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Who's going to OP IDT VI?

Archangel Conglomerate
4
3%
Spreewerke
8
6%
Kouralia
5
4%
Puzikas
5
4%
Sevvania
6
4%
Nirvash
3
2%
Nua Corda
50
35%
Imperializt Russia/Samozaryadnistan
12
9%
Padnak
48
34%
 
Total votes : 141
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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:18 pm

So. . . my 7,92x120mm tround is slowly becoming a thing. Well, I say slowly. Really I'm just trying to even out the projectile's BC and figure out how the use of liquid propellants will effect the velocity.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:19 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:So. . . my 7,92x120mm tround is slowly becoming a thing. Well, I say slowly. Really I'm just trying to even out the projectile's BC and figure out how the use of liquid propellants will effect the velocity.


I tried liquid propellant once.

It turns out that light gas gave better performance.
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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:31 pm

Yukonastan wrote:I tried liquid propellant once.

It turns out that light gas gave better performance.

I suspect liquid may be easier to pack into a cartridge. Too, it may have a longer shelf life.
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Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:48 pm

I wonder. Just how much energy is needed to kill a man? Like how little is too little? What should I look for when evaluating my designs?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.


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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:52 pm

Purpelia wrote:I wonder. Just how much energy is needed to kill a man? Like how little is too little? What should I look for when evaluating my designs?

As I recall, when designing the 4,5mm MKR the Swedes had a minimum requirement of 40j.
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Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:52 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I wonder. Just how much energy is needed to kill a man? Like how little is too little? What should I look for when evaluating my designs?

As I recall, when designing the 4,5mm MKR the Swedes had a minimum requirement of 40j.

40J... that's like... not a lot. I believe you it's just... well it's not in the same order of magnitude that I expected it to be.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.


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Postby Bezombia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:56 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:As I recall, when designing the 4,5mm MKR the Swedes had a minimum requirement of 40j.

40J... that's like... not a lot. I believe you it's just... well it's not in the same order of magnitude that I expected it to be.


You could probably punch someone at 40J.

To give you some perspective, typical 5.56x45 delivers 1,700J at the muzzle.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:00 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:40J... that's like... not a lot. I believe you it's just... well it's not in the same order of magnitude that I expected it to be.


You could probably punch someone at 40J.

To give you some perspective, typical 5.56x45 delivers 1,700J at the muzzle.


It all depends on how the energy is transfered to the body though, right? A fist with the same energy as a bullet just after leaving the muzzle would probably cause someone to literally explode.
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:03 pm

Purpelia wrote:40J... that's like... not a lot. I believe you it's just... well it's not in the same order of magnitude that I expected it to be.

I thought the same, to be honest. Especiay since I was used to using 420j as my minimum.
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Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:03 pm

My round performs interesting at 1000m. It falls -1140mm and only has 141 J.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.


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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:03 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
You could probably punch someone at 40J.

To give you some perspective, typical 5.56x45 delivers 1,700J at the muzzle.


It all depends on how the energy is transfered to the body though, right? A fist with the same energy as a bullet just after leaving the muzzle would probably cause someone to literally explode.


I think if you managed to punch someone fast enough and hard enough to equal the energy of a speeding bullet you'll suddenly find yourself with a promising career in both boxing and special effects for kung fu movies.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:13 pm

You know what's good for transfer of energy at long distances? GPCs.
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:14 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know what's good for transfer of energy at long distances? GPCs.


You know what's better? Gyrojet.
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Postby Bezombia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:14 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know what's good for transfer of energy at long distances? GPCs.


And flaming battering rams fired out of ship-mounted ballistas.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!
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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:19 pm

What are we doing?
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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:20 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know what's good for transfer of energy at long distances? GPCs.

2tru

7,92x120mm tround for year's best GPC!
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Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.
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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:20 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know what's good for transfer of energy at long distances? GPCs.


And flaming battering rams fired out of ship-mounted ballistas.



The only genuinely decent GPCs I've seen on IDT are 7mm Nirvashi and 6.5x60mm Tsavonian.


Ave Nexalia!
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:21 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know what's good for transfer of energy at long distances? GPCs.

2tru

7,92x120mm tround for year's best GPC!

Oh you~
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:21 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:What are we doing?


Right now I'm admiring how you managed to get a post with two sets of three identical consecutive numbers in the post ID, and the second set is exactly twice the value of the first set.

In addition to this, the first non-consecutive number is twice the value of the second non-consecutive number, and if you devide the second consecutive set by the first consecutive set you get the first non-consecutive number.


How the fuck did you managed to pull that off? Must have taken months of planning.
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Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:22 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:What are we doing?

You don't wanna know.

24x120mm best gpc.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:22 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:What are we doing?

You don't wanna know.

24x120mm best gpc.

20x142.6mm.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.


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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:23 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:What are we doing?


Its simple, we kill the batman Puz.
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:23 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:You don't wanna know.

24x120mm best gpc.

20x142.6mm.


Case stats plis.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:26 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:20x142.6mm.


Case stats plis.

Case type Rimless, bottleneck
Bullet diameter 20 mm
Neck diameter 21.80 mm
Shoulder diameter 29.75 mm
Base diameter 32.32 mm
Rim diameter 32.448 mm
Rim thickness 4.2324 mm
Case length 142.619 mm
Overall length 199.307 mm
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Last edited by Purpelia on Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.


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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:30 pm

heh

Case type Rimless, bottleneck
Bullet diameter 24 mm
Neck diameter 26 mm
Shoulder diameter 38 mm
Base diameter 42 mm
Rim diameter 42 mm
Rim thickness 5mm mm
Case length 120 mm
Overall length 170 mm
Case capacity irrelevant (don't have the formulas to calculate, soz)
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