The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1

[Ulfr-Reich]

"evaluation" implies imminent reverse engineering.
AKA you can use 'em.

oh, ill TG you then.

What about all the potentially nightmare-fuel inducing K-reich equipment I've got tucked about, I mean, c'mon, your a Reichstaat, and barely a democratic one at that.

[The balkens]

oh, ill TG you then.

What about all the potentially nightmare-fuel inducing K-reich equipment I've got tucked about, I mean, c'mon, your a Reichstaat, and barely a democratic one at that.

...Go on.

[Lyras]

Lyran standard infantry rifle.

LY21 Advanced High Lethality Assault Rifle (AHLAR) – Protectorate of Lyras


Weight: 3.6 kg (unloaded), 4.4 kg (loaded)
Length: 710mm
Barrel length: 450mm
Cartridge: 6.3 x 40mm Lyran Caseless (6.3mm LCL)
Action: gas operated, electrically fired rotary breech
Rate of fire: 650rpm (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: 880 m/s
Effective range: 500 m
Max range: 800 m
Feed system: 60 rd detachable box
Sights: Aperture rear, hooded post front. Picatinny rails allow alternates.

Abstract
The LY21 Advanced High Lethality Assault Rifle (AHLAR) [pronounced – ‘a-LAR’, as in ‘alarm’] is a short-stroke, balanced automatic, electrically-fired, light weight, robust, high capacity weapon chambered in 6.3x40mm Lyran Caseless (6.3 LCL), designed and built by the Protectorate of Lyras.

Background, development and conceptualisation
As more and more weapons, of varying quality, flooded the international markets, many in Lyras chose to take the dearth of poor quality or ambiguous weapons as indication that in-service Lyran weaponry was sufficient. Others took developments overseas as indicative of continued pressure, reasoning, not incorrectly, that developments and upgrades, especially amongst the major powers, were likely to continue, and that Lyran parity in small arms was insufficient, and overmatch, if practical, was preferable. In depth analysis of variant thought in firearms design, and prototype evaluation of a host of exotic and rare small arms was conducted, and a broad inter-Order panel was formulated to examine the practicality of many innovations.
Discussions of many possibilities went on for quite some time, and disputes were often heated. Over the course of the weapon’s development three scientists died in a pair of duels when tempers boiled over. In one of those two instances, when the challenge was issued it was discovered that both challengers were pilots, and had each nominated an aerial duel as their preferred resolution. The duel was conducted in cannon-armed LY909 Sparrowhawks over a 200x200km area, and was decided by a mid-air collision which claimed both lives. As a result of the setbacks incurred by the LY21 project as a result of these three fatalities, an Executive Inquiry was commenced into the impact of legislatively supervised duels within Lyras, and its findings have yet to be released.

Despite this, and other setbacks, progress on the weapon continued to enjoy broad Executive-Command-level support and by mid 2010 (several years into the program) the design was firming up.
While not revolutionary in any sense, the LY21 was certainly unusual, with its amalgamation of a number of modern and innovative small arms developments producing a distinctive weapon, which is intended to function as the mainstay of the Protectorate’s infantry arsenal for some time.

Construction
As is the case with small arms design anywhere, attempts to minimise carried weight and improve handiness and portability are in conflict with measures designed to optimise the weapon’s capacity to generate sustained, accurate and effective fire. Lessons learned from the LY46 ‘Hellhammer’ .50LCL handgun have, where applicable, been transferred to the LY21, foremost amongst them being an unusual blend of light and heavy construction in different areas of the weapon.
The majority of the weapon’s body is made of high-durability, lightweight, impact-resistant fibreglass-reinforced polyamide. This comes in a high-grip matte finish, with a variety of colours or camouflage patterns available.
The working parts and majority of the gas system are tungsten primarily for its very high heat tolerance, which improves the weapon’s performance and sustained accuracy.
The barrel is cold hammer-forged steel, and is chrome lined, with a 1 in 10 rifling twist.
Internal electrics are composed of Indium Gallium Arsenide, selected despite its higher cost over silicon for its extremely high resistance to electromagnetic pulse attack. Circuitry is further protected by kraton insulation, to further improve electromagnetic resilience. Given the very-short lengths of wiring, however, this was never likely to be a problem, in any case.
Sundries are generally composed of synthetics, to keep the weapon’s weight down as far as practical, given the parameters of performance. This is a marked difference from the otherwise conceptually not-dissimilar G11, which made far greater use of metals in its construction, and has a physically far more complex operating system.

Ammunition
While Lyran experience with caseless ammunition in the LY46 has been of some use in developing the 6.3x40mm rounds that feed the LY21, the notable differences between the platforms has made the 6.3LCL quite different from the .50LCL round in most regards.
While the .50LCL uses a denatured hexogen propellant, the 6.3LCL is a 78% RDX, 12% cellulose acetate (CA), 5.8% triacetin(TA), 4% low-nitrogen content nitrocellulose, 0.2% cardamite mix. The CA is used as an energetic binder, with the TA serving as the CA’s plasticiser to improve the propellant block’s cohesion. 6.3LCL, by virtue of its unique composition, is an extremely low vulnerability ammunition, and does not ignite even at 350C, although starts producing yellow fumes at 220C. In contrast, conventional nitrocellulose propellant ignites at temperatures slightly below 175C. Despite the usage of caseless ammunition, 6.3LCL is actually less likely to cook-off than conventional ammunition.
Further, at 1097J/g, the 6.3LCL’s propellant is marginally superior to conventional ammunition propellant in energy terms.
Care has been taken in production to keep the plasticiser percentage below 6%, as irregular combustion becomes more prominent as TA increases.
Theoretical prediction of the ballistic performance of this formulation indicates it can achieve marginally superior ballistics for propellant loading, relative to existing nitrocellulose compositions.
Combustible cellulose end-caps ensure that the projectile and primer sit properly within the round, and disintegrate during firing.

6.3LCL rounds are compliant with the CL6 standard, and are suitable for usage in any weapon with a chamber pressure of 500MPa or better, and an electric ignition. (i.e., CL6 is a broad standard, CL6-40.EC5 is a particular specification it provides, "EC5" standing for electric current ignition, 500 MPa pressure limit, and 6.3LCL is a specific round compliant with it).
6.3LCL comes in two primary variants. The baseline is a hardened steel core, lead-base round optimised for lethality at all ranges and conditions, issued as standard, and similar in terminal effects to the JMC Mk5 that Lyran soldiers are already familiar with.
The second, the 6.3LCLTC is a tungsten-carbide-cored, armour-piercing round, designed for use against armies fielding personnel with high-end body armour as standard.

Operating and feed system and recoil attenuation
The LY21 is, in most respects, a reasonable conventional closed-bolt, balanced-automatic, short-stroke gas-operated assault rifle. The weapon’s caseless nature removes the requirement for ejection of cases during normal operation, which removes the step from the operating cycle.
The cocking handle is located on the left side of the weapon, and serves to load a round into the chamber, and can also be used to eject rounds in the chamber via the ejection port on the right hand side of the weapon.

The LY21’s balanced-automatic system is based on utilisation of the propellant gases to drive not just the piston which drives the bolt rearward towards battery, but also to push a secondary piston and counterweight in the opposite direction, ie towards the muzzle. The mechanics are such that as the bolt reaches the furthest rearward part of its recoiling (thus impacting the rubber pads of the interior of the butt plate), the counterweight also reaches the end point of its forward movement. This 'balanced recoil' action noticeably decreases felt recoil and thus improves controllability and accuracy in fully automatic or rapid-semiautomatic firing.

Borrowing from the LY20, the rubber pads described above are of further relevance if a silencer is fitted, as this padding also significantly reduces the sound produced by the bolt and piston assemblies impacting their respective stops, circumventing the tell-tale 'click-click-click' sound of silenced automatic weapons fire.

The magazine and feed systems of the LY21 has been through a number of refinements. Initial attempts were similar in operation to that of the G11 light support weapon prototypes designed by Heckler and Koch in the late 1980s. Large capacity magazines, with multiple magazine wells, fed an asymmetric, off magazine-axis chamber. The feed path from these variants is shown below.


While innovative, the magazine’s complexity added to its weight, increased it (and the weapon’s own) fragility, and detracted from magazine and platform reliability. Subsequent to that, a new design with a more conventionally laid out three-well single-stacked magazine, and a dramatically simplified feed path, was employed. While longer, and thinner, the magazine is considerably simpler in operation, and savings in weight and reliability were considered worth the weapon’s taller profile. The magazine features three single-stacked magazine wells, with the rounds oriented towards the muzzle of the weapon. The bolt feeds first the right well, then, once the right well is empty, the magazine catch at the bottom of the well causes the bolt to rotate as it moves forward, thus feeding from the centre well, and the same occurs to feed from the left once the central well is exhausted. Once the left well is empty, the magazine catch prevents the weapon from locking forward, which makes for a slightly faster reload time by a trained operator.

The profile is, however, not as much taller as would otherwise be thought, with the simplified pathing contributing to a smaller chamber and less extensive bolt and action.
LY21 magazines are about 50% longer than a conventional 30rnd 5.56mm STANAG magazine, but only fractionally wider, which allows for easy carriage on chest webbing or similar. The light-weight, high-strength, semi-transparent plastic magazine, with readily delineated notches, also provides for easy assessment of the number of remaining rounds, should the shooter lose count (an easy prospect, given the high-capacity magazines).

Recoil mitigation was a factor considered early on in the LY21’s design, and lessons learned on both the LY20 and LY46 were considered. The bolt-carrier assembly moves rearwards into heavy duty recoil springs, which absorb an appreciable portion of the contact/impact with the back of the weapon.
Further, use of the patented Pachmayr-designed 'Decelerator' handgrips, approved for the LY46, has been approved also for the LY21. Decelerator grips feature ergonomic finger grooves, carefully machined tactile palm grips, and a patented soft-durable rubber composite. A full-potency muzzle-brake, mostly hidden behind the forward elements of the weapon’s furnishings, deflects propellant gases upward and sideways, counteracting some of the rifle’s rearward motion, and also serving in a capacity as a flash suppressor. This muzzle-brake is internally threaded for use with silencers or sound-suppressors, and is designed to also prevent the propellant gases from kicking up dust in and around the shooter’s location, even from the basic-prone firing position.

Trigger/safety mechanism
Due to the AHLAR’s implementation of low vulnerability caseless ammunition, the LY21 uses an electronic trigger, rather than the conventional firing pin/percussion cap layout, to ignite the propellant and release a round. The electrical ignition grants lock times at approximately 20 microseconds; a considerable improvement on mechanical lock times, in addition to the other benefits. Fewer moving parts, and no mass shift during firing also improves accuracy and decreases component wear. Twin 15-volt lithium ion polymer batteries, located in the lower portion of the butt, allow it to fire approximately 5,000 rounds without replacement or recharge. The battery charge status can be displayed through the multi-function battlesight by activation of the appropriate switch on the sighting system, and a plug can serve as a recharge point, from any standard AC or DC power source, including those featured on most Lyran AFVs. The battery’s are loaded from the rear of the butt, and can be changed in about 20 seconds, should the need arise.

Like all Lyran weapons, the LY21 uses a dual-pressure trigger system. Pulling the trigger to the first pressure (2.1 kg) fires semi-automatically, but pulling the trigger to the second trigger pressure (4.5kg) produces automatic fire. This system, similar to that featured on the Austrian Steyr AUG, enables the operator to employ either semi-automatic or automatic fire without adjusting the weapon in any way, or breaking the firing position. A single-shot lockout stud, located below the trigger, can be pulled out to prevent the trigger being pulled rearward to the second pressure, and thus will prevent accidental employment of automatic fire. The stud can be pushed back into the trigger, thus re-allowing automatic fire, by a split-second movement of the index or middle finger of the master hand.

Safety of the AUG, set to ‘fire’.
The LY21 borrows most of the features of its safety system from the earlier LY20. The safety is located immediately above the weapon's pistol grip, and is a simple thumb or index-finger operated push-action trigger-lock safety. In the LY21’s case, this also includes connections to the weapon’s electrical system. When set to ‘safe’, the rifle’s electronic trigger circuit is not complete, making engaging the trigger ineffective. The safety protrudes 1cm from the weapon's right, just above a right hander's index finger, when in safe mode, and displays a white dot to the operator.
When switched to “fire” condition, the safety is taken offline by the index finger pushing it into the weapon. The safety will then protrude 1cm out the opposite (left hand) side of the weapon, and display a red dot to the operator, indicating the weapon's state of readiness visually, as well as to physical inspection. This safety system, identical to that featured on the AUG, was selected for its ability to be engaged or disengaged without the operator taking his hands from the weapon's foregrip or trigger, and yet being able to check the readiness status of the weapon without visual inspection.

Sighting system
As is increasingly common on Lyran small arms, the LY21 features a full-length dorsal picatinny rail for mounting of any number of sighting systems. Anything compatible with the picatinny rail system can be mounted on the weapon.

Accessories
The LY21’s full length dorsal, and mid-length ventral and lateral picatinny rails provide the system with a tremendous versatility. The following illustration shows some of the many possible accessories, but is by no means exhaustive.
Accessories
Note, however, that the weapon is not provided with these accessories, when delivered. Choice of additions to the platform are an end-user prerogative, and the cost of these accessories is not covered by purchase of an LY21.
Export
The LY21 AHLAR is designed to equip sophisticated and well trained fighting forces. Careful production and quality control standards, as well as insurance of the weapon’s robustness under adverse conditions, has left the LY21 as a weapon for the more discerning military and paramilitary forces. Deliveries of the LY21 are made in the ‘clean’ configuration, and come with six complimentary magazines, including ammunition. The weapon sells individually at NS$4,000, and domestic production rights are available at NS $4bn .
Questions or purchases can be made through Lyran Arms.

[Khornatenreich]

...Go on.

Yes, join me, join the Reich side.

snip

Even to this very day, you somehow blended component types I loathe into a high tech combo that I somehow find deeply enjoyable; snazzy work my friend, very snazzy work.

[Lyras]

...Go on.

Yes, join me, join the Reich side.

snip

Even to this very day, you somehow blended component types I loathe into a high tech combo that I somehow find deeply enjoyable; snazzy work my friend, very snazzy work.

Thank you. I aim to please. Bullpups have great potential, as do many other elements of under-utilised contemporary technology including caseless low-vulnerability ammunition, balanced automatics and similar. The LY21 is my stab in that direction for a rifle.

[San-Silvacian]

I don't think bullpups offer such a staggering amount of advantages over conventional layout firearms.

That being said, the technology isn't 'under-utilized' because surprisingly, R&D of such technology costs this crazy thing called money.

The major powers have their own programs, or if not they have a stake in another nation's program.

[Yukonastan]

I don't think bullpups offer such a staggering amount of advantages over conventional layout firearms.

That being said, the technology isn't 'under-utilized' because surprisingly, R&D of such technology costs this crazy thing called money.

The major powers have their own programs, or if not they have a stake in another nation's program.

Bullpups are the way that infantry weapons will go.

There's disadvantages, such as the fact that left-handed people will get the bolt slapping their cheek and that they'll be fed hot brass, and the fact that reloading is inherently slightly harder, and the fact that the trigger will never be as smooth as a conventional rifle, but they're outweighed by the advantages.

First off, balance. Bullpups, even if they're heavier than conventional rifles, are balanced massively toward the rear, which makes for an easier handling package. Quite the advantage for operating operators on operations. Secondly, size. Bullpups are shorter than collapsed carbines but fit full-length barrels, with all the advantages of the full-length barrel on the bullet. This means more hitting power without the problems associated with longer guns, such as bumping into things.
Thirdly, they look futuristic, and fourthly, they nearly gave the US cause to ditch the AR. (G11 is a bullpup, oddly enough. Action reciprocates entirely behind the trigger, even if the magazine doesn't.)

[Lyras]

I don't think bullpups offer such a staggering amount of advantages over conventional layout firearms.

That being said, the technology isn't 'under-utilized' because surprisingly, R&D of such technology costs this crazy thing called money.

The major powers have their own programs, or if not they have a stake in another nation's program.

I suspect that prevalence of legacy systems (and the mountains of ammunition) is also a thing.

[San-Silvacian]

I don't think bullpups offer such a staggering amount of advantages over conventional layout firearms.

That being said, the technology isn't 'under-utilized' because surprisingly, R&D of such technology costs this crazy thing called money.

The major powers have their own programs, or if not they have a stake in another nation's program.

Bullpups are the way that infantry weapons will go.

There's disadvantages, such as the fact that left-handed people will get the bolt slapping their cheek and that they'll be fed hot brass, and the fact that reloading is inherently slightly harder, and the fact that the trigger will never be as smooth as a conventional rifle, but they're outweighed by the advantages.

First off, balance. Bullpups, even if they're heavier than conventional rifles, are balanced massively toward the rear, which makes for an easier handling package. Quite the advantage for operating operators on operations. Secondly, size. Bullpups are shorter than collapsed carbines but fit full-length barrels, with all the advantages of the full-length barrel on the bullet. This means more hitting power without the problems associated with longer guns, such as bumping into things.
Thirdly, they look futuristic, and fourthly, they nearly gave the US cause to ditch the AR. (G11 is a bullpup, oddly enough. Action reciprocates entirely behind the trigger, even if the magazine doesn't.)

I replaced my FAMAS with an HK416.

I guess my troops are now inferior operations during operations.

[Yukonastan]

Bullpups are the way that infantry weapons will go.

There's disadvantages, such as the fact that left-handed people will get the bolt slapping their cheek and that they'll be fed hot brass, and the fact that reloading is inherently slightly harder, and the fact that the trigger will never be as smooth as a conventional rifle, but they're outweighed by the advantages.

First off, balance. Bullpups, even if they're heavier than conventional rifles, are balanced massively toward the rear, which makes for an easier handling package. Quite the advantage for operating operators on operations. Secondly, size. Bullpups are shorter than collapsed carbines but fit full-length barrels, with all the advantages of the full-length barrel on the bullet. This means more hitting power without the problems associated with longer guns, such as bumping into things.
Thirdly, they look futuristic, and fourthly, they nearly gave the US cause to ditch the AR. (G11 is a bullpup, oddly enough. Action reciprocates entirely behind the trigger, even if the magazine doesn't.)

I replaced my FAMAS with an HK416.

I guess my troops are now inferior operations during operations.

Nope, no superiority there.

Nah, you can join the Operating Operators of Operations Society with your M416s. I prefer gas piston conventional over blowback bullpup, even if it IS conventional.

[San-Silvacian]

That being said it isn't about just how l33t your rifle is provided it can lay down an effective base of fire and be just enough for your troops to manage without much work.

The things you should strive to make OP as possible are things like machine guns, grenade launchers, etc.

That is why LSAT is an LMG, its going to improve what needs to be improved first, the, at least for the US, the most causality producing weapon system at the squad level, the LMG.

That is why firearms stayed the same for decades, but machine guns rapidly advanced. Jerry was carrying his daddy's G98, while Hanz the squads machine gunner was change his MG34 to an MG42, a superior weapon system. The US military replaced the M60 with the M240 and M249. The main rifle will stay the same for many years, while machine guns, grenade launchers, etc will evolve and change unless there is a serious demand for an upgrade or a new evolution in weapon design has come along.

Only massive advancements in weapon design really effect things. Using conventional ammunition, bullpups have 0 increase in overall, combat effectiveness (When used in the hands of the average infantryman), than a conventional layout.

Telescoped cased and caseless designs are the future of weapon design, its no doubt.

[Khornatenreich]

What about all the potentially nightmare-fuel inducing K-reich equipment I've got tucked about, I mean, c'mon, your a Reichstaat, and barely a democratic one at that.

...Go on.

Name: Haenel - Modell 1943 Machinenkarabiner

Cartridge: 8.93x35mm Haenel

Ammunition Capacity: 24

Action: Roller delayed-blowback / Select fire

Rate of Fire: 465 - 565 rounds/min

Muzzle Velocity: 2,455 f/s

Sights: Rheinmetall Modell 32


These are handed out like candy during and after the seventies to fascist and khornate powers the world(s)if you include nation-states multiverse' system); It served as an interim heavy machine carbine for Khörmacht from 1943 till the early fifties, making room for the StGew 55 to be completed and rolled into mass-production. It's still a rather hardy weapon, with multiple derivatives up-to and including everything from a collapsing-stock tanker/para carbine to some sort of scout carbine, really, a plethora of uses at hand.

First introduced as a simple upgrade and "Centralization of concept and design" of the notoriously vicious P-37 series, primarily the fact that having several extra variants of the original model just seemed far-too costly to continually manufacture with little to no return. It was quickly decided by the DiG and given direct blessing by Reichsmarshall Heydritch (Yes, he seriously is a Daemon Prince of Khörne) to be produced en' mass and thereby be readily made available to other far and distant lands both to bring in revenue and trade, yet also at stupid levels of discount unto worthy nations (Reichstaats and authoritatian nations only) adhering to the spirit of cooperation caused by the principles of "Volksdeutsche Vereinigung durch Stärke der Waffen und Stärke des Eisens!" (Volksdeutsche unification through strength of arms and strength of iron!)found on propaganda posters at every export dock in the Reich). In which arming, aiding, and insuring the survival of other German and/or Khornate reichstaats, Imperial states, authoritarian dictatorships, bundesreichs; generally anything and anyone that happens to be German or serving the Blut-Gott (If filling both categories, the shipments of ordinance sometimes tend to become rather blatantly absurd; though German states do tend to get a discount outright any transactions, unless of course said nation is communist, then a "Fickt euch, ihr bolschewistischen Schweine!" is usually chucked out via a communique(hey, at least they have standards). Amongst it's list of upgrades is a higher quality barrel and vastly improved sights, alongside a muchly improved extractor, thereby solving any jamming issues it's predecessor may have had; frankly, it works, works well and blows a chunk out of what your aiming at if you actually have to draw a pistol in combat or when "on the job".


Name: Walther - Modell 1937/39 Kampfpistole; Export model

Cartridge: 7.68x30mm (JHP) Mauser: fav.me/d6brr50

Ammunition Capacity: 10 rnd box mag

Action: Recoil-actuated, Blowback

Rate of Fire: FAO

Muzzle Velocity: 2,240 f/s

Sights: Walther - Modell 36

List of current users:

The Kaizerreich of Deutschestag

Designed as a replacement for the aging Mg42/45 model machine-guns currently in use by almost every single branch of service and warrior order within the Khornatenreichs' vast territories and on the numerous fronts of "Der Krieg, der nie beendet." (The war that never ended.). What originally started out as a simple refit of an old and trusted design turned into a total and complete redesign, in typical DiG fashion, the concepts rapidly turned over-engineered massively complex devices to the simplest of concepts until finally falling an old tried and true industrial concept of over-engineering until a concept or design actually becomes "Simple". Taking the now rather tried and true roller-delayed blowback mechanism and giving said mechanism one hell of a powerful buffer-assembly alongside a plethora of manufacturing and metallurgical improvements brought into the process due to a solid decade and a quarter of scientific and industrial progress backing the very creation of the project. It was decided, consequently, that since the factories and the R&D center at Peenemünde (So it's relatively safe to assume that some nightmarish forms of occult research went down for that metallurgical tech advancement, probably involving warpfire and some form of unfathomably evil atrocities just for shits n' giggles).

Among the improvements brought to the old and trusted platform (what was left of it anyway, seriously, Speers' boys went to town on the ole' 42'.) was a far-sturdier, milled lower receiver, and a radiator block built around the chamber and base barrel socket to help cut the obscene amount of heat caused by the stupidly long "bursts" used by men in the field on the endless fronts and warzones of the ruined earth. Albeit vastly heavier than it's predecessor, the Mg58's usage of what can roughly be deemed a two and a half pound buffer assembly to go alongside the inclusion of the now stock-standard fluted chamber and muzzle assembly (Muzzle-cup/compensator/flash-hider hybrid, it's still loud as all fuck). Another set of upgrades includes a set of simplified yet efficient gauges installed under the feed tray to monitor barrel and chamber temperature to aid in prolonged fire (Primarily to prevent idiot Volksgrenadiers or penal units from welding the barrel to the chamber through constant uncontrolled bursts).


Name: DiG - Modell 1958 Standarten Maschinengewehr

Cartridge: 9.68x45mm Mauser (M)S.s Patrone

Ammunition Capacity: 75 - 200 round belts feeding from varying sources

Action: Roller delayed-blowback with massively varying weight bolts

Rate of Fire: 900 - 1000 - 1150 - 1515 rounds/min (Depending upon bolt weight)

Muzzle Velocity: 2,885 f/s

Sights: DiG - Modell 56 GPMG Sights

Originally derived from a scoped Modell 33' service rifle fiddled with for hunting Partisans in the Eurasian frontier, it quickly became apparent that troops outside of the "Untermenschen Jäger Bataillone" (or UJB as they were known in the record books from 1946-on) had quite a situation on their hands. Enough of one that the Hochmeister of the Red Order was ordered by the Reichsmarshall to bring forth two regiments of nothing but his most murderous, wrathful and fanatical Blutritter to aid in the extermination of partisans, subversives and to remove genetic noncompliance from as many of the locals going all the way to Olmsk (Where the reichs' reach ends and the territory of the "Verbrannten Abfälle" (scorched wastes) the likes of which have endured horrifying continuous atomic bombardment, warpfire incineration and shrieking souls. This singular rifle has seen more use in every "Dunkel Kreuzzug" than the swords and cannons of the Red Order alone in regard to slaughtering subversives and partisans, hunting them like elk in the endless shadowy haunted forests of the frontier.


Name: DiG - Modell 1953 Scharfschützen Gewehr

Cartridge: 9.68x45mm Mauser (M)S.s Patrone

Ammunition Capacity: 8 rounds

Action: Roller Delayed Blowback

Rate of Fire: 450-515 rounds/min

Muzzle Velocity: 2,885 f/s

Sights: DiG - Modell 48' Scharf-Optik

[The balkens]

...Go on.

Name: Haenel - Modell 1943 Machinenkarabiner

Cartridge: 8.93x35mm Haenel

Ammunition Capacity: 24

Action: Roller delayed-blowback / Select fire

Rate of Fire: 465 - 565 rounds/min

Muzzle Velocity: 2,455 f/s

Sights: Rheinmetall Modell 32


These are handed out like candy during and after the seventies to fascist and khornate powers the world(s)if you include nation-states multiverse' system); It served as an interim heavy machine carbine for Khörmacht from 1943 till the early fifties, making room for the StGew 55 to be completed and rolled into mass-production. It's still a rather hardy weapon, with multiple derivatives up-to and including everything from a collapsing-stock tanker/para carbine to some sort of scout carbine, really, a plethora of uses at hand.

First introduced as a simple upgrade and "Centralization of concept and design" of the notoriously vicious P-37 series, primarily the fact that having several extra variants of the original model just seemed far-too costly to continually manufacture with little to no return. It was quickly decided by the DiG and given direct blessing by Reichsmarshall Heydritch (Yes, he seriously is a Daemon Prince of Khörne) to be produced en' mass and thereby be readily made available to other far and distant lands both to bring in revenue and trade, yet also at stupid levels of discount unto worthy nations (Reichstaats and authoritatian nations only) adhering to the spirit of cooperation caused by the principles of "Volksdeutsche Vereinigung durch Stärke der Waffen und Stärke des Eisens!" (Volksdeutsche unification through strength of arms and strength of iron!)found on propaganda posters at every export dock in the Reich). In which arming, aiding, and insuring the survival of other German and/or Khornate reichstaats, Imperial states, authoritarian dictatorships, bundesreichs; generally anything and anyone that happens to be German or serving the Blut-Gott (If filling both categories, the shipments of ordinance sometimes tend to become rather blatantly absurd; though German states do tend to get a discount outright any transactions, unless of course said nation is communist, then a "Fickt euch, ihr bolschewistischen Schweine!" is usually chucked out via a communique(hey, at least they have standards). Amongst it's list of upgrades is a higher quality barrel and vastly improved sights, alongside a muchly improved extractor, thereby solving any jamming issues it's predecessor may have had; frankly, it works, works well and blows a chunk out of what your aiming at if you actually have to draw a pistol in combat or when "on the job".


Name: Walther - Modell 1937/39 Kampfpistole; Export model

Cartridge: 7.68x30mm (JHP) Mauser: fav.me/d6brr50

Ammunition Capacity: 10 rnd box mag

Action: Recoil-actuated, Blowback

Rate of Fire: FAO

Muzzle Velocity: 2,240 f/s

Sights: Walther - Modell 36

List of current users:

The Kaizerreich of Deutschestag

Designed as a replacement for the aging Mg42/45 model machine-guns currently in use by almost every single branch of service and warrior order within the Khornatenreichs' vast territories and on the numerous fronts of "Der Krieg, der nie beendet." (The war that never ended.). What originally started out as a simple refit of an old and trusted design turned into a total and complete redesign, in typical DiG fashion, the concepts rapidly turned over-engineered massively complex devices to the simplest of concepts until finally falling an old tried and true industrial concept of over-engineering until a concept or design actually becomes "Simple". Taking the now rather tried and true roller-delayed blowback mechanism and giving said mechanism one hell of a powerful buffer-assembly alongside a plethora of manufacturing and metallurgical improvements brought into the process due to a solid decade and a quarter of scientific and industrial progress backing the very creation of the project. It was decided, consequently, that since the factories and the R&D center at Peenemünde (So it's relatively safe to assume that some nightmarish forms of occult research went down for that metallurgical tech advancement, probably involving warpfire and some form of unfathomably evil atrocities just for shits n' giggles).

Among the improvements brought to the old and trusted platform (what was left of it anyway, seriously, Speers' boys went to town on the ole' 42'.) was a far-sturdier, milled lower receiver, and a radiator block built around the chamber and base barrel socket to help cut the obscene amount of heat caused by the stupidly long "bursts" used by men in the field on the endless fronts and warzones of the ruined earth. Albeit vastly heavier than it's predecessor, the Mg58's usage of what can roughly be deemed a two and a half pound buffer assembly to go alongside the inclusion of the now stock-standard fluted chamber and muzzle assembly (Muzzle-cup/compensator/flash-hider hybrid, it's still loud as all fuck). Another set of upgrades includes a set of simplified yet efficient gauges installed under the feed tray to monitor barrel and chamber temperature to aid in prolonged fire (Primarily to prevent idiot Volksgrenadiers or penal units from welding the barrel to the chamber through constant uncontrolled bursts).


Name: DiG - Modell 1958 Standarten Maschinengewehr

Cartridge: 9.68x45mm Mauser (M)S.s Patrone

Ammunition Capacity: 75 - 200 round belts feeding from varying sources

Action: Roller delayed-blowback with massively varying weight bolts

Rate of Fire: 900 - 1000 - 1150 - 1515 rounds/min (Depending upon bolt weight)

Muzzle Velocity: 2,885 f/s

Sights: DiG - Modell 56 GPMG Sights

Originally derived from a scoped Modell 33' service rifle fiddled with for hunting Partisans in the Eurasian frontier, it quickly became apparent that troops outside of the "Untermenschen Jäger Bataillone" (or UJB as they were known in the record books from 1946-on) had quite a situation on their hands. Enough of one that the Hochmeister of the Red Order was ordered by the Reichsmarshall to bring forth two regiments of nothing but his most murderous, wrathful and fanatical Blutritter to aid in the extermination of partisans, subversives and to remove genetic noncompliance from as many of the locals going all the way to Olmsk (Where the reichs' reach ends and the territory of the "Verbrannten Abfälle" (scorched wastes) the likes of which have endured horrifying continuous atomic bombardment, warpfire incineration and shrieking souls. This singular rifle has seen more use in every "Dunkel Kreuzzug" than the swords and cannons of the Red Order alone in regard to slaughtering subversives and partisans, hunting them like elk in the endless shadowy haunted forests of the frontier.


Name: DiG - Modell 1953 Scharfschützen Gewehr

Cartridge: 9.68x45mm Mauser (M)S.s Patrone

Ammunition Capacity: 8 rounds

Action: Roller Delayed Blowback

Rate of Fire: 450-515 rounds/min

Muzzle Velocity: 2,885 f/s

Sights: DiG - Modell 48' Scharf-Optik

i might use em for my 50s Heer.

[Khornatenreich]

i might use em for my 50s Heer.

The GPMG, sidearm and sniper rifle could still see heavy use if modified all-to-hell like their IRL counterparts have been (SIG sidearms, the MG42/Mg3/CETME Ameli, that french bolt-action abomination that actually works beautifully and is still used to-this-day).

[The balkens]

i might use em for my 50s Heer.

The GPMG, sidearm and sniper rifle could still see heavy use if modified all-to-hell like their IRL counterparts have been (SIG sidearms, the MG42/Mg3/CETME Ameli, that french bolt-action abomination that actually works beautifully and is still used to-this-day).

Thanks.

[Khornatenreich]

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Thanks.

Well, you are a primarily German reichstaat, definitely not a weenie democracy. The Khornatenreich is doctrinally obligated to ship stupid huge amounts of ordinance on your doorstep. Remember though, enslave the inferiors of your world/country, or Khorne in his bloodgodly lordliness will shit misery and murder on your kaizers' soul. (K-reich, NT and proud).

[The balkens]

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Thanks.

Well, you are a primarily German reichstaat, definitely not a weenie democracy. The Khornatenreich is doctrinally obligated to ship stupid huge amounts of ordinance on your doorstep. Remember though, enslave the inferiors of your world/country, or Khorne in his bloodgodly lordliness will shit misery and murder on your kaizers' soul. (K-reich, NT and proud).

has anyone ever told you how terrifying you are?

[Yukonastan]

Well, you are a primarily German reichstaat, definitely not a weenie democracy. The Khornatenreich is doctrinally obligated to ship stupid huge amounts of ordinance on your doorstep. Remember though, enslave the inferiors of your world/country, or Khorne in his bloodgodly lordliness will shit misery and murder on your kaizers' soul. (K-reich, NT and proud).

has anyone ever told you how terrifying you are?

We know, Balkens, we know. No need to mention it again.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only Nazism. And war. Nazism and war.

[Khornatenreich]

Well, you are a primarily German reichstaat, definitely not a weenie democracy. The Khornatenreich is doctrinally obligated to ship stupid huge amounts of ordinance on your doorstep. Remember though, enslave the inferiors of your world/country, or Khorne in his bloodgodly lordliness will shit misery and murder on your kaizers' soul. (K-reich, NT and proud).

has anyone ever told you how terrifying you are?

Why no, no they haven't, but hey, social engineering for the generational fuckerymurder of an entire continents' population for industrial and ethnic annihilation matters/purposes is not an easy task.

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

Honestly though, I am not logged in as Ulfr-Reich, you want to talk about no shits given for a morally ambiguous faction that wouldn't be a "Good guy" or in the moral "right" if it involved the plunder of a thousand empires as a reward..........well....I need a drink.

[Yukonastan]

So, uh, Ulfr, what about all that K-reich kit you're so proud of? Lemme see.

[Khornatenreich]

has anyone ever told you how terrifying you are?

We know, Balkens, we know. No need to mention it again.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only Nazism. And war. Nazism and war.

Come now, it's “Ein Volk, Ein Vaterland, Ein Blut-Gott.” not “Ein Volk, Ein Vaterland, Ein Führer.”; thats' for people who trust the judgement of a man with deep-seated psychological trauma, coronary syphilis and a quack doctor giving a mixture of methadone and bohemian peasant feces as a cure-all. I mean, the first national motto sounds sooooooooo much better.

So, uh, Ulfr, what about all that K-reich kit you're so proud of? Lemme see.

Already TG'd you the gallery link.

[Fin Dovah Junaar]

(Image)

Pssh, any armor so far is inferior to the armor of our Knights!

Has a nice little amount of pouches, a dagger for parrying, back up, close kills, sword is maintained properly in the scabbard. Strong poise, fashionable neck warmer and coat, good protection for his shield arm and can you imagine this fine soldier half swording an enemy, getting in close and sliding his blade across a vile demons throat?

Purely amazing, 10/10...

Worthy of being the Knights of the Dovah (Not like they can say no anyways.)

Unoriginal/10

Forgot, how many nations in NS made the AK, AR15, etc....

If you have constructive criticism, I'll be sure to listen and give a damn next time.

(Image)

Pssh, any armor so far is inferior to the armor of our Knights!

Has a nice little amount of pouches, a dagger for parrying, back up, close kills, sword is maintained properly in the scabbard. Strong poise, fashionable neck warmer and coat, good protection for his shield arm and can you imagine this fine soldier half swording an enemy, getting in close and sliding his blade across a vile demons throat?

Purely amazing, 10/10...

Worthy of being the Knights of the Dovah (Not like they can say no anyways.)

Nothing special. All that is pretty typical for a knight with adequate gear. A bad knight is one who carries too much shit he doesn't need.

....

Oh shit, better make sure they haven't gotten random shit in their stuff again, we don't way any plates, tankards or a metric ass-ton worth of cabbages in there.

(Image)

Pssh, any armor so far is inferior to the armor of our Knights!

Has a nice little amount of pouches, a dagger for parrying, back up, close kills, sword is maintained properly in the scabbard. Strong poise, fashionable neck warmer and coat, good protection for his shield arm and can you imagine this fine soldier half swording an enemy, getting in close and sliding his blade across a vile demons throat?

Purely amazing, 10/10...

Worthy of being the Knights of the Dovah (Not like they can say no anyways.)

knights?

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Psssh, too exposed...

Can you even add a proper plume to yours?

Then again the amount of variety showed within your image is impressive.

[Yukonastan]

In other news, I just realized that my MMG either won't be semibullpup or won't be a bottom-ejecting MG1 derivative.

[Khornatenreich]

In other news, I just realized that my MMG either won't be semibullpup or won't be a bottom-ejecting MG1 derivative.

Become fascist, mostly german and some slight favoring of the Dark Gods and hey, you get an MG58 stockpile and manufacturing rights or whatever the fuck I art up to be next in line.

Or just fascist/national-socialist with a slight Dark Gods favoring, that works as well.

[Sediczja]

Unoriginal/10

Forgot, how many nations in NS made the AK, AR15, etc....

If you have constructive criticism, I'll be sure to listen and give a damn next time.

So you drew that yourself?