The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, Model 4

[Fordorsia]

I know, but GDF Bersaglieri are basically the GDF version of the US Army Rangers.

Now that I think of it, probably should make the Bersaglieri Special Forces then.

So Zeinbrad speaks Italian as its primary language? Why are things like the 'Fusiliers' not called 'Fucilieri'?

Dutch, French, English and Nepali too. Zeinbrad national anthem

[Sediczja]

My memory fails me still ;_;

Eh, no worries Most of my recent stuff is done in Flash, with this being the last thing I ever did in PMG.

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A question:

Would it be sensible/feasible to incorporate my rifle platoon headquarters (PltCo, PltSgt, radio operator and medic) into one of the platoon's constituent sections and have separate headquarters from the company level upwards? Had this idea kicking about in my head for a bit.

[Proskoya]

My memory fails me still ;_;

Eh, no worries Most of my recent stuff is done in Flash, with this being the last thing I ever did in PMG.

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A question:

Would it be sensible/feasible to incorporate my rifle platoon headquarters (PltCo, PltSgt, radio operator and medic) into one of the platoon's constituent sections and have separate headquarters from the company level upwards? Had this idea kicking about in my head for a bit.

How is your normal section organized, just for curiosity sake?

If it were me and we were going by your average US military infantry platoon layout, I'd just keep that extra squad so the platoon lead has more men at his disposal instead of making two full squads and keeping anyone else attached to the PLT HQ at all times.

[Sediczja]

Eh, no worries Most of my recent stuff is done in Flash, with this being the last thing I ever did in PMG.

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A question:

Would it be sensible/feasible to incorporate my rifle platoon headquarters (PltCo, PltSgt, radio operator and medic) into one of the platoon's constituent sections and have separate headquarters from the company level upwards? Had this idea kicking about in my head for a bit.

How is your normal section organized, just for curiosity sake?

If it were me and we were going by your average US military infantry platoon layout, I'd just keep that extra squad so the platoon lead has more men at his disposal instead of making two full squads and keeping anyone else attached to the PLT HQ at all times.

I'm redrawing my section/platoon organisation as we speak, but there'd still be three sections to a platoon, just without a seperate HQ.

[Proskoya]

How is your normal section organized, just for curiosity sake?

If it were me and we were going by your average US military infantry platoon layout, I'd just keep that extra squad so the platoon lead has more men at his disposal instead of making two full squads and keeping anyone else attached to the PLT HQ at all times.

I'm redrawing my section/platoon organisation as we speak, but there'd still be three sections to a platoon, just without a seperate HQ.

Trying to clarify ... so the PLT HQ would have a section combined with it at all times and there would be no section leader for that or are you envisioning that the Company HQ leads these sections directly?

I'm confused and everyone can tell I had a rough night lol

[Sediczja]

I'm redrawing my section/platoon organisation as we speak, but there'd still be three sections to a platoon, just without a seperate HQ.

Trying to clarify ... so the PLT HQ would have a section combined with it at all times and there would be no section leader for that or are you envisioning that the Company HQ leads these sections directly?

I'm confused and everyone can tell I had a rough night lol

The platoon HQ would replace four or so men from the first section in the platoon, is what I'm trying to get at. They'd still lead the platoon, just not from a separate group.

[Proskoya]

Trying to clarify ... so the PLT HQ would have a section combined with it at all times and there would be no section leader for that or are you envisioning that the Company HQ leads these sections directly?

I'm confused and everyone can tell I had a rough night lol

The platoon HQ would replace four or so men from the first section in the platoon, is what I'm trying to get at. They'd still lead the platoon, just not from a separate group.

Ahhhh okay.

Hmm. It would probably be a better thing to do if you're considering this for a vehicle-borne infantry platoon. You'd probably be able to get out of getting an extra vehicle for one platoon and save resources in doing so. As far as how that affects how the squad is led, I'm unsure if anything will change.

The way I have my squads organized, I keep a separate PLT HQ and I have 3 sections. 2 normal infantry sections and 1 medium weapons section. 4 vehicles for one platoon and the 4 men in the HQ ride in the 4th extra vehicle, along with a small amount of ammunition and other supplies.

[Zeinbrad]

So Zeinbrad speaks Italian as its primary language? Why are things like the 'Fusiliers' not called 'Fucilieri'?

Dutch, French, English and Nepali too. Zeinbrad national anthem

Till all are one.

[Immoren]

Trying to clarify ... so the PLT HQ would have a section combined with it at all times and there would be no section leader for that or are you envisioning that the Company HQ leads these sections directly?

I'm confused and everyone can tell I had a rough night lol

The platoon HQ would replace four or so men from the first section in the platoon, is what I'm trying to get at. They'd still lead the platoon, just not from a separate group.

You'd probably not want all former platoon HQ in first section. Better it be that for example 1st section has platoon leader and 3rd section had platoon 2iC in charge. Depending on tech level do away with heavy radios, or give reliable rifleman in PL's and 2iC's section a radio. Also if you want to do away with indenpendent HQ team, probably best to do away with platoon medic, just train platoon's members more intensively in first aid and try to rely on company level as first level of "proper" medical aid and CASEVAC.

[Sediczja]

The platoon HQ would replace four or so men from the first section in the platoon, is what I'm trying to get at. They'd still lead the platoon, just not from a separate group.

You'd probably not want all former platoon HQ in first section. Better it be that for example 1st section has platoon leader and 3rd section had platoon 2iC in charge. Depending on tech level do away with heavy radios, or give reliable rifleman in PL's and 2iC's section a radio. Also if you want to do away with indenpendent HQ team, probably best to do away with platoon medic, just train platoon's members more intensively in first aid and try to rely on company level as first level of "proper" medical aid and CASEVAC.

Sounds like a better idea, seems like your way would allow for a bit more casualty tolerance. Cheers.

[Chebucto Provinces]

Playing section-maker again while I have downtime at work.

Section leader: Rifle, pistol.
Marksman: marksman rifle w/optic, pistol.

Team leader: Rifle w/underslung grenade launcher.
Rifleman: Rifle w/underslung shotgun.
Automatic rifleman: automatic rifle.

Team leader: Rifle w/underslung grenade launcher.
Rifleman: Rifle w/underslung shotgun.
Automatic rifleman: automatic rifle.

ATGMs and MANPADs are at the company level, as are LMGs. Section marksman is also 2ic.

Alternatively I have considered a third team of marksman/light mortar and LMG for a total of 10 troops.

[Proskoya]

Playing section-maker again while I have downtime at work.

Section leader: Rifle, pistol.
Marksman: marksman rifle w/optic, pistol.

Team leader: Rifle w/underslung grenade launcher.
Rifleman: Rifle w/underslung shotgun.
Automatic rifleman: automatic rifle.

Team leader: Rifle w/underslung grenade launcher.
Rifleman: Rifle w/underslung shotgun.
Automatic rifleman: automatic rifle.

ATGMs and MANPADs are at the company level, as are LMGs. Section marksman is also 2ic.

Alternatively I have considered a third team of marksman/light mortar and LMG for a total of 10 troops.

I think there should be at least one person with an LMG on your section, and you only really need one guy with a shotgun (underslung or separate). I wouldn't really worry about having marksmen at this level quite yet. That could probably be replaced by an ammo man for the LMG, if the LMG is heavy enough to warrant that. What kind of LMG do you issue?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

↑ Dis

-Rifle Section

*Section IC | MKb. 21¹ w/Optic
*Section 2IC | MKb. 21 w/Optic
*Rifleman | MKb. 31², RPG-22
*Rifleman | MKb. 31, RPG-22
*Rifleman | MKb. 31, RPG-22
*Grenadier | PAW-20, Machine Pistol
*Marksman | Gewehr 43, Machine Pistol³
*Machine Gunner | MG42
*Assistant Machine Gunner | MKb. 21, MG Ammunition
*Assistant Machine Gunner | MKb. 21, MG Ammunition

1) Carbine variant of the MKb. 31
2) Essentially, a modern day tactilol Gerät 06. 7,92mm Kurz and all.
3) Did

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Plausibility of a light autocannon armed, six legged, lightly armoured BigDog derivative for. . . something. NotODSTs perhaps.

[EsToVnIa]

They just need an anti-grav sled for their drones

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

They just need an anti-grav sled for their drones

Hmm?

[Allanea]

So Zeinbrad speaks Italian as its primary language? Why are things like the 'Fusiliers' not called 'Fucilieri'?

Dutch, French, English and Nepali too. Zeinbrad national anthem

Like a bad thing.

[Imperializt Russia]

↑ Dis

-Rifle Section

*Section IC | MKb. 21¹ w/Optic
*Section 2IC | MKb. 21 w/Optic
*Rifleman | MKb. 31², RPG-22
*Rifleman | MKb. 31, RPG-22
*Rifleman | MKb. 31, RPG-22
*Grenadier | PAW-20, Machine Pistol
*Marksman | Gewehr 43, Machine Pistol³
*Machine Gunner | MG42
*Assistant Machine Gunner | MKb. 21, MG Ammunition
*Assistant Machine Gunner | MKb. 21, MG Ammunition

1) Carbine variant of the MKb. 31
2) Essentially, a modern day tactilol Gerät 06. 7,92mm Kurz and all.
3) Did

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Plausibility of a light autocannon armed, six legged, lightly armoured BigDog derivative for. . . something. NotODSTs perhaps.

I think you're looking more at a 20mm "grenade"-launching weapon in the vein of PAW-20. Maybe 25mm, like lightened XM309.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I think you're looking more at a 20mm "grenade"-launching weapon in the vein of PAW-20. Maybe 25mm, like lightened XM309.

Sorry, I botched that one. "Light autocannon" sounds substantially cooler than "20mm GMG." I am imagining a rapid fire GMG firing either a steel cased, +P 20x42mm shell.

[Bezombia]

remington 700 firing 10-gauge shot

why/whynot

[Spirit of Hope]

I think you're looking more at a 20mm "grenade"-launching weapon in the vein of PAW-20. Maybe 25mm, like lightened XM309.

Sorry, I botched that one. "Light autocannon" sounds substantially cooler than "20mm GMG." I am imagining a rapid fire GMG firing either a steel cased, +P 20x42mm shell.

I could see this being used. Would it be an autonomous firing system or would it have a controller and/or would it simply be for carrying the gun?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

remington 700 firing 10-gauge shot

why/whynot

Wh. . . why?

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I could see this being used. Would it be an autonomous firing system or would it have a controller and/or would it simply be for carrying the gun?

I'm hoping for a largely autonomous system, with provisions for a human operator should the need arise. The only issue(s) I see are civilians, which would likely be a fairly large concern considering said spider walker things are meant mostly for combat in urban areas.

Perhaps I could handwave into existence a program that would identify and engage targets based on whether they were armed or not?

[Bezombia]

remington 700 firing 10-gauge shot

why/whynot

Wh. . . why?

two reasons

1: because it's possible
2: because it's neat

[Spirit of Hope]

I could see this being used. Would it be an autonomous firing system or would it have a controller and/or would it simply be for carrying the gun?

I'm hoping for a largely autonomous system, with provisions for a human operator should the need arise. The only issue(s) I see are civilians, which would likely be a fairly large concern considering said spider walker things are meant mostly for combat in urban areas.

Perhaps I could handwave into existence a program that would identify and engage targets based on whether they were armed or not?

Possibly. How would it carry out IFF, which would be another significant problem? If you have it working with soldiers (like it has an integrated squad to fight with it) you might have it engage only targets in designated areas.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

two reasons

1: because it's possible
2: because it's neat

Carry on then.

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Possibly. How would it carry out IFF, which would be another significant problem? If you have it working with soldiers (like it has an integrated squad to fight with it) you might have it engage only targets in designated areas.

I imagine some form of IFF system, probably RFID based, could be added into the existing suite of futrsoldr goodies (see: smartphone and Bluetooth) I issue. It wouldn't need to be much, likely the standard name rank and SN.

[Spirit of Hope]

Possibly. How would it carry out IFF, which would be another significant problem? If you have it working with soldiers (like it has an integrated squad to fight with it) you might have it engage only targets in designated areas.

I imagine some form of IFF system, probably RFID based, could be added into the existing suite of futrsoldr goodies (see: smartphone and Bluetooth) I issue. It wouldn't need to be much, likely the standard name rank and SN.

Problem with that is your enemy could use it to figure out numbers and locations of troops easily.