Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Evening all.
In the interest of velocity (and perhaps bullet commonality between pistol and rifle), how light could I make a 7.62mm bullet?

Make it a 7mm bullet. You'll get 20% more efficiency and a flatter trajectory for the same recoil level.

Attempting to keep über common/cheap 7.62x39mm for MMW.
Perhaps 10mm Auto necked down to 7.62mm...

Edit: Oh snap, gunporn!

[Sevvania]

Isn't the RPG-7 massively outdated for its intended role at this point?

It's about as outdated as the AKM. Which is to say, it's old, but still pretty good at what it does.

[Transnapastain]

Isn't the RPG-7 massively outdated for its intended role at this point?

No, not really. The launcher does what it needs to do and it does it well. Many of the modern warheads are suited to their intended targets.

[Peoples Republic of Rome]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

[Vareiln]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

You'll regret that. It's not cool to not have a stock.

[Transnapastain]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

Just use the AKS-74 (Or the AK-74M as Spree said). That way, the morons in your Army can fold the stock and fire form the hip, whereas the pros can use the stock as intended.

[Spreewerke]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

The RPD sucks (I guess: actually works well enough from what I've seen, but go with me here) in comparison to the RPK. That's why it replaced the RPD.

Instead, try this:

RESERVE FORCES: Mosin M91/30, AKM(N), SKS.
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M, AK-103
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP

[The Republic of Lanos]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

Just use the AKS-74. That way, the morons in your Army can fold the stock and fire form the hip, whereas the pros can use the stock as intended.

Accuracy is for n00bs.

[Peoples Republic of Rome]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

You'll regret that. It's not cool to not have a stock.

Bu... but... but it looks cool! (I'm joking of course, I would never put aesthetics over functionality.)

[Vareiln]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

The RPD sucks (I guess: actually works well enough from what I've seen, but go with me here) in comparison to the RPK. That's why it replaced the RPD.

Instead, try this:

RESERVE FORCES: Mosin M91/30, AKM(N), SKS.
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M, AK-103
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP

I support this.

[Eastern Slavia]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

The RPD sucks (I guess: actually works well enough from what I've seen, but go with me here) in comparison to the RPK. That's why it replaced the RPD.

Instead, try this:

RESERVE FORCES: Mosin M91/30, AKM(N), SKS.
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M, AK-103
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP

RESERVE FORCES: AK-74M
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP


fix'd.



there is zero reason for reserves to not have the same weapon as line infantry. If they can afford 74/103's for the line troops, they should be able to get them for reserves since it would be pretty silly to not have enough extras around

[Empire of Hong Kong]

Standard issue. L85 A2.
Machine gunner support troops. M240B.
Snipers. M98B.
Standard sidearm. Glock G18.

[Peoples Republic of Rome]

Sorry guys, I confused the rpd with the pkp.

[San-Silvacian]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-)

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD.

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

The RPD sucks (I guess: actually works well enough from what I've seen, but go with me here) in comparison to the RPK. That's why it replaced the RPD.

Instead, try this:

RESERVE FORCES: Mosin M91/30, AKM(N), SKS.
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M, AK-103
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP

iirc RPD was replaced because the RPK offered more commonality with the AK. Also because RPD sucks.

[Vareiln]

The RPD sucks (I guess: actually works well enough from what I've seen, but go with me here) in comparison to the RPK. That's why it replaced the RPD.

Instead, try this:

RESERVE FORCES: Mosin M91/30, AKM(N), SKS.
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M, AK-103
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP

RESERVE FORCES: AK-74M
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP


fix'd.



there is zero reason for reserves to not have the same weapon as line infantry. If they can afford 74/103's for the line troops, they should be able to get them for reserves since it would be pretty silly to not have enough extras around

lrn 2 post-soviet state

[Spreewerke]

The RPD sucks (I guess: actually works well enough from what I've seen, but go with me here) in comparison to the RPK. That's why it replaced the RPD.

Instead, try this:

RESERVE FORCES: Mosin M91/30, AKM(N), SKS.
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M, AK-103
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP

RESERVE FORCES: AK-74M
MAIN INFANTRY: AK-74M
SUPPORT INFANTRY: SVD, PKP


fix'd.



there is zero reason for reserves to not have the same weapon as line infantry. If they can afford 74/103's for the line troops, they should be able to get them for reserves since it would be pretty silly to not have enough extras around

The M91/30, AKM, and SKS are the extras.

[Eastern Slavia]

lrn 2 post-soviet state

lrn2 no post soviet nation outside Ukraine(because lol90s Ukraine..) had mixed line infantry weapons. Even if you look at the --stans and Georgia, unless they were in the transition phase, in which case they had more of one then the other, it would simply cost less to just pick one and phase out the others over time. Keeping them in storage is a different story.

The M91/30, AKM, and SKS are the extras.

And in that case, there wouldn't be any reason to add another kind of bullet. It wouldn't cost much at all to drop the SKS and 91/30 to keep them with AKMs while those get phased out for 103s

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Bah! *waves hand angrily*

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant AM-17u

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-) AM-17

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD. RPM-17

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

[Benomia]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: AK-12

Main infantry: AK-12

Support roles: RPK-12 and SVK-12

Fixed.

[Peoples Republic of Rome]

lrn 2 post-soviet state

lrn2 no post soviet nation outside Ukraine(because lol90s Ukraine..) had mixed line infantry weapons. Even if you look at the --stans and Georgia, unless they were in the transition phase, in which case they had more of one then the other, it would simply cost less to just pick one and phase out the others over time. Keeping them in storage is a different story.

The M91/30, AKM, and SKS are the extras.

And in that case, there wouldn't be any reason to add another kind of bullet. It wouldn't cost much at all to drop the SKS and 91/30 to keep them with AKMs while those get phased out for 103s

I would only bring out the auxiliary troops if the nation was in direct danger of being defeated, I counted reserves as part of the main infantry. So, yes my reserves have the same weapons as my main infantry, my auxiliaries only have minimal training and militias have even less. I count reserves as main infantry because they are combat ready.

[San-Silvacian]

Standard issue. L85 A2.
Machine gunner support troops. M240B.
Snipers. M98B.
Standard sidearm. Glock G18.

bf3 gtfo

[Peoples Republic of Rome]

Bah! *waves hand angrily*

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: Mosin Nagant AM-17u

Main infantry: AK 74 (preferably without a stock, cuz I'm cool like that ;-) AM-17

Support roles: RPK 74 and the SVD. RPM-17

Maybe I'll change the RPK to the RPD. Convince me.

Where do you think I'm going to get the money for those? I am a poor island country...

[Spreewerke]

Ok,here is my revised equipment setup.

Militia, auxiliary: AK-12

Main infantry: AK-12

Support roles: RPK-12 and SVK-12

Fixed.

I can do nothing but laugh.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Bah! *waves hand angrily*

Where do you think I'm going to get the money for those? I am a poor island country...

$275 per unit.
We also have payment plans, and discounts.
Ammunition is standard 7.62x39mm

[Peoples Republic of Rome]

Where do you think I'm going to get the money for those? I am a poor island country...

$275 per unit.
We also have payment plans, and discounts.
Ammunition is standard 7.62x39mm

I would rather have the scraps I got from the Soviets and use that extra money on infrastructure or something.