Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Tranche 7

[Erusuia]

*puts conscripted FPS players in charge of crewing unmanned turrets with Xbox controllers*

"get pwnd noob"

[Yukonastan]

*puts conscripted FPS players in charge of crewing unmanned turrets with Xbox controllers*

"get pwnd noob"

Interestingly enough [TANGENT AT 3 O CLOCK CLOSING FAST] soldiers nowadays make for better FPS players, since they understand the tactics to staying alive more than Jane Doe Average.

[Erusuia]

"get pwnd noob"

Interestingly enough [TANGENT AT 3 O CLOCK CLOSING FAST] soldiers nowadays make for better FPS players, since they understand the tactics to staying alive more than Jane Doe Average.

relevent

[Swedish Democratic Republic]

The ground vehicles of the SDR: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=swed ... /id=291627

Incomplete. Will be updated further in the future.

Any thoughts?

[Doppio Giudici]

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Interestingly enough [TANGENT AT 3 O CLOCK CLOSING FAST] soldiers nowadays make for better FPS players, since they understand the tactics to staying alive more than Jane Doe Average.

relevent

My father had no idea how to play any of these games and that was after he served for around 17 years.

#SecondGIJoeMovieIsSometimesCloserToTheTruth

[Radictistan]

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relevent

My father had no idea how to play any of these games and that was after he served for around 17 years.

#SecondGIJoeMovieIsSometimesCloserToTheTruth

I had my ass handed to me by a priest once.

[Padnak]

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My father had no idea how to play any of these games and that was after he served for around 17 years.

#SecondGIJoeMovieIsSometimesCloserToTheTruth

I had my ass handed to me by a priest once.

[Chebucto Provinces]

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My father had no idea how to play any of these games and that was after he served for around 17 years.

#SecondGIJoeMovieIsSometimesCloserToTheTruth

I had my ass handed to me by a priest once.

I personally know a 94 year old ex-nun who plays Call of Duty online every day, and is amazingly good at it.
Seriously amazingly good. It's absolutely hilarious to watch.

[Radictistan]

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My father had no idea how to play any of these games and that was after he served for around 17 years.

#SecondGIJoeMovieIsSometimesCloserToTheTruth

I had my ass handed to me by a priest once.

Technically he was still a deacon. Does that make things better?

[Lydenburg]

(don't get too wildly off topic, guys)

Nonsense. The best tank ever is the ARL-44.

you can't joke around about things like this

I'm afraid I don't entirely understand.

What was wrong with the ARL-44?

[Connori Pilgrims]

(don't get too wildly off topic, guys)



you can't joke around about things like this

I'm afraid I don't entirely understand.

What was wrong with the ARL-44?

1.) Suspension that was outdated in the 1930s in a tank built in the late 40s.

2.) Generally unreliable engines. In fairness this is probably due to the fact that it was almost literally scratch-built after liberation.

3.) Meh armour.

[Consortium of Manchukuo]

On the other hand even the French never expected for it to be a good vehicle, they wanted a transitional tank that could take advantage of off the shelf components in the initial form, provide them a vehicle that could assist the WW2 war effort quickly, give them design experience, help keep their industry and people in the tank industry intact, and restore prestige with their own tank industry. Taken in that light, it pretty much accomplished the latter goals, although admittedly the choice to move to the long 90 from the CA 39 delayed its introduction sufficiently for it to not enter WW2. Whether that makes it a "good tank" due to accomplishing its stated objectives is a matter for opinion though. Not a good combat vehicle for sure though.

[Novorden]

Oculus rifts and XBOX controllers for my tank commanders

For maximum :situational awareness: you mean?

Pretty much, have a virtual reality display mounted to a helmet in a way that it can be flip up (like NV goggles) if the user needs to see inside the tank/it breaks. And why design your own controller when you have a perfectly good commercial design that a large percentage of your population will already be familiar with.

Note I wont be using the head tracking function of the Oculus Rift/other VR, as when traveling at speeds the crew will be bounce around quite a bit.

EDIT:

hey Anemos guess what the 2nd result was when i searched for 'main battle tank'

[Lydenburg]

For maximum :situational awareness: you mean?

Pretty much, have a virtual reality display mounted to a helmet in a way that it can be flip up (like NV goggles) if the user needs to see inside the tank/it breaks. And why design your own controller when you have a perfectly good commercial design that a large percentage of your population will already be familiar with.

Note I wont be using the head tracking function of the Oculus Rift/other VR, as when traveling at speeds the crew will be bounce around quite a bit.

EDIT:

hey Anemos guess what the 2nd result was when i searched for 'main battle tank'

Ohai Olifant TTD.

...

Sorry, it took me a minute to notice the Anemos design.

[Crookfur]

For maximum :situational awareness: you mean?

Pretty much, have a virtual reality display mounted to a helmet in a way that it can be flip up (like NV goggles) if the user needs to see inside the tank/it breaks. And why design your own controller when you have a perfectly good commercial design that a large percentage of your population will already be familiar with.

Note I wont be using the head tracking function of the Oculus Rift/other VR, as when traveling at speeds the crew will be bounce around quite a bit.

EDIT:

hey Anemos guess what the 2nd result was when i searched for 'main battle tank'

IIRC the HMDs from the mounted soldier system are pretty much this well minus the x-box controllers

[Novorden]

Crew: 3 - Commander, Gunner, Driver
Dimensions and weight
Weight: 60 tonnes
Length: 8.2m (10.5m with gun forwards)
Width: 3.6m
Height: 2.3m to turret roof.

Armament
Main armament: 125 mm L50 smoothbore fed by bustle autoloader
Secondary armament: Coaxial dual feed 20 mm, 7×43 mm RWS
Elevation range: ___
Traverse range: 360 degrees
Ammunition load:
Main armament: 22 rounds in bustle autoloader, ___ in hull
Secondary armament: 2 x 200 rounds of 20mm (dual feed), 5 x 200 round box mags of 7×43 mm

Mobility
Engine: 1,500 hp MTU MT 883 diesel engine
Maximum speed: 72kmh
Range: 600km

I am undecided on where to store the rounds in the hull.

[The Kievan People]

Nowhere.

D:

[Orussia]

I am undecided on where to store the rounds in the hull.

One does not simply store rounds in the hull.

[Novorden]

Only having 22 rounds of ammo seems like a bad idea.

[Korva]

Only having 22 rounds of ammo seems like a bad idea.

You could have an additional external bustle on the turret.

Or you could pack a bunch of ammo next to the driver like in many other tanks.

[Novorden]

[Or you could pack a bunch of ammo next to the driver like in many other tanks.

Apparently that is a silly thing to do

How about this?
(Quick sketch, does not represent final product)

Based on the Abrams hull storage, there are 4 separate ammo racks each holding 3-4 rounds (haven't decided yet). Each compartment has its own blast door and blow out panels

This would bring the total ammo stored to either 38 (22+16) or 34 (22+12)

Problem communists?

[Yukonastan]

[Or you could pack a bunch of ammo next to the driver like in many other tanks.

Apparently that is a silly thing to do

How about this?
(Quick sketch, does not represent final product)

Based on the Abrams hull storage, there are 4 separate ammo racks each holding 3-4 rounds (haven't decided yet). Each compartment has its own blast door and, blow out panels

This would bring the total ammo stored to either 38 (22+16) or 34 (22+12)

Problem communists?

I say make the racks larger and capable of holding six shells (like a double-stack magazine.) 22+24=46.

[Orussia]

-snip-

If you put ammo there, where are your fuel tanks going to be?

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If the silly Ukrainians can do this with their T-64s, I figure I might as well do it with my T-14.
Still very much a WIP, I have to decide on what turret module I want to mount. Heck, might end up using a notAU-220.

[Novorden]

-snip-

If you put ammo there, where are your fuel tanks going to be?

The fuel tanks are in their own isolated compartments in the front of the tank, and/or they could be in the overtrack sponsons.

I think i may have posted this a while back:
interesting live fire trials (translated subtitles)

I say make the racks larger and capable of holding six shells (like a double-stack magazine.) 22+24=46.

I could fit 2 racks of 11, so can carry a full reload.

[Gallia-]

[Or you could pack a bunch of ammo next to the driver like in many other tanks.

Apparently that is a silly thing to do

How about this?
(Quick sketch, does not represent final product)

Based on the Abrams hull storage, there are 4 separate ammo racks each holding 3-4 rounds (haven't decided yet). Each compartment has its own blast door and blow out panels

This would bring the total ammo stored to either 38 (22+16) or 34 (22+12)

Problem communists?

Under the turret basket, no blowoff panels or anything that requires intrusion into the fighting compartment. That is the safest option without having bustle storage.