Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Tranche 7

[Orussia]

From that discussion, I think it's going to be a 75 + DART combination, yep. DART isn't a range solution, but it's a necessary balance for the reduction in RoF/weight of fire and ammunition capacity that's an inevitable result of moving from 30-40 to ~75mm.

Anemos, bro.
You're forgetting an entire caliber range.

57mm AA ftw

[Anemos Major]

Anemos, bro.
You're forgetting an entire caliber range.
(Image)
57mm AA ftw

I've not forgotten, Orussia!

But I'm not going to go for a dual 57 array, and if I'm going with a large gun firing heavy guided shells at a comparatively low RoF, the best way to maximise Pk (and arguably cost efficiency) would be to increase the per-shell effectiveness. On the other hand, the ammunition capacity's much higher... P:< (I am thinking over all sorts of options!)

[Immoren]

So are close self-defense aamgs on top of cabins of cargo lorries worth the "effort" or would they still serve in general self-defense role?

[Connori Pilgrims]

So are close self-defense aamgs on top of cabins of cargo lorries worth the "effort" or would they still serve in general self-defense role?

Useful for self defence, particularly for convoys crossing bad-lands/potential ambush zones where they'd be handy to have.

[Anemos Major]

So are close self-defense aamgs on top of cabins of cargo lorries worth the "effort" or would they still serve in general self-defense role?

I mean, they're not going to devastate the enemy's hordes of battle tanks and attack helicopters, but it's a cheap way of giving vulnerable vehicles some means by which to fire back against things in the air and troops behind your lines or whatnot. So long as you have the ammunition and weapons to spare, but if you can afford tanks I'm sure you can afford a handful more HMGs.

For bonus points, swivel-mount ATGMs and SHORADS on your cargo trucks for a logistics corps that means nothing but business.

[San-Silvacian]

If you mount M2HBs on your trucks in mass on RWS, it may look dumb at first, but if you get into any kind of conflict that has the enemy highly interested in asymmetrical warfare it will help out. It also helps to have cabins armored against 5.56-7.62x51mm ammo.

In such a case, if your enemy was to ambush a group of like 5 trucks, yes RPGs would still kill them, however they could quickly speed out of the area or fall back to a more secure position with little worry about most GPMGs and small arms fire while the crew inside the vehicle can provide some kind of suppressing fire to cover their advance or retreat from the area.

[Kouralia]

...if you get into any kind of conflict that has the enemy highly interested in asymmetrical warfare...

Meanwhile in the uneducated masses of II...

"Veet Gong Gorilla warfare best and beat US errehday. All my troops are trained in gorrila combat and ambush you lololololololol"

[The Akasha Colony]

...if you get into any kind of conflict that has the enemy highly interested in asymmetrical warfare...

Meanwhile in the uneducated masses of II...

"Veet Gong Gorilla warfare best and beat US errehday. All my troops are trained in gorrila combat and ambush you lololololololol"

Most of II is basically just the Navy SEAL copypasta, but with worse spelling and less creative threats.

[San-Silvacian]

...if you get into any kind of conflict that has the enemy highly interested in asymmetrical warfare...

Meanwhile in the uneducated masses of II...

"Veet Gong Gorilla warfare best and beat US errehday. All my troops are trained in gorrila combat and ambush you lololololololol"

If your trucks can survive the first attacks which may include RPG fire, timed, sensor, or manually detonated mines/EFPs, etc and your trucks follow the guidelines I specified you will have a higher chance of repelling the ambush.

Meanwhile in the uneducated masses of II...

"Veet Gong Gorilla warfare best and beat US errehday. All my troops are trained in gorrila combat and ambush you lololololololol"

Most of II is basically just the Navy SEAL copypasta, but with worse spelling and less creative threats.

i nuke u w/ 100000000000 SS-18s post losses

[Kouralia]

Meanwhile in the uneducated masses of II...

"Veet Gong Gorilla warfare best and beat US errehday. All my troops are trained in gorrila combat and ambush you lololololololol"

If your trucks can survive the first attacks which may include RPG fire, timed, sensor, or manually detonated mines/EFPs, etc and your trucks follow the guidelines I specified you will have a higher chance of repelling the ambush.

This is a point - I need to spend some more time considering the layout of my logistics squadrons etc.

Most of II is basically just the Navy SEAL copypasta, but with worse spelling and less creative threats.

i nuke u w/ 100000000000 SS-18s post losses

"hi im an edgy american who is starting to create ill-informed views on the world, based on 'seeing a news report about how one civilian got killed by a us strike' and 'not understanding how warfare works' so i now think the us is the font of all evil in the world and all soviet things are superior in every way, like so t34>m1 abraham. the power of putin stops the n00ks because obvious soviet superiority in all forms and can into better than smelly amerifat."

[United Marxist Nations]

If your trucks can survive the first attacks which may include RPG fire, timed, sensor, or manually detonated mines/EFPs, etc and your trucks follow the guidelines I specified you will have a higher chance of repelling the ambush.

This is a point - I need to spend some more time considering the layout of my logistics squadrons etc.

i nuke u w/ 100000000000 SS-18s post losses

"hi im an edgy american who is starting to create ill-informed views on the world, based on 'seeing a news report about how one civilian got killed by a us strike' and 'not understanding how warfare works' so i now think the us is the font of all evil in the world and all soviet things are superior in every way, like so t34>m1 abraham. the power of putin stops the n00ks because obvious soviet superiority in all forms and can into better than smelly amerifat."

"We are all of knowings that T-26 is best tanks of all time, why else would Spain has kept using them!? "

[Purpelia]

"We are all of knowings that T-26 is best tanks of all time, why else would Spain has kept using them!? "

Nonsense. The best tank ever is the ARL-44.

[Yukonastan]

"i n00k joo all with 3.14x10^1337 n00ks post losses"

In all seriousness, that's why I'm thinking of creating a 500mm artillery IGNORED cannon based off of an IFV chassis.

[Anemos Major]

(don't get too wildly off topic, guys)

Nonsense. The best tank ever is the ARL-44.

you can't joke around about things like this

[Immoren]

Battlegroup/brigade has their "frontline" bits moving on articulated transporters.
Ought then also "rearer" susport elements and supply elements move on articulated transporters so they'd have same mobility, or would road mobility for those elements be enough?

:-P

[Yukonastan]

Battlegroup/brigade has their "frontline" bits moving on articulated transporters.
Ought then also "rearer" susport elements and supply elements move on articulated transporters so they'd have same mobility, or would road mobility for those elements be enough?

:-P

You want to move 2.5 ton trucks on flat beds?

[Immoren]

Battlegroup/brigade has their "frontline" bits moving on articulated transporters.
Ought then also "rearer" susport elements and supply elements move on articulated transporters so they'd have same mobility, or would road mobility for those elements be enough?

:-P

You want to move 2.5 ton trucks on flat beds?

What?

[Yukonastan]

You want to move 2.5 ton trucks on flat beds?

What?

I'm just asking. It honestly depends on the vehicle you're moving whether it'd be best to truck it up or leave it on the road.

[Immoren]

What?

I'm just asking. It honestly depends on the vehicle you're moving whether it'd be best to truck it up or leave it on the road.

I am not asking to truck vehicles up.
I am asking whether artillery, logistics and other elements that don't need to follow in immediate vicinity of infantry into combat, ought to have those same vehicles, or whether it's enough that they race on the roads with wheels as near as posible to infantry's advance.
I guess I am that bad at formatting.

[Novorden]

Oculus rifts and XBOX controllers for my tank commanders

[San-Silvacian]

I'm just asking. It honestly depends on the vehicle you're moving whether it'd be best to truck it up or leave it on the road.

I am not asking to truck vehicles up.
I am asking whether artillery, logistics and other elements that don't need to follow in immediate vicinity of infantry into combat, ought to have those same vehicles, or whether it's enough that they race on the roads with wheels as near as posible to infantry's advance.
I guess I am that bad at formatting.

Its fine if they use them.

[Yukonastan]

Oculus rifts and XBOX controllers for my tank commanders

For maximum :situational awareness: you mean?

[Ardavia]

*puts conscripted FPS players in charge of crewing unmanned turrets with Xbox controllers*

[Yukonastan]

*puts conscripted FPS players in charge of crewing unmanned turrets with Xbox controllers*

US's future soldier project had something like that. Wired Xbox controllers and video goggles to control a land drone.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

So are close self-defense aamgs on top of cabins of cargo lorries worth the "effort" or would they still serve in general self-defense role?

1. They are loud, and kinda hard to tell whether it's a fancy gun-mount or not.
2. They make muzzle-flashes that can hide bigger and better weapon-systems, like an M2 Bradley's 25mm.
3. They are generally pretty accurate
4. That garbage-can looks suspicious? Put a few rounds in it; if it explodes, then mission accomplished.