NS Military Realism Consultation Thread

[DASHES]

ATTENTION!

I'd like you all to read the OP once more.

Then, I'd like you to remember what this thread was all about, and then agree-to-agree to do what you can to help RP'ers make thier designs and military forces more realistic.

So matter what you think about War, World War II, NS World War II, or NS Wars fought like WWII, lets pacify that irrelevant discussion and focus on helping the new-but-unsure players.
If you guys wanna have your little NS-historian RP'er square-dance-brawl, I'm positive that you can take it to the TG's, or even another forum.

That was it. Sorry about rudeness and I'm really not trying to insult anybody, but I had to stem this tide before it turned into a flood of irrelevant posts.
Thank you for supporting this thread and understanding.

[-St George]

How is it that an II Mentor and a puppet of a nation that apparently knows more about rping than me can miss the point so badly?

My point was, if you dislike the way things are done so much, change them. RP with people and insist on the standards you set yourself.

Or is it easier to just sit back and bitch?

Yes it is. The amount of people who RP for fun and enjoyment and not for winning is growing smaller every day. Anybody who wants to RP with people who insist on good standards has joined SMS or an offsite regional forum.

You're mistaking good standards for the realism stasi that exists on SMS.

And you're wrong, btw.

[DASHES]

Everybody, see my post above.

Srsly.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Yes it is. The amount of people who RP for fun and enjoyment and not for winning is growing smaller every day. Anybody who wants to RP with people who insist on good standards has joined SMS or an offsite regional forum.

You're mistaking good standards for the realism stasi that exists on SMS.

And you're wrong, btw.

I wouldn't expect you to know anything about SMS as I have never seen you on the forums there.

Not to mention the numerous other regional forums who still use NS sized budgets and militaries.

I'm not wrong at all. People have left NS and will continue to do so.

[DASHES]

You're mistaking good standards for the realism stasi that exists on SMS.

And you're wrong, btw.

I wouldn't expect you to know anything about SMS as I have never seen you on the forums there.

Not to mention the numerous other regional forums who still use NS sized budgets and militaries.

I'm not wrong at all. People have left NS and will continue to do so.

Right, and I'm going to have to ask you two to cease this pointless and counter-productive discussion.

How about I'll post an idea soon, and we on-topic.
My idea'll involve modernizing the old British Mark V tank(From WW1) for APC purposes. It'll be a cross between an IFV and a Heavy Tank.

[Anemos Major]

How about I'll post an idea soon, and we on-topic.
My idea'll involve modernizing the old British Mark V tank(From WW1) for APC purposes. It'll be a cross between an IFV and a Heavy Tank.

That's too vague to be critiqued, to be honest. Even then, the highly exposed nature of the Mark V's running track means that any joker with a 20mm cannon or anti tank rifle grenade can immobilise your tank in one shot. On top of that, the Mark V has a relatively high profile already; there's a limit to the size of the guns you put in a sponson, so the only options you have are to hull mount it, which makes it impossible to traverse in any significant manner, or to stick a turret on top of the tank, which is essentially like driving a skyscraper painted with 'hit me' signs through a battlefield.

In short? Probably quite a bad idea in practical terms, even if you modernise the technical failure prone Mark V to modern standards. It's a fun idea, mind, and probably possible, but that's not what this thread is about, unfortunately.

(also New Nicks has already done something similar)

[Senestrum]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

[Tehraan]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

fast attack craft? you jokin?

[Anemos Major]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

need moar gunz

not attack enough

[Tehraan]

That bomber on a launching rail.

[Tehraan]

One thing that I have been looking for however.

What's the limit of an aircraft carrier's launch capacity and capabilities to handling a number aircraft in the air when in a combat situation.

[DASHES]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

A. No offense, but ur spellin & grammar could uz sum work

B. Thats not a fast attack craft, thats a combinatination of a Heavy Battlecruiser and a Battleship, with twice the size and maybe half the speed of a Seawise Giant. Thats not fit for military service. That thing will be so slow and such a big target that you would be better scrapping it for metal and ammo so you can build Tanks instead.

C. Or, if your nation is a bit short on housing, take the guns off and turn it into an over-sized naval public-housing space. Or a prison super-complex. Or a resort/tourist attraction to bring in revenue. Or absolutely anything other than a warship.

Nice design, by the way. Its just too freaking big.

[Immoren]

*snip rant by DASHES

Me thinks Sene is being cheeky.

Also I was wondering. My light infantry squad are 1+3x3. (Squad leader plus three three men fireteams)
Fireteam has team leader, automatic rifleman and anti-tank guy with LAWs and/or AT-4s.
And finally my question. Should team leader be:
A) "Mere" rifleman. have standard rifle and combat sight/non-enhancing scope and no other special equipment
B)Team leader doubles as designated marksman. Carries designated marksman's rifle with scope with enhacing zoom.
C)Team leader doubles as grenadier. Carries standard rifle with grenade lancher.

[DASHES]

One thing that I have been looking for however.

What's the limit of an aircraft carrier's launch capacity and capabilities to handling a number aircraft in the air when in a combat situation.

Well, I know that the USS Enterprise can hold up to 90 Fighters, or 70 in normal circumstances.

However, the Big-E is the largest AC in the world, but from the capacity stats of a wide variety of AC's I've seen, the typical AC should have 22-50 Fighter-sized aircraft, or something like 20 Fighters and several Bombers.

That's simply my estimate and recommendation.

[DASHES]

*snip rant by DASHES

Me thinks Sene is being cheeky.

Also I was wondering. My light infantry squad are 1+3x3. (Squad leader plus three three men fireteams)
Fireteam has team leader, automatic rifleman and anti-tank guy with LAWs and/or AT-4s.
And finally my question. Should team leader be:
A) "Mere" rifleman. have standard rifle and combat sight/non-enhancing scope and no other special equipment
B)Team leader doubles as designated marksman. Carries designated marksman's rifle with scope with enhacing zoom.
C)Team leader doubles as grenadier. Carries standard rifle with grenade lancher.

In that case, Senestrum's cheeky is the average man's colossal.

If you would like my opinion, You should have your team leader double as the Designated Marksman. It seems to me that your Fireteams are sorely lacking any dependable form of long-range ballistic weaponry.
The Rifleman role can performed by your Automatic Riflemen, and the Grenadier role can be performed by your AT soldiers. Just be sure to give everybody extra ammo.

[Immoren]

Fireteams are sorely lacking any dependable form of long-range ballistic weaponry.

I seem to crash into language barrier with this part.

[Senestrum]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

fast attack craft? you jokin?

it haz 15 million horsepowers and can go at 50 knots

[Daenya]

fast attack craft? you jokin?

it haz 15 million horsepowers and can go at 50 knots

If you look closely, there is a stickman in a red cape holding a sword on the barrel of the first gun facing right.

[Galla-]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

need moar gunz

not attack enough

p sure those guns can fire nuclear shells into suborbital trajectories

dwi

[Bajireyn]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

Are any of these ships for sale?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

need moar gunz

not attack enough

p sure those guns can fire nuclear shells into suborbital trajectories

dwi

Doesn't mean you can't add more guns. You must have 7 turrets each with four guns for a total of 28 main guns.

[Galla-]

p sure those guns can fire nuclear shells into suborbital trajectories

dwi

Doesn't mean you can't add more guns. You must have 7 turrets each with four guns for a total of 28 main guns.

that is a ridiculous idea

be ashamed you thought of it

esp considering it has VLS F-23s and rail mount SLAMs

[Milograd]

hay guise this is my fast attack craft how i make it bettar

srsly the best FAC

YF-23 launchers o/o/o/o/

it haz 15 million horsepowers and can go at 50 knots

I would expect nothing less from a FAC.

A. No offense, but ur spellin & grammar could uz sum work

B. Thats not a fast attack craft, thats a combinatination of a Heavy Battlecruiser and a Battleship, with twice the size and maybe half the speed of a Seawise Giant. Thats not fit for military service. That thing will be so slow and such a big target that you would be better scrapping it for metal and ammo so you can build Tanks instead.

C. Or, if your nation is a bit short on housing, take the guns off and turn it into an over-sized naval public-housing space. Or a prison super-complex. Or a resort/tourist attraction to bring in revenue. Or absolutely anything other than a warship.

Nice design, by the way. Its just too freaking big.

lol

[Imperial DaiHan]

If a man were to fire a rifle from the standing position...



Which was chambered in 20mm Hispano... Would he remain standing?

[Crookfur]

*snip rant by DASHES

Me thinks Sene is being cheeky.

Also I was wondering. My light infantry squad are 1+3x3. (Squad leader plus three three men fireteams)
Fireteam has team leader, automatic rifleman and anti-tank guy with LAWs and/or AT-4s.
And finally my question. Should team leader be:
A) "Mere" rifleman. have standard rifle and combat sight/non-enhancing scope and no other special equipment
B)Team leader doubles as designated marksman. Carries designated marksman's rifle with scope with enhacing zoom.
C)Team leader doubles as grenadier. Carries standard rifle with grenade lancher.

Personally I'm not entirely sold on the 1+3x3 thing but if you like it it shoudl work. the team leader should from your optiosn likely get get option C, not so much to allow him to act as the grenadier but to allow him to deploy smoke, illumination and markers as required. For Designated MArksmen just issue one or two weaposn to the unit pool and give the DM weapon(s) to whom ever in the squad (apart from the team leader) is best qualified to use it. It will likely mean that at least one fo the fireteams will miss one of thier specialists but ti does allow a bit more versatility. I would probably also issue a couple of UGLs on a pool basis aswell. Of course if you are beign uber awesome every one should get a 4x scope for their indivdiual weapon possibly a dual sighting one (i.e. ACOG with the holo sight on the top) or a switchable/variable zoom model(i.e. Spectre DR).