The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, Model 4

[Inquilabstan]

two to three meals a day?

So pampered. US troops get four MREs for three days of patrolling.

Troops in SIACHEN are given some frozen and pickled vegetables and wheat.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

What do you guys think of the concept of precision guided munitions companies at brigade level?

http://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.de/ ... y.html?m=1

They would provide both direct and indirect fires against point targets, and would use a variety of munition types (anti-tank, thermobaric, HE frag, etc.)

Sort of a hybrid between an anti-tank company and a rocket artillery battery.

I'll be needing this.

Half of the point of "OICW", today at least, is that they offer a high-precision capability to engage point targets at long range. This task does not require the firepower of a 40mm system, and allows more ammunition to be carried.

I think my forces will use something akin to the OICW and K11, albeit with up-sized bullet caliber. Other Immortals will have to be fought either with heavily armed drones or close combat.

I'm Kharkaran, BTW.

[Allanea]

Why are you eating in combat at all.

You eat when your buddy watches your position, so you can eat and not get taken by surprise, when you're done your buddy eats while you cover him.

And yet, in the actual trenches of WW2, there were people whose job was to deliver hot meals to the advancing front-line Soviet troops in Berlin, three times a day. Sometimes they failed. But certainly they existed.

[Imperializt Russia]

Most of the time soldiers aren't eating MREs even in combat.

What lol

Why are you eating in combat at all.

You eat when your buddy watches your position, so you can eat and not get taken by surprise, when you're done your buddy eats while you cover him.

The second something even remotely wrong happens you drop your food and get ready to get attacked. Even if your meal is now covered in dirt.

Don't worry son, the dirt never killed anyone. I think

It will when it's covered in a suspicious-looking grey topsoil.

[Aqizithiuda]

Had the OICW been useful, people would still be developing it.

Have you any evidence that it's not?

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Most of the time soldiers aren't eating MREs even in combat.

What lol

Why are you eating in combat at all.

You eat when your buddy watches your position, so you can eat and not get taken by surprise, when you're done your buddy eats while you cover him.

The second something even remotely wrong happens you drop your food and get ready to get attacked. Even if your meal is now covered in dirt.

Don't worry son, the dirt never killed anyone. I think

Of course. But what exactly would you give a Chinesesque/Japanesesque communist soldier for three or two meals?

two to three meals a day?

So pampered. US troops get four MREs for three days of patrolling.

Not sure if eating enough spam and rice to make yourself sick of it is considered pampered...

[United states of brazilian nations]

I view England and United Kingdom as I view America and United States.

They mean the exact same thing.

Until a butthurt South American starts complaining that "American" can mean anyone from the Americas.

Though at that point it is often best to just eject from the discussion.

ah, linguistical differences. in english: america=US, the americas = north america + central america + south america.
in spanish/portuguese: america=continent, Estados Unidos=US. the difference is that in english there is no continent named "america". there are "the americas". damn rosbif language.

but this is off-topic. let me apologize with moar guns.


delivering freedom to criminals and guerillas, the south american way.

[Gallia-]

Had the OICW been useful, people would still be developing it.

Hey great, guess what? They are!

FN FCU + M203 + 40mm HEAB.

The US Army realised that 20mm is actually a terrible caliber, and 25mm isn't much better, so it's just going to be putting muzzle devices on 40mm, FCUs on the M16, and using programmable rounds. Same concept, but less risk.

[Allanea]

So not actually doing a 10-kilogram immense rifle/semi-auto 20mm combo? How surprising.

[Doppio Giudici]

Had the OICW been useful, people would still be developing it.

Hey great, guess what? They are!

FN FCU + M203 + 40mm HEAB.

The US Army realised that 20mm is actually a terrible caliber, and 25mm isn't much better, so it's just going to be putting muzzle devices on 40mm, FCUs on the M16, and using programmable rounds. Same concept, but less risk.

What are you talking about?

[Rich and Corporations]

Had the OICW been useful, people would still be developing it.

Hey great, guess what? They are!

FN FCU + M203 + 40mm HEAB.

The US Army realised that 20mm is actually a terrible caliber, and 25mm isn't much better, so it's just going to be putting muzzle devices on 40mm, FCUs on the M16, and using programmable rounds. Same concept, but less risk.

Our military has too much emphasis on killing people. Next you know, we'll be adopting a general purpose cartridge.

Even if a 20mm round only wounds, it'll be effective as a suppressive fire tool in smoking out the enemy.

[Purpelia]

Our military has too much emphasis on killing people. Next you know, we'll be adopting a general purpose cartridge.

Even if a 20mm round only wounds, it'll be effective as a suppressive fire tool in smoking out the enemy.

And once they are out in the open and have dropped their guard we can move in and deliver cold steel.

[Allanea]

Only to discover the OICW has no bayonet mount.

[Doppio Giudici]

Explain how we're using mostly the same rifle and have gone thru three types of body armor? It seems like the army is learning to focus more on not dying then killing.

[The Peaceful Territories]

Is this how you deliver cold steel?

[Purpelia]

Only to discover the OICW has no bayonet mount.

An oversight that is easily corrected by the addition of one. Plus, if it's a single shot weapon you could safely make it so that the bayonet mounts around the top barrel (the rifle one) and has the handle inserted into the bottom one (the big 20 or 25mm one).

[Bezombia]

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Is this how you deliver cold steel?

you're gonna make me dig up the RAILGUN aren't you

[San-Silvacian]

Thats because lighter body armor types have been made available and meet the ability to defeat modern munitions.

[Spoder]

Hey great, guess what? They are!

FN FCU + M203 + 40mm HEAB.

The US Army realised that 20mm is actually a terrible caliber, and 25mm isn't much better, so it's just going to be putting muzzle devices on 40mm, FCUs on the M16, and using programmable rounds. Same concept, but less risk.

Our military has too much emphasis on killing people. Next you know, we'll be adopting a general purpose cartridge.

Even if a 20mm round only wounds, it'll be effective as a suppressive fire tool in smoking out the enemy.

Isn't suppressive fire meant to do the exact opposite?

[New Tsavon]

Updated.

[Allanea]

Explain how we're using mostly the same rifle and have gone thru three types of body armor? It seems like the army is learning to focus more on not dying then killing.

Because it's actually really difficult to upgrade a rifle meaningfully, whereas materials science has allowed several body armor upgrades.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Only to discover the OICW has no bayonet mount.

A flaw Kharkaran shall remedy with their not-K11.

[Spoder]

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Updated.

The grip looks way too small.

[San-Silvacian]

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The grip looks way too small.

n

its because the round is just that big.

[San-Silvacian]

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looks like the revolver from bioshock infinite.