Your Nations Warships, MKII

[Padnak]

And now that we're on a past-tech theme, I might as well pull out the 1911 Dreadnought design I was working on before GREs happened.

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Here's the wiki entry and statblock if anyone's interested.

Exceptional as always <3

Any plans for an insanely over armed battleship?

[The Soodean Imperium]

And now that we're on a past-tech theme, I might as well pull out the 1911 Dreadnought design I was working on before GREs happened.

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Here's the wiki entry and statblock if anyone's interested.

Exceptional as always <3

Any plans for an insanely over armed battleship?

Depends on what you mean by "insanely over armed"....

In the periods 1900-1917 and 1923-1937, my nation is constrained by international naval limitation treaties, and even when not I still make sure to run all my stats through SpringSharp. But I do have a deep, suppressed :metricOCD: urge to put 500mm guns on something. What that thing is - treaty-size hull, practical post-'37 warship, oversized paper project that's never built - I've yet to decide.

[Spirit of Hope]

So I posted an older version of this a while ago, and I think I'm going to go with this as my final version.

I give you the Hilmarsson-Class, a ship designed to provide gunfire support during amphibious operations. I went through SpringSharp with it, but I'm not good at this so any criticism is welcome.

[Gallia-]

springsharp wasnt really designed for modern ships, it's intended for interbellum battleships and stuff

it looks ike a ship but gunfire support is dead and a bit dumb in the era of pgms

give it four twin turrets and put the date in the 1970s

[Spirit of Hope]

springsharp wasnt really designed for modern ships, it's intended for interbellum battleships and stuff

I realize that, I don't however know of any system better for giving me some rough estimates on tonnage, power usage, and stability.

it looks ike a ship but gunfire support is dead and a bit dumb in the era of pgms

give it four twin turrets and put the date in the 1970s

I can make it appear a decade earlier, but I figured PGMs aren't the best for attempting to suppress the enemy. That is what your supposed to use artillery for, but the landing force doesn't have any artillery yet.

Plus I figured the US reactivated it's old battleships to use in the Gulf War so making these wouldn't be to crazy.

[The Kievan People]

Also, some common NS ship sins:
1. Too many CIWS.
2. No SAMs.
3. Too many cruise missiles.

[Gallia-]

springsharp wasnt really designed for modern ships, it's intended for interbellum battleships and stuff

I realize that, I don't however know of any system better for giving me some rough estimates on tonnage, power usage, and stability.

it looks ike a ship but gunfire support is dead and a bit dumb in the era of pgms

give it four twin turrets and put the date in the 1970s

I can make it appear a decade earlier, but I figured PGMs aren't the best for attempting to suppress the enemy. That is what your supposed to use artillery for, but the landing force doesn't have any artillery yet.

Plus I figured the US reactivated it's old battleships to use in the Gulf War so making these wouldn't be to crazy.

er the iowas were reactivated because they could bolt on a bazillion tlam boxes not because the guns were cool

if the usn didnt have the usmc attached to it like an evil conscience or a tumour it would have just not bothered with the turrets theyre pretty expensive to operate

[Spirit of Hope]

Also, some common NS ship sins:
1. Too many CIWS.
2. No SAMs.
3. Too many cruise missiles.

1) I'll eliminate some of the CIWS.
2) It has SAM's for missile defense, but it really isn't supposed to engage aircraft. It's just supposed to be floating artillery. But I can try and add some.
3) I'll drop the numbers.

-snip-

Ok, this goes back a decade then. Losses some CIWS and Cruise missiles, gains some more SAM capability.

[Connori Pilgrims]

So I posted an older version of this a while ago, and I think I'm going to go with this as my final version.

I give you the Hilmarsson-Class, a ship designed to provide gunfire support during amphibious operations. I went through SpringSharp with it, but I'm not good at this so any criticism is welcome.

Deployed in the mid-90s... its probably way late for this type of ship, but whatevs its your money.

If this thing was meant to be a gunfire vessel first, should probably just take out the cruise missiles and use the space for long-ranged SAMs (and its associated fire control), or dont add SAMs (and its associated fire control) and save on cost. Sure you lose the flexibility and range but I presume there are other combatants in your navy that can provide this capability anyway... and if this is supposed to be a gunship it'd be best to be a cheap-ish gunship.

[New Vihenia]

Also, some common NS ship sins:
1. Too many CIWS.

There is no "Too many CIWS" :3

[Spirit of Hope]

Also, some common NS ship sins:
1. Too many CIWS.

There is no "Too many CIWS" :3

4 Gun CIWS and 4 missile CIWS was probably a bit much for a ship less than 600 feet long.

[The Kievan People]

Also, some common NS ship sins:
1. Too many CIWS.

There is no "Too many CIWS" :3

Silence heretic!

[Mitheldalond]

How does this sound for a WWII destroyer? I don't have any fancy drawings yet, so I'll just use a Gearing for reference, since OOC it is based off the Gearing-class (IC it has nothing to do with the Gearing).

It has 4 quintuple-torpedo tubes, one behind the aft stack and one in place of the aft 5"/38 turret; the other two are the same as in the picture. The two dual 40mm mounts on either side of the forward smokestack are changed to quad mounts, with another quad mount 40mm on top of the bridge in front of the 5" gun director (which is moved a little bit further aft to make room). There is a dual 40mm mount on each side of the superstructure between torpedo mounts 2 and 3. There are four 20mm Oerlikons on the stern instead of three, another 4 on platforms by the second smokestack, and four on bridge structure as shown in the image. The depth charge throwers along the side are replaced with 12 trainable Hedgehog mortars, 6 on the deck on either side of the superstructure, 4 in front of the twin 40mm mounts and 2 behind. The forward 5"/38s are the same as in the image.

In total, it is armed with 4 5"/38s in twin turrets, 20 torpedo tubes, 16 40mm Bofors, 12 20mm Oerlikons, 12 Hedgehogs, and 2 depth charge rails at the stern.

[Gallia-]

Also, some common NS ship sins:
1. Too many CIWS.

There is no "Too many CIWS" :3

needs underwater ciws for torpedo defence

[North Arkana]

There is no "Too many CIWS" :3

needs underwater ciws for torpedo defence

Considering recent developments, not having a Laser Weapon Systen your modern ships just seems silly. Lasers are probably going to become NS navy standard.

[Gallia-]

maybe for blinding optics or pilots

[Mitheldalond]

needs underwater ciws for torpedo defence

Considering recent developments, not having a Laser Weapon Systen your modern ships just seems silly. Lasers are probably going to become NS navy standard.

I'd rather put the effort and money into improving and developing better and smarter SAMs and AShMs than fool around with lasers and railguns.

[Gallia-]

A railgun is an exceptional general defence weapon for a warship.

A laser is rather more niche.

[North Arkana]

maybe for blinding optics or pilots

You do realize the things are frying missiles in tests currently... right?

[New Oyashima]

maybe for blinding optics or pilots

You do realize the things are frying missiles in tests currently... right?

Rainy day.

Now what?

[Gallia-]

maybe for blinding optics or pilots

You do realize the things are frying missiles in tests currently... right?

They aren't.

They have historically, but those were tank mounted systems not naval ones. Naval lasers have only destroyed drone aircraft (very fragile ones, at that) and small ships from distances of several hundreds of yards, after many seconds of concentrated fire for the latter. They are shorter ranged than current AAA systems like Dardo, and can't reach the horizon at all.

A railgun would be able to engage threats at near horizon distance much faster than a Phalanx gun, increasing response time for a warship under attack.

Perhaps in the distant future tactical lasers will be able to defeat anti-shipping missiles and jet aircraft on a materiel basis, but at the moment they are limited to destroying infrared seekers, blinding pilots, and substituting .50 caliber rifles in the anti-smuggling role.

[Palakistan]

What would, in your opinion, make for a good fleet/flotilla/carrier strike group? I'm going to buy lots of new naval ships. Money is no objection. And is there a storefront here that sells aircraft carriers?

[Gallia-]

What would, in your opinion, make for a good fleet/flotilla/carrier strike group? I'm going to buy lots of new naval ships. Money is no objection. And is there a storefront here that sells aircraft carriers?

1 Nimitz, 2-3 Arleigh Burke, 2-3 Ticonderoga or CGN-42, 3-4 Perry, 688i or 21 class SSN.

[Palakistan]

What would, in your opinion, make for a good fleet/flotilla/carrier strike group? I'm going to buy lots of new naval ships. Money is no objection. And is there a storefront here that sells aircraft carriers?

1 Nimitz, 2-3 Arleigh Burke, 2-3 Ticonderoga or CGN-42, 3-4 Perry, 688i or 21 class SSN.

Ok! Thanks a bunch.

[Mitheldalond]

What would, in your opinion, make for a good fleet/flotilla/carrier strike group? I'm going to buy lots of new naval ships. Money is no objection. And is there a storefront here that sells aircraft carriers?

I have 6 carrier groups that I can sell you for ~$15 billion each, if you're interested. Each group contains:

• 1 x Nimitz-class supercarrier:
  • 48 x F-35C
  • 24 x EA-18G EW aircraft
  • 6 x E-2 Hawkeye AEW aircraft
  • 12 x SH-60B ASW and utility helicopters
• 3 x Arleigh Burke-class DDGs
• 2 x Virginia-class SSNs

The actual value of all that is close to $24 billion going by Wikipedia, but I got them off GE&T awhile ago from someone who had no idea what they were actually worth, which is why they're so cheap.