This thread isn't really for that, try the Main Military Weapon thread.
However, as a regular on that thread, I'd say that the bottom is better looking, however fix the curved bit at the end of the rails It looks plain weird...
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by Kouralia » Sun May 27, 2012 9:24 am
by Arkania 5 » Sun May 27, 2012 7:26 pm
Grand Antarctica wrote:16 Emergency Experimental Crisis Suits (Armed with 2 Miniguns on the arms, A jetpack on the back, Specialized Targeting systems, And able to resist 70% of Attacks under the explosive force of C4 and under the power of a 50 Cal shot.)
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by The UK in Exile » Sun May 27, 2012 7:39 pm
Arkania 5 wrote:Is there any kind of acid that can eat through boron carbide?
EDIT:Grand Antarctica wrote:16 Emergency Experimental Crisis Suits (Armed with 2 Miniguns on the arms, A jetpack on the back, Specialized Targeting systems, And able to resist 70% of Attacks under the explosive force of C4 and under the power of a 50 Cal shot.)
What's wrong with this picture?
by Spirit of Hope » Sun May 27, 2012 7:44 pm
Arkania 5 wrote:Is there any kind of acid that can eat through boron carbide?
EDIT:Grand Antarctica wrote:16 Emergency Experimental Crisis Suits (Armed with 2 Miniguns on the arms, A jetpack on the back, Specialized Targeting systems, And able to resist 70% of Attacks under the explosive force of C4 and under the power of a 50 Cal shot.)
What's wrong with this picture?
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by Lubyak » Sun May 27, 2012 7:52 pm
Spirit of Hope wrote:Arkania 5 wrote:Is there any kind of acid that can eat through boron carbide?
EDIT:
What's wrong with this picture?
The fact that two mini guns would weigh to much for a single suit to carry not including the ludicrous amount of ammo they would need and the power system required for both...Oh and hay a jetpack like those are possible!
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by Spirit of Hope » Sun May 27, 2012 7:55 pm
Lubyak wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:
The fact that two mini guns would weigh to much for a single suit to carry not including the ludicrous amount of ammo they would need and the power system required for both...Oh and hay a jetpack like those are possible!
Somehow I think he wanted a MT version of this.
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by El Gran Tropico » Sun May 27, 2012 9:14 pm
by The UK in Exile » Sun May 27, 2012 9:27 pm
El Gran Tropico wrote:How useful would a single small V/STOL carrier like the Principe de Asturias or its derrivative the HTMS Chakri Naruebet be in fleet-to-fleet combat? Would a V/STOL carrier be useful for a small navy otherwise consisting of multirole corvettes and destroyers, in terns of repelling hostile fleets? Or would a single ship like that necessarily be relegated to disaster relief efforts and service as a 'governmental yacht' like the Chakri Naruebet has been IRL?
by Ularn » Sun May 27, 2012 11:03 pm
by Spirit of Hope » Sun May 27, 2012 11:24 pm
Ularn wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:
Which wouldn't work for various reasons, plus a walker? Those have almost no place on any battle field, and twin gatling guns is a stupid armament.
I could see the application of small walkers in a fast-attack role with jetpacks or something akin to the Tau Battlesuit or Heinlien's Mobile Infantry. If possible, such units would be good for hit and run style attacks, but using walkers as something like a tank is retarded.
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by The Kievan People » Sun May 27, 2012 11:50 pm
Ularn wrote:I could see the application of small walkers in a fast-attack role with jetpacks or something akin to the Tau Battlesuit or Heinlien's Mobile Infantry. If possible, such units would be good for hit and run style attacks, but using walkers as something like a tank is retarded.
by The Akasha Colony » Mon May 28, 2012 1:05 am
The Kievan People wrote:Ularn wrote:I could see the application of small walkers in a fast-attack role with jetpacks or something akin to the Tau Battlesuit or Heinlien's Mobile Infantry. If possible, such units would be good for hit and run style attacks, but using walkers as something like a tank is retarded.
Humvees and Motorcycles can no longer shoot-move-shoot because...?
Bipedal walking machines larger than a personnel exoskeleton are a solution in search of a problem.
by Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Mon May 28, 2012 4:16 am
The Kievan People wrote:Ularn wrote:I could see the application of small walkers in a fast-attack role with jetpacks or something akin to the Tau Battlesuit or Heinlien's Mobile Infantry. If possible, such units would be good for hit and run style attacks, but using walkers as something like a tank is retarded.
Humvees and Motorcycles can no longer shoot-move-shoot because...?
Bipedal walking machines larger than a personnel exoskeleton are a solution in search of a problem.
by Vault 1 » Mon May 28, 2012 4:35 am
by Arkania 5 » Mon May 28, 2012 7:38 am
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by Vitaphone Racing » Mon May 28, 2012 8:25 am
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by Spirit of Hope » Mon May 28, 2012 8:38 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Considering the meagre amounts of lift provided by jetpacks, the short range they have, the amount of weight carried by a soldier and the complete lack of cover when sailing through the air, I really don't think jetpack infantry will ever have a place.
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by Vitaphone Racing » Mon May 28, 2012 8:42 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Vitaphone Racing wrote:Considering the meagre amounts of lift provided by jetpacks, the short range they have, the amount of weight carried by a soldier and the complete lack of cover when sailing through the air, I really don't think jetpack infantry will ever have a place.
I could see jet packs passed out as specialty equipment to specialty troops for specific operations. Put never widespread deployment and even that would require vast improvements in "jetpack" technology before I would think its viable for deployment.
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by The Kievan People » Mon May 28, 2012 10:08 am
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by Jagalonia » Mon May 28, 2012 11:59 am
The Akasha Colony wrote:The Kievan People wrote:
Humvees and Motorcycles can no longer shoot-move-shoot because...?
Bipedal walking machines larger than a personnel exoskeleton are a solution in search of a problem.
Agreed. Exoskeletons are useful because they protect individual men in a package that would prevent the installation of a cockpit or controls. But scale it up larger and you have to justify adding limbs (and thus mechanical complexity and vulnerability) when more reliable modes of transportation already exist. If a mech's limb isn't there to protect the actual limb of the user beneath it, it's excess mechanical complexity for little gain vs. a standard gun turret.
Especially if you're adding jetpacks. If you're jetpacking over rough terrain, you don't need legs at all, which is usually the advantage mech proponents tout vs. normal treads/wheels. Adding a jetpack means the mech is now the perfect storm of bad design, since the limbs are rendered redundant by the jetpack, and all of those systems add additional weight, complexity, and vulnerability. There are a tiny handful of potential places a mech may be more useful than a wheeled vehicle, but those unlikely situations aren't enough to justify their development and use, especially if those walkers get pushed into general operations, where their special-purpose gear is actually a liability, rather than an asset.
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by Grand Britannia » Mon May 28, 2012 12:05 pm
Jagalonia wrote:The Akasha Colony wrote:
Agreed. Exoskeletons are useful because they protect individual men in a package that would prevent the installation of a cockpit or controls. But scale it up larger and you have to justify adding limbs (and thus mechanical complexity and vulnerability) when more reliable modes of transportation already exist. If a mech's limb isn't there to protect the actual limb of the user beneath it, it's excess mechanical complexity for little gain vs. a standard gun turret.
Especially if you're adding jetpacks. If you're jetpacking over rough terrain, you don't need legs at all, which is usually the advantage mech proponents tout vs. normal treads/wheels. Adding a jetpack means the mech is now the perfect storm of bad design, since the limbs are rendered redundant by the jetpack, and all of those systems add additional weight, complexity, and vulnerability. There are a tiny handful of potential places a mech may be more useful than a wheeled vehicle, but those unlikely situations aren't enough to justify their development and use, especially if those walkers get pushed into general operations, where their special-purpose gear is actually a liability, rather than an asset.
The only reason I could see justifying a mech, is if you need a moving tower for long-range attacks, or spotting...
by Spirit of Hope » Mon May 28, 2012 12:12 pm
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:
I could see jet packs passed out as specialty equipment to specialty troops for specific operations. Put never widespread deployment and even that would require vast improvements in "jetpack" technology before I would think its viable for deployment.
I can't. Jetpacks aren't small or light and you need to carry around fuel so they aren't a piece of equipment able to be taken on patrol. Jetpacks aren't rugged, dependable gear either so they aren't the kind of equipment you'd take anywhere in the field. They aren't quiet so they are no good for sneak attacks. They aren't invisible to infra-red, nor visual light. They aren't cheap. They aren't easy to maintain and frankly, they don't offer nearly enough benefit for their long, long list of drawbacks. Short of an anti-gravity system, personal lift isn't going to be something seen on the battlefield.
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by Vault 1 » Mon May 28, 2012 12:17 pm
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