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Transoxthraxia wrote:Guys, I've got a question. I'm looking to mount a 90mm Cannon on either a medium or heavy tank (Mid-to-late WW2 Era), and I've got two prototypes right now, here. Any opinion on which is better?

The longer one makes me think of the T34/85 later models as compared to the T34/76 early models.

I think for practical and performance reasons, a medium tank of the era wouldn't mount a 90mm without a decent size muzzle brake, which I didn't see in either drawing. The Sherman Firefly/105mm had a fairly significant muzzle brake, if memory serves. And the Russians only mounted a 100mm gun as a fixed forward weapon in their SU100 Assault Gun to counter the Jagdpanzer.

Not discounting the merits of putting a 90mm gun on a tank of WWII era - it could do a lot of damage against tanks built to perform against 75 or 76mm projectiles. However, remember the Germans deployed 88mm guns not unlike a 90mm in only the heaviest tanks (Tiger I, etc.).

I'd suggest looking at a more modern 90mm like the Cockerill, or the ones that were mounted on the M48 tank to get ideas if you want something light enough to fit to a medium tank. Otherwise, you're probably building a heavy for it.

Gear 1 wrote:

Transoxthraxia wrote:Guys, I've got a question. I'm looking to mount a 90mm Cannon on either a medium or heavy tank (Mid-to-late WW2 Era), and I've got two prototypes right now, here. Any opinion on which is better?

The longer one makes me think of the T34/85 later models as compared to the T34/76 early models.

I think for practical and performance reasons, a medium tank of the era wouldn't mount a 90mm without a decent size muzzle brake, which I didn't see in either drawing. The Sherman Firefly/105mm had a fairly significant muzzle brake, if memory serves. And the Russians only mounted a 100mm gun as a fixed forward weapon in their SU100 Assault Gun to counter the Jagdpanzer.

Not discounting the merits of putting a 90mm gun on a tank of WWII era - it could do a lot of damage against tanks built to perform against 75 or 76mm projectiles. However, remember the Germans deployed 88mm guns not unlike a 90mm in only the heaviest tanks (Tiger I, etc.).

I'd suggest looking at a more modern 90mm like the Cockerill, or the ones that were mounted on the M48 tank to get ideas if you want something light enough to fit to a medium tank. Otherwise, you're probably building a heavy for it.

The Pershing was considered a heavy tank during the war, but became a medium one after it.

It stands to reason that the maximum size of the gun practically is dependent on size.

Gear 1 wrote:

Transoxthraxia wrote:Guys, I've got a question. I'm looking to mount a 90mm Cannon on either a medium or heavy tank (Mid-to-late WW2 Era), and I've got two prototypes right now, here. Any opinion on which is better?

The longer one makes me think of the T34/85 later models as compared to the T34/76 early models.

I think for practical and performance reasons, a medium tank of the era wouldn't mount a 90mm without a decent size muzzle brake, which I didn't see in either drawing. The Sherman Firefly/105mm had a fairly significant muzzle brake, if memory serves. And the Russians only mounted a 100mm gun as a fixed forward weapon in their SU100 Assault Gun to counter the Jagdpanzer.

Not discounting the merits of putting a 90mm gun on a tank of WWII era - it could do a lot of damage against tanks built to perform against 75 or 76mm projectiles. However, remember the Germans deployed 88mm guns not unlike a 90mm in only the heaviest tanks (Tiger I, etc.).

I'd suggest looking at a more modern 90mm like the Cockerill, or the ones that were mounted on the M48 tank to get ideas if you want something light enough to fit to a medium tank. Otherwise, you're probably building a heavy for it.

Right. I didn't quite know what type of tank I should've mounted the 90 on, but I think I'll put it on the heavy tank then, and I'll use a 48 or 54mm on the medium tank.

WW2 Medium tank I hear? http://iiwiki.com/wiki/GR-38

Graditora wrote:WW2 Medium tank I hear? http://iiwiki.com/wiki/GR-38

AMX-50-100 is superior medium tank.

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San-Silvacian wrote:

Graditora wrote:WW2 Medium tank I hear? http://iiwiki.com/wiki/GR-38

AMX-50-100 is superior medium tank.

AMX-50-100 is a heavy and is inferior to GR-38A3O because "success".

Graditora wrote:

San-Silvacian wrote:
AMX-50-100 is superior medium tank.

AMX-50-100 is a heavy and is inferior to GR-38A3O because "success".

Glory to IKS masterrace

That sir is a thing of beauty. By the looks it is also a bringer of death.

"Mikhail, what is of tank in front of us?"

"Is of bitch tank, gib many 120mm boolets to face."

UG-92

Ma first attempt at a tank lineart, based on Jeff Highs T-80 chassis

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

UG-92

Ma first attempt at a tank lineart, based on Jeff Highs T-80 chassis

Is there supposed to be ERA on the side as well?

Are you going to use camo?

Other then that it looks awesome.

Version with much better frontal turret armor

The stuff on the front of the turret is ERA with spaced armor under it but other then that the tank is ERA free, and I sadly lack the skillz to make camo lol.

The thing on the back of the turret is a basket for extra supplies/ slat armor

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Version with much better frontal turret armor

The stuff on the front of the turret is ERA with spaced armor under it but other then that the tank is ERA free, and I sadly lack the skillz to make camo lol.

On the JG forum there is a whole section of camo, I recommend blowing it up to 400% for tanks.

Now some small improvements

I think I'm going to leave it camo-less, I kind of like the drab dust colours

A light machine gun I've been stuck on for a while now. I think I like it.

Features pull-back feed with switchable feed tray modules, allowing for pan magazines, box magazines, left, or right handed belt feed. Ejection is always to the right.

And of course quick-swap barrels.

Now with a lower profile turret

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Now with a lower profile turret

I like this one better.

Cash bribes only.

Fear the Torsiedellie-variant T-80!



And the new and improved Praetorian MBT, with changed up gun, ERA, and gun turret/fuel tank. I forget whether I actually posted it before or not...

UG-92M, projecting glory over the steppe

Torsiedelle wrote:Fear the Torsiedellie-variant T-80!

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And the new and improved Praetorian MBT, with changed up gun, ERA, and gun turret/fuel tank. I forget whether I actually posted it before or not...

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Wow, your work has gotten a lot better. I might start taking tips from you as well.

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

UG-92M, projecting glory over the steppe

Looks really nice.

Glory to IKS masterrace, glory to the otechestvo!

Moriskov wrote:(Image)

Glory to IKS masterrace, glory to the otechestvo!

That is one fuckhuge gun for such a small tank...

all the better to rule all teh clay.

Already posted on the warship thread, but whatever.

Cut/Paste!

So...I made my first ship.



Don't ask me what it is. Your guess is as good as mine. I just opened Paint.NET and went crazy. Considering I just wanted to make something that resembled a ship, I'm proud of it.

I don't plan on this being an actual warship, but...maybe with some modifications, I could use it for military whaling (we use giant, mutated whales as shore defense. Don't ask).