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Political status of Namor

Postby Namor » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:13 am

As some may know, there are two governments who claim to be the sole legitimate government of Namor and sole legitimate representative of the Namorese people: the People's Republic of Namor and the Republic of Namor, the former controlling 100% of Namorese territory and the latter which is a government-in-exile headquartered in Luziyca. I want to keep track of nations who recognize the PRoN, and those who recognize the RoN.

SINCE both governments declare that there can only be one Namor (that is, one legitimate Namorese government), a nation cannot recognize both regimes as the country's legitimate governments. If your nation recognizes the Republic of Namor, then the People's Republic of Namor will refuse to establish diplomatic ties with your nation and vice versa. Citizens of RoN-recognizing countries will see their passports invalidated once they enter Namorese territory, and Namorese authorities might detain and deport these citizens. Now, since the REPUBLIC of Namor does not own a single inch of Namorese territory, they can't do the same. But they will refuse to establish ties with your nation as well.

If your nation chooses NOT to recognize ANY of the two governments, you're basically considering Namor, a country with a population of 800 million, as terra nulius.


Remember to not only consider ideological closeness, but what the Namorese people think in general.

Below are details of the two governments:

PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF NAMOR
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The People's Republic of Namor is a Liberationist democratic republic that has been controlling Namor since 1950, after revolutionaries overthrew the corrupt Republican dictatorship (which remnants established the RoN-in-exile). It is a centre-left government that has popular support, although its little tolerance for ultra-conservative forces has been noted. Controls 100% of Namorese land mass, and, contrary to common belief, is NOT a communist state.More info on the PRoN HERE


RELOCATED GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF NAMOR
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The Republic of Namor government-in-exile is an ultra-conservative, federal regime which controlled Namor prior to 1950. It is headquartered in Luziyca, and has since tried to retake Namor Proper. The Republic of Namor is fiercely-right wing, and detests Liberationism and any other centrist or leftist ideologies. Controls 0% of Namorese territory and receives no support from the general populace whatsoever. Ther Republic of Namor's leaders believe in an aristocratic government.More info HERE

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[b]Full name of nation:[/b]
[b]Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace?[/b]
[b]If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN?[/b]
[b]If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN?[/b]
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Full name of nation: The University-State of Agymnum
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? The Relocated Government of the Republic of Namor has our condemnation for refusing to accept the People's Republic as Namor's legitimate government, and also for acting against progressive and liberal (i.e. Agymnum) viewpoints. Since the Relocated Government also does not have popular support, it cannot and should not consider itself Namor's legitimate government since government is derived from the people and by the people.
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Postby East Ormania » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:23 am

Full name of nation:The Democratic Republic of East Ormania
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN?It's unlegitimate because it has no popular suport, and therefore we do not recognize it as the true ruler of Namor.
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN?
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Full name of nation: The People's Republic of New Corda
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? The Cordian Government opposes the RoN for the same reason it opposes other Right-Wing regimes; Conservatism stands in opposition to human rights and global progress towards a brighter future for all mankind. It is oppressive by definition. The Right-Wing is regressive by nature, the People's Republic of New Corda is decidedly progressive. Cordian interest and Conservative ideology are irreconcilable.

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Postby Novograd IV » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:16 pm

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Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? Peoples' Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN?
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:27 pm

Full name of nation: Republic of Hippostania
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? Republic of Namor is the sole representative of the Namorian people, while the People's Republic of Namor is the sole government of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? Very positive, and hopefully it'll become the sole ruling entity of Namor in the future. However, until it gains control of any part of Namor, we only give them the title of sole representative of their people.
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? Very negative, they will hopefully be overthrown soon. But as they control entire Namor, we have granted them the title of sole government of Namor.

This unique situation basically means that while we maintain an embassy in PRoN, we maintain a Hippostanian representative who acts as a de-facto ambassador in the RoN. We accept passports and visa applications from both entities, but in affairs regarding the Namorian people themselves we consult RoN instead of PRoN.
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Postby Isle of Kesha » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:35 pm

Full name of nation: The Grand Duchy of the Isle of Kesha
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? Very negative. First of all, we completely disagree with their extreme right-wing ideology. Secondly, we believe that they are very dangerous. Seeing as they hold no land in Namor, we believe that the People's Republic of Namor should treat the exiled government with much caution and be wary of the terrorist group.
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Postby Finaora » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:06 pm

Full name of nation: The Republic of Finaora
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? We believe that the RoN is an illegitimate, corrupted regime that simply wants to put all the progress that the PRoN has made
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN?
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Postby Geadland » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:32 pm

Full name of nation: Kingdom of Geadland
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? The last thing we want is for the Luziycan-backed Republic of Namor to come to power. We already have Luziyca to worry about, we'd rather not have a similar neighbour.
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? n/a
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Postby Astralsideria » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:50 pm

Full name of nation: The Empire of Astralsideria
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? The Republic of Namor is a regime overthrown by its people and forcibly removed from power. Although His Imperial Majesty's Ministry has sympathy with those who have had and lost power, it nevertheless feels it would be irresponsible for the self-proclaimed Government-in-Exile of the Republic of Namor to stage any attempts to attack or invade the People's Republic of Namor, or to persist in claiming jurisdiction over land it does not control. If any such martial incursion were to be staged, His Imperial Majesty's Ministry would be more than willing to give close consideration to intervening, in accordance with international law and at the request or invitation of the People's Republic or Namor, to put an end to it.
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Postby Swilatia » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:52 pm

Full name of nation: Swilatian Republic
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? Overwhelmingly negative, we disagree strongly with their extreme-right ideology, and view them as nothing more than a Luziycan puppet. Aditionally, considering that they control no territory and have virtually no popular support, they have no legitimate claim to be the government of Namor.
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Postby New Matawan » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:56 pm

Full name of nation: The United Socialist Cantons of New Matawan
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Peoples' Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? Popular opinion, dudes. If the citizens want a socialist government, they get one.
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Postby Cruciland » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:58 pm

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Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? N/A.
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? A government with a set of illegal ideologies. They must be overthrown and eradicated, with the worthier government (RoN) once more holding control over Namor.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:59 pm

Full name of nation: Ths German Empire (German: Deutsch Reich)
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor.
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? It is an illegitimate, godless, and disgustingly Leftist regime, that brainwashes its citizens into believing they enjoy their lives.
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Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? N/A
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? An illegitimate, tyrannical band of traitors to their own people, forcing a failed ideology viewed as illegal by Imperial law upon the Namorese people. A prime target for liberation.
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Postby New Belhavia » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:11 pm

Full name of nation: The Empire of New Belhavia
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor.
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? It is an illegal, repressive, backward regime that has created extensive misery for its people under the guise of equality.
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Full name of nation: The Second Republic of New Nassrau
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? N/A
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? The PRoN is not recognized by our nation, however, due to the unique situation imposed here, when dealing with the Namorese people, we will simply call the PRoN, The Representative Entity of the Namorese People
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Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? Republic of Namor
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? The "People's Republic" of Namor is a cruel, remorseless, unstable communist dictatorship which is a stain on the progress of right-wing nations around the world. The Imperial Theocracy does not recognise it as a sovereign nation, nor does it recognise any other communist nations.
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Full name of nation:The Federal Military Republic of Gernonai
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The PRoN
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? It is a backward and mistaken regime that still claims power even though it has no support of the people it claims it has power over.
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Postby Abatael » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:21 pm

Full name of nation: The Imperium Novum of Abatael. (Latin: Imperium Novum Abatis or Imperium Novum Venoliae.)
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? --
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? They are an illegitimate government, and they are falsely claiming authority over that, which they do not control.
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Postby Namor » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:22 pm

Abatael wrote:Full name of nation: The Imperium Novum of Abatael. (Latin: Imperium Novum Abatis or Venoliae.)
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? --
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? They are an illegitimate government, and they are falsely claiming authority over that, which they do not control.


Um...it's the RoN that does not control a single inch of Namorese territory.
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Postby Bulundia » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:33 pm

Full name of nation: Democratic Republic of Bulundia
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? People's Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? Their policies are more in line with ours than the PRN, but as they control no territory and this is unlikely to change in the near future, we cannot recognise them as the government of Namor.
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:36 pm

Full name of nation: Christian Republic of Luziyca
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? N/A
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? We believe the People's Republic of Namor is a communist dictatorship which despite claims of "Liberationism," we see it as a far-fledged communist dictatorship. Since 1911, the Republic of Namor had an embassy in Bethlehem and they still do. We also host them and give them funding.
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Postby Abatael » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:37 pm

Namor wrote:
Abatael wrote:Full name of nation: The Imperium Novum of Abatael. (Latin: Imperium Novum Abatis or Imperium Novum Venoliae.)
Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The Republic of Namor.
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? --
If you chose "RoN," what is your opinion on the PRoN? They are an illegitimate government, and they are falsely claiming authority over that, which they do not control.


Um...it's the RoN that does not control a single inch of Namorese territory.


And it is the PRoN that is illegitimate and has no legitimate authority over it.
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Postby Urmanian » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:41 pm

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Who is the sole legitimate government of the Namorese populace? The PRoN, mainly because we like the abbreviation. Hehe, pron...
If answered "PRoN," what is your opinion on the RoN? A bunch of conservative bible-thumping morons who are even worse than the socialist government of PRoN and whose claims to sovereignty over Namor are laughable.
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