Your Nation's Air Force Mark II:

[New Vihenia]

I don't suppose any of you know how the Soviet aircraft serial numbers work? Because they are all numbered like so: 01, 40, 50, 54, 304. What does the number mean? Is it specific to that aircraft, or to that aircraft of that type, or specific to that unit or what?

They're simply tactical codes of the aircraft, hmm i'll dig up something later.

[Triplebaconation]

It's just a number. Doesn't mean anything.

[Bratislavskaya]

It's just a number. Doesn't mean anything.

It must mean something or they wouldn't have it on there. They didn't just paint random numbers on there.

[Triplebaconation]

That's exactly what they did, sorry.

[Spirit of Hope]

It's just a number. Doesn't mean anything.

It must mean something or they wouldn't have it on there. They didn't just paint random numbers on there.

Well if it means something your opponent might figure out what it means and then gain valuable intelligence from those numbers in the future. If it is a random number you enemy gains confusion and no tactical or strategic information.

[The Soodean Imperium]

It must mean something or they wouldn't have it on there. They didn't just paint random numbers on there.

Well if it means something your opponent might figure out what it means and then gain valuable intelligence from those numbers in the future. If it is a random number you enemy gains confusion and no tactical or strategic information.

Apparently when the first of the Kievs sailed out into the Mediterranean, the crew would regularly take the planes below between sorties and repaint their numbers, briefly giving puzzled Western intelligence groups the impression that close to a hundred Yak-38s were carried.

[Bratislavskaya]

Well if it means something your opponent might figure out what it means and then gain valuable intelligence from those numbers in the future. If it is a random number you enemy gains confusion and no tactical or strategic information.

Apparently when the first of the Kievs sailed out into the Mediterranean, the crew would regularly take the planes below between sorties and repaint their numbers, briefly giving puzzled Western intelligence groups the impression that close to a hundred Yak-38s were carried.

I doubt they did that with most aircraft though, or at least that often.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Apparently when the first of the Kievs sailed out into the Mediterranean, the crew would regularly take the planes below between sorties and repaint their numbers, briefly giving puzzled Western intelligence groups the impression that close to a hundred Yak-38s were carried.

I doubt they did that with most aircraft though, or at least that often.

Not on a regular, nation-wide basis, no. You can only give the impression that your carrier has four times its actual capacity for so long before people start noticing problems.

But if aircraft are assigned numbers on a regular, predictable logic - i.e., first digit is Wing, second is Squadron, third is individual plane - then your opponent can pick out a grainy photograph of one of your fighters marked "234" and say "look, their 2nd Air Wing is stationed in area A, last we checked it was in area B, this means they're moving forces to area A and are possibly preparing for an attack." The same, sadly, applies to painted numbers on ground vehicles.

[Kouralia]

Ah, now the not!Nimrod gets targeted by the stricken Kirov, at ~3 miles range. *boom*

The first things to strike the Kouralian National Air Force Maritime Patrol Aircraft were a smattering of CIWS shells, ripping enough holes in the fuselage and wings to leave half the engines inoperable, a swathe of the crew dead and the aircraft almost utterly unresponsive to the controls. However, Lively barely had time to react to the sudden aggression by the cruiser, because moments later the first SAM detonated in close proximity to the stricken aircraft. Tearing into the large plane with all the efficiency of a Russian surface to air missile, Callsign Insieme was blasted apart in midair, pieces of rent-asunder wreckage and cooked corpses raining down into the ocean.

Now just to wait for the Blackburn Buccaneer and other planes to get into range to spam AShMs.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Good luck, if you can get in twenty or more you'll overload the firecontrol (8 S-300 channels, 4 Osa channels on 2 Pop Groups and probs 4 channels for Tor). Two of those firecontrol radars are restricted to the stern for Osas even. Getting subsonic missiles past the radar and optically guided Kashtans and AK-630's might be an issue.

[San-Silvacian]

Depending on how high the they are coming in, the Kirov is watching them from 450~ km, then firing within 200 km (iirc range for S-300F)

[United Marxist Nations]

So, right now, I'm thinking about 400 Eurofighter Typhoon's, 12 E-3 Sentry's (AWACS), 19 C-5 Galaxy, 11 C-17 Globemaster, 45 Locheed TriS, and 60 Harrier II's (as ground attack aircraft).

Anything I'd be missing. As a nation of 5.7 Billion, I assume I have plenty of money to afford these expenses.

[Transnapastain]

So, right now, I'm thinking about 400 Eurofighter Typhoon's, 12 E-3 Sentry's (AWACS), 19 C-5 Galaxy, 11 C-17 Globemaster, 45 Locheed TriS, and 60 Harrier II's (as ground attack aircraft).

Anything I'd be missing. As a nation of 5.7 Billion, I assume I have plenty of money to afford these expenses.

Depending on your military numbers, your airlift is lacking.

Actually, no. It doesn't depend on your numbers. Needs more airlift, much, much more airlift.

[Organized States]

So, right now, I'm thinking about 400 Eurofighter Typhoon's, 12 E-3 Sentry's (AWACS), 19 C-5 Galaxy, 11 C-17 Globemaster, 45 Locheed TriS, and 60 Harrier II's (as ground attack aircraft).

Anything I'd be missing. As a nation of 5.7 Billion, I assume I have plenty of money to afford these expenses.

Might I suggest the A330 MRTT in place of the TriStar? Maybe some C-130Js and perhaps the F-35Bs instead of the Harriers if you really want to go UK.

[Gallia-]

Actually, I was chatting with the other player by TG, and he's confirmed that the Kirov is not engaging the Nimrod at all.

2 miles is about 3.22 km's. At that range eyeball Mk. 1 with good vision can detect, probably identify your roundels unaided (certainly with a pair of binoculars) and most likely to be able to start shooting your Nimrod up with machine guns and 20 mm+ mounts. Which thread is this because I must congratulate the Kirov owner on his utmost stupidity.

Pictured: Utmost stupidity on part of Oriskany.



What kind of a moron lets a maritime reconnaissance aircraft come within visual range?!?

[Triplebaconation]

Apparently when the first of the Kievs sailed out into the Mediterranean, the crew would regularly take the planes below between sorties and repaint their numbers, briefly giving puzzled Western intelligence groups the impression that close to a hundred Yak-38s were carried.

I doubt they did that with most aircraft though, or at least that often.

Bort numbers (bortozoi numers or something) are random and changed periodically but probably not often. They don't have any special significance other than identifying aircraft within a unit - the MiG-28 or whatever posted earlier would be "Red-36." Certain trials and training aircraft will have 3-digit numbers that are equally meaningless.

[United Marxist Nations]

So, right now, I'm thinking about 400 Eurofighter Typhoon's, 12 E-3 Sentry's (AWACS), 19 C-5 Galaxy, 11 C-17 Globemaster, 45 Locheed TriS, and 60 Harrier II's (as ground attack aircraft).

Anything I'd be missing. As a nation of 5.7 Billion, I assume I have plenty of money to afford these expenses.

Might I suggest the A330 MRTT in place of the TriStar? Maybe some C-130Js and perhaps the F-35Bs instead of the Harriers if you really want to go UK.

Looking it up, the TriStar carried more fuel. The F-35B seemed unnecessarily expensive for just a ground attack aircraft.

[United Marxist Nations]

So, right now, I'm thinking about 400 Eurofighter Typhoon's, 12 E-3 Sentry's (AWACS), 19 C-5 Galaxy, 11 C-17 Globemaster, 45 Locheed TriS, and 60 Harrier II's (as ground attack aircraft).

Anything I'd be missing. As a nation of 5.7 Billion, I assume I have plenty of money to afford these expenses.

Depending on your military numbers, your airlift is lacking.

Actually, no. It doesn't depend on your numbers. Needs more airlift, much, much more airlift.

That's what I figured I'd be most in need of. So, how about 35 C-5, and 38 C-17?

[Organized States]

Might I suggest the A330 MRTT in place of the TriStar? Maybe some C-130Js and perhaps the F-35Bs instead of the Harriers if you really want to go UK.

Looking it up, the TriStar carried more fuel. The F-35B seemed unnecessarily expensive for just a ground attack aircraft.

I was just thinking you might want more airframe hours out of the aircraft.

[Transnapastain]

Depending on your military numbers, your airlift is lacking.

Actually, no. It doesn't depend on your numbers. Needs more airlift, much, much more airlift.

That's what I figured I'd be most in need of. So, how about 35 C-5, and 38 C-17?

You're still using less planes than even the US.

USAF lists 213 C-17's and 52 C-5's

Your Army is, I'd venture to guess, much larger than the US's, which means, if you want to get your people, equipment, munitions, and supplies anywhere through airlift, you'll be need quite a bit more. You have other options in the form of sea lift, as well as co-opting civilian airlines.

Also, C-130's or something like it would be good. Sometimes, you just need a small tactical transport.

[United Marxist Nations]

That's what I figured I'd be most in need of. So, how about 35 C-5, and 38 C-17?

You're still using less planes than even the US.

USAF lists 213 C-17's and 52 C-5's

Your Army is, I'd venture to guess, much larger than the US's, which means, if you want to get your people, equipment, munitions, and supplies anywhere through airlift, you'll be need quite a bit more. You have other options in the form of sea lift, as well as co-opting civilian airlines.

Also, C-130's or something like it would be good. Sometimes, you just need a small tactical transport.

Actually, I don't think my army would be that big; I want it to me somewhat realistic. I don't roleplay, I just like military equipment, which is my reason to do this. So, if I later find my desires are different, then I'll change it.

[South Pacific Republic]

Just reading what people have here makes my air force look like a pile of junk

[Organized States]

Just reading what people have here makes my air force look like a pile of junk

Hmm, I'd drop the Sabre variants, as well as the bombers.

[South Pacific Republic]

Just reading what people have here makes my air force look like a pile of junk

Hmm, I'd drop the Sabre variants, as well as the bombers.

Nonsense

[United Marxist Nations]

Just reading what people have here makes my air force look like a pile of junk

Where is yours? Also, it depends on what you're RP-ing as; if I RP-ed, I'd do it as a developed country; however, if I were a developing country, I'd have completely different needs and availability.