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The nation of rapture
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Postby The nation of rapture » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:43 am

yes, we burn our flag as an act of humility every year on our day of freedom. We don't allow burning of flags unless we are at war with said country, or if they are a right wing country.

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Rhyfelnydd
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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:45 am

Of course, so long as they don't burn anyone or anything else. It isn't a popular activity anyway.
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Postby New Waterford » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:49 am

Not in public. Not because it's treasonous, but because of the fire hazard. Likewise for the flag of the above nation, and any other large piece of fabric for that matter.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:04 am

Considering our flag is fire proof it's not so much a matter of not allowed as unable.
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Postby Sternberg » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:37 am

While our nation recognises a privilege to peacefully protest government and monarchy decision-making, we do not believe this should extend to a "right" to be needlessly disruptive. Rioting, arson and other mischievous activities under the guise of protesting, therefore, would be against the law.

We therefore ruled that the burning of a nation's lag (indeed, ANY nation's flag) is illegal. Citizens burning flags that they've owned as a sign of protest would be either fined (for first-time infractions) or would spend 24 hours in police lock-up for repeated offences. In addition, if a citizen deliberately burns a flag that does not belong to them, then they will be charged for destruction of private property and punished accordingly.

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Postby Gallifrey Secundaria » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:39 am

Allowed. Anyone who does it is just considered crazy, as the flag really doesn't matter much to us.
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Postby Welskerland » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:49 am

Welskians are free to burn any flag they want to as long as it is their's (e.g. They cannot burn a Welskian flag that is owned by someone else.) and it is on their property (or someone else's with their consent)
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Postby Aeternabilis » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:52 am

You can burn anything, as long as you have a permit. Flag-burning permits are rather hard to obtain, due to fumes given off and people are usually waving it around.
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Soasavo
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Postby Soasavo » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:56 am

Soasavoan citezens may burn any flag they would like as long as it doesn't become a large safety hazard.

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Kalevonia
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Postby Kalevonia » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:58 am

Flag burning is not a crime unless said flag happens to be the Kalevonian flag, in which case the accused person will face two weeks in jail and a 100 Kalevenik fine.

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Postby Serrian » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:58 am

Making any political statement, including flag-burning, is perfectly fine in Serrian, assuming it doesn't come to anyone's harm. Flag-burning unfortunately seems to accidentally turn to person-burning at times and that's when the police must involve itself.
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The Union of Tentacles and Grapes
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Postby The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:00 am

We have an unofficial flag-burning day. There is also an established policy to officially burn the flag of any nation that complains about our citizens burning their flag.

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The German Democratic Reich
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Postby The German Democratic Reich » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:08 am

It is Illegal to burn ANY deutsch flag, state, or empire, in the Reich.

All German nation's flags are protected by this.

Others are not.

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Postby Rencini » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:20 am

The advisers & council of James Rencini, leader of Rencini, have come into a state of shock this morning. There exists no such law! After some deliberations, a new law has been passed in our republic. The legality of such an action is dependent on the context and purpose of the burn, it is sanctioned & even recommended to burn the flag over a dead body, especially over military & public workers to symbolize their contribution to Rencini, not only did their death cause grieving for their family & friends, but they also cause grieving for our nation. The death of a public worker means a death for the state of Rencini; however, death must always come for new life to grow, so it is acceptable to burn the flag on festive occasions as long as there is an intent to replace the flag in a reasonable time-span, or if the flags were made for that specific purpose. Keeping in with the spirit of the law, these flags must be hand-made and not sold in commercial stores, as the ability to withstand hardship is another virtue of the nation.

On the other hand, burning any flag used in an official manner, or for official purposes is highly illegal and punished by being hanged, drawn, and quartered; burning the flag in contempt is effective to an immediate outlawing, as long as the Republic is concerned, that person is no longer under the protection of the state nor a citizen; if rich and hires private mercenaries/bodyguards, they may be used for the official purpose of training Rencini's defense forces, so not many agencies are eager to protect these individuals either.
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Euphorican
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Postby Euphorican » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:32 am

Burning the flag is unheard of, because of the zealous nature of Euphoricans. Every citizen is an extremely motivated patriot, with only one purpose in life, to serve Euphorican. Besides, with one person in five being an informant, any resistance would be stamped out before the offender even thought of a violation. Every Euphorican has the flag tatooed on the right arm at birth, along with the barcode of their citizen number.
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Principality of Savante
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Postby Principality of Savante » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:35 am

No. Flag burning isn't allowed. SavantIan Flag Is A Symbol Of Our National identity and is considered treason.

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Qandaristan
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Postby Qandaristan » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:38 am

Principality of Savante wrote:No. Flag burning isn't allowed. SavantIan Flag Is A Symbol Of Our National identity and is considered treason.

You are allowed to burn flags of enemy nations. But not flags of neutral and definetly not allies flags.

Burning flag of allies or Qandaristan will result in treason and punishment shall follow with prison in 6 months.
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Postby New Austzeland » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:52 am

Yes, due to freedom of speech & freedom of thought laws.
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Postby Racoda » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:09 am

Burning any flag, even enemies', is illegal, but not punishable. This form of protest is considered barbaric by the population.

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New Aerios
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Postby New Aerios » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:56 am

Sure, if you own a piece of fabric, there is absolutely nothing illegal about burning said piece of fabric.
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The Vagyarium
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Postby The Vagyarium » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:59 am

Burning the flag of the nation is illegal,but it is legal to burn the flag of the ruling family,any foreign flag is allowed to be burned.

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El Pialo
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Postby El Pialo » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:04 pm

Burning the Flag is Illegal because El Pialo Is too cool to give there Citizens rights

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Postby Norpan » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:26 pm

Only if it is to dispose of a ruined or otherwise "sullied" flag, and there are strict rules for how and when you can do it too. You can get a maximum 5 month jail sentence assigned to something like a chain gang(depending on the judge/jury) if you burn the flag in an act of protest, "art" or to otherwise "humiliate" the physical flag.
It is however allowed to print out paper with the flag on and burn it and similar acts, as long as it isn't a flag made out of what is traditionally considered a flag fabric, or hard to tell apart from a "real" flag.
Burning pictures of politicians and similar things is allowed if the police is noticed about it and can arrange for a safe way to burn them and dispose of the ashes/remains.

You are allowed to burn other nation's flags, but it is frowned upon, no matter what our current relations with them are, and police might start braking up protests where it happens if they consider them too wild, it also need to adhere to the notification and preparation rules.

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Arkiasis
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Postby Arkiasis » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:36 pm

Flag burning is protected as freedom of speech.
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Postby Wareto » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:38 pm

Sure, if you're willing to suffer the penalty of DEATH BY COMBAT. In otherwords, we throw you in a room, unarmed, full of 20 armed Everlyn Marines. You fight and survive, your free! :lol:
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