Ponistan wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:The late 20th and 21st centuries have been extremely peaceful with no major wars since WW2, the 19th century had Napoleon, the US civil war, the Taiping Rebellion, the Crimean war, the Opium wars, not to mention cold wars like the Great Game were Britain and Russia vied for influence in the Afghanistan-Iran region. Hell even their guerrilla wars were worse than the wars we bitch and moan about, the second Boer war cost about 44,000 British soldiers, 300,000 horses, 27,000 civilians, and 9,000 Boer militants.
Iraq War - Upwards of a million casualties.
Somali Civil War - Hundreds of thousands of casualties.
The various wars in Afghanistan that have constantly engulfed the country for decades - Over a million casualties.
Mexican Drug War - About 40,000 casualties.
The Korean War (which still hasn't ended) - A few million casualties.
Conflicts in the Kashmir regions of India and Pakisan - About 100,000 casualties
Israel/Palestine conflicts - Roughly 15,000 casualties.
Kurd uprisings in Turkey and Iraq - Upwards of 100,000 casualties.
Myanmar internal conflicts - Over 100,000 casualties.
Colombian wars against the cartels and revolutionaries - A couple hundred thousand casualties.
Libyan Civil War - About 20,000 casualties.
THESE are just wars that are
happening right now at this very moment, and it's not even a complete list.
Many of these conflicts include almost all civilians, and even then, several of your points are practically grabbing at straws "The Korean War
(which still hasn't ended)" if by still hasn't ended you mean one or more parties haven't signed a treaty, using that logic the third Punic lasted over 2,000 years and several other wars have lasted for hundreds of years longer than they should have. Also the Mexican Drug War, the Drug Cartel Conflicts in Columbia, and the constant conflicts in Afghanistan are not wars. In the former two cases it is just like the government fighting crime, using that logic the US has been at war with various murderers since its beginning which has cost the lives of hundreds if thousands, and tons of countries were at constant war in the 19th century, random tribes killing each other doesn't constitute a war.
Napoleonic Wars: 3,350,000-6,500,000
Crimean War: Approximately 500,000
Taiping Rebellion: About 20 million
Boxer Rebellion: About 40,000
Franco-Prussian War: Almost 1 million
Nien Rebellion: About 100,000
Austro-Prussian War: About 100,000
American Civil War: About 600,000
First Second and Third Anglo-Afghan Wars: At least 24,000 (first Anglo-Afghan war was the bloodiest with 12,000 British losses and Afghan losses are unknown)
Spanish-American War: 29,000
Mexican-American War: Just under 30,000
Mahdist War: About 90,000
My point is that the difference between real life countries and NS countries is that RL countries got soft, and NS countries can't afford to get soft.
You've got it wrong. The real world didn't get soft. It can't afford a big war. Do you realize that even without nuclear weapons, even tactical nukes, or any WMD of any sort, if the great powers of the world got into a true, total war, then World War II would look like a field trip to Candyland? I'm talking about hundreds of millions of people being trained to kill with semi-automatic rifles before the conflict even really gets fully rolling, and that's just for starters. The
entire world would be devastated, and again, this is sans the WMDs.
Source? Military casualties in wars have remained relatively consistent since the 18th century with the exception of large scale conflicts. Semi-auto weapons didn't change much in the way of losses since artillery and disease have always been the biggest killers in warfare.
NS is 20th century warfare using 21st century technology caused by 19th century problems.
That... doesn't make sense.
Yes it does. Everyone in NS uses 20th century strategy particularly WW2 tactics, strategy, and doctrine, they use stealth fighters, ETC guns, air craft carriers, caseless assault rifles and other 21st century technology, and NS politics are a lot like 19th century politics in that everyone is actually pretty equal militarily.
Tehraan wrote:Your point being? This is NS not the real world. Most nations can affort having a military on the level RL USA or above. I don't see how I should somehow tune it down because I don't compare to nations like Allanea in terms of military. Doesn't mean must have a military less powerful in equipment and spending compaired to the RL USA's miltary. I think the reasons behind this and such are already explained well enough by othera such as The Anglo-Saxon Empire
You are completely, 100% correct. You can do whatever the hell you want with your country and it's no skin off my nose.
The issue at hand is that this is the realism thread. You CAN do all of this and have h00j militaries with epically huge battles and superpowers going to war with each other at the drop of a hat, but what you can't do is say that it's realistic.
Except you can because NS is a massive scale. Really nations on NS are massive as in 3x China's population and 2x the US GDP per capita being average. Even if they only spent a fraction of their GDP on the military they can have militaries with tens of millions of soldiers and equipment better than the US. Also, unlike the US all NS nations have competition, the US has no reason to have a bigger military, neither does Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, Spain, Belgium, China, or any other major country.
If you want to look at RL countries that are forced to live like NS countries look at Israel and South Korea. Both countries have disproportionately large militaries because they both are under constant threat of war. South Korea has its retarded angry neighbor to the north and Israel has Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq threatening them or having fought them in the past. Britain doesn't have to deal with a North Britain that has almost 5% of its people ready to pour over its borders. France isn't going to be invaded by Spain, Germany, Italy, and Britain unless something drastic happens.