1963. The irony is that in a few months evil men would assassinate him using multiple rifle fire in a "L"-shaped ambush in Dealey plaza in Dallas, Texas because he wasn't pro-war enough.

[Sevvania]

Alright, dumb ideas time.

Dumb idea is this.
kill me now, i linked a sparky link

Any decent ideas that may be in there are buried under so much conspiratorial and blatant bias that it's hard to distinguish a possibly legitimate point from utter malarkey. From what I managed to read, the only thing resembling a logical train of thought was "Vulture" guns capable of utilizing enemy ammunition, but he seems to think that this is something everybody needs one of in their IFV. Which leads me to wonder what all the other guys are supposed to do if ammo runs dry and they have to resort to the one rifle they have that can use 7.62x39mm.

[Azurg]

Is it bad that I sometimes enjoy reading Sparky ramblings? They tend to be utterly hilarious.

[Sevvania]

Is it bad that I sometimes enjoy reading Sparky ramblings? They tend to be utterly hilarious.

They make me weep for humanity.

[The balkens]

But then you've got to reload the beast every six-odd rounds!

I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or fifty-three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

What....

The fuck is that?

[Gvozdevsk]

Alright, dumb ideas time.

Dumb idea is this.
kill me now, i linked a sparky link

Oh god I remember reading this like a year ago and all I remember out of it was something about how the US Army should use the SKS.

[Gallia-]

I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or fifty-three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

What....

The fuck is that?

A British "gonne", possibly intended to fire multiple bullets.

[The balkens]

What....

The fuck is that?

A British "gonne", possibly intended to fire multiple bullets.

Ah.

Well kour has some explaining to do about this shit.

[Black Hand]

Would a light weight 14.5mm hmg designed to be man portable for use by airborne forces be viable/a good idea?

No. The weapon will be too heavy and the ammunition even heavier.

This. though a HMG would be good for terrain where a vehicle is unsuitable such as a mountainous terrain

airborne want the lightest possible weapons.
Arm them with carbines. Or hell even SMG's/PDW's
or better yet arm them wit ha forced air cooled microcaliber automatic rifle.
*cue shameless self promotion*

operation: long stroke gas operation, telescoping bolt.
Barrel length: 450mm
rate of fire: 870RPM cyclic.
overall length: 585mm
effective range 330M
maximum range 600M
capacity: 36 dual stack magazine, 72 round quad stack magazine.
forced air cooling.