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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:45 am
by Dendart
Resolved: The name of the nation of the NSG Senate shall be Calaverde. Aye
Resolved: The mainland shall have a total surface area of 400 square hectometres, or less. NAY
Resolved: The currency with symbol '$' in three proposals relating to GDP and GDP per capita shall refer to Cayman Islands dollar($), which has exchange rate of 1$ = 1.22 US$. Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:52 am
by Argentarino
Aye, Nay, Abstain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:53 am
by MERIZoC
Aye, Nay, Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:56 am
by Zunkwentania
Aye, Nay, Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:17 pm
by Kincoboh
Abstain, Nay, Abstain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:19 pm
by Arkolon
Great Nepal wrote:
Arkolon wrote:I didn't say we were. I said we weren't first world. I made no other claims. We're also in Central America, so we won't have the same political consensus as we can find in Western Europe or the US.

The problem is how do we defend our extravagant wealth.

Who are you defending it against? We agreed for purposes of RP that we have modest GDP per capita, thats all the defence a modest GDP per capita needs.

GDP per capita isn't "just there". It's not a tangible, physical thing. It's not a lone, isolated variable that just decides "how rich we are" overall. GDP is the sum of all consumption by the whole economy; all the money spent. It is but a representation of the economy, and takes in family budgets, government expenditures, business expenses, investment from the same parties, as well as international trade. We are trying, for thw purposes of the RP, to be like our neighbours, and when the money in those countries is about half of that of ours, it means there is something fundamentally different about the way people spend money in Calaverde, about how much money people have in Calaverde, how people get their money in Calaverde, or how money is treated in Calaverde. We cannot say that we can be like our neighbours but there is a "single difference" that our GDP is higher. GDP isn't just a "one thing". It is a multitude of factors representing how much money is used, so, in effect, a richer per capita economy would mean that Calaverde is fundamentally different, based on completely different principles, operating at a completely different level as our poorer neighbours.

At this stage, I would much rather buy the notion that we were a Kenyan exclave until 1997, or that our sky is actually yellow as opposed to blue, than pretend that Calaverde can be extremely similar to its neighbours when its GDP per capita is far greater than its neighbours. We have to justify this perk.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:20 pm
by Arkolon
Aye to none but the first one.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:23 pm
by Maklohi Vai
Arkolon wrote:Aye to none but the first one.

And what are your votes on the others?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:25 pm
by Arkolon
Maklohi Vai wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Aye to none but the first one.

And what are your votes on the others?

I will donate them to charity; in the instance that an Aye motion seems to be carried, offer my vote to Nay, and vice versa.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:27 pm
by Maklohi Vai
Arkolon wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:And what are your votes on the others?

I will donate them to charity; in the instance that an Aye motion seems to be carried, offer my vote to Nay, and vice versa.

Doesn't work like that. State it plainly, please.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:30 pm
by Arkolon
Maklohi Vai wrote:
Arkolon wrote:I will donate them to charity; in the instance that an Aye motion seems to be carried, offer my vote to Nay, and vice versa.

Doesn't work like that. State it plainly, please.

I am looking for the smartest novel answer I can. I am considering something extravagant, but I will prefer to go for "What does the horse say?"

Neigh, Neigh

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:30 pm
by Zunkwentania
Arkolon wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:And what are your votes on the others?

I will donate them to charity; in the instance that an Aye motion seems to be carried, offer my vote to Nay, and vice versa.

Abstaining would do essentially the same thing.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:37 pm
by United Provinces of Atlantica
Aye, Nay, Aye.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:00 pm
by The New World Oceania
Zunkwentania wrote:
Arkolon wrote:I will donate them to charity; in the instance that an Aye motion seems to be carried, offer my vote to Nay, and vice versa.

Abstaining would do essentially the same thing.


No, as they won't count abstentions in the final vote. And, for that, I maintain my refusal to vote.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:06 pm
by Geilinor
Aye, Nay, Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:15 pm
by Lykens
Aye, Nay, Abstain.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:17 pm
by Soviet Canuckistan
Aye, Nay, Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:18 pm
by The State of Deseret
Maklohi Vai wrote:Y'all forgot to vote again.

Resolved: The name of the nation of the NSG Senate shall be Calaverde.
Resolved: The mainland shall have a total surface area of 400 square hectometres, or less.
Resolved: The currency with symbol '$' in three proposals relating to GDP and GDP per capita shall refer to Cayman Islands dollar($), which has exchange rate of 1$ = 1.22 US$.


24 hours of voting from the time of this post.

AYE
AYE
AYE

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:38 pm
by Beta Test
Aye, Abstain, Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:41 pm
by St Marcila
Aye
Nay
Nay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:44 pm
by Murkwood
"Resolved: The name of the nation of the NSG Senate shall be Calaverde." AYE
"Resolved: The mainland shall have a total surface area of 400 square hectometres, or less." NAY
"Resolved: The currency with symbol '$' in three proposals relating to GDP and GDP per capita shall refer to Cayman Islands dollar($), which has exchange rate of 1$ = 1.22 US$." AYE

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:01 pm
by Dejanic
Aye. Abstain. Abstain.

I don't see what's particularly wrong with the latter two bills, but clearly I'm missing something since the vast majority here are voting against them, so I'll abstain for the time being.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:06 pm
by Lykens
Dejanic wrote:Aye. Abstain. Abstain.

I don't see what's particularly wrong with the latter two bills, but clearly I'm missing something since the vast majority here are voting against them, so I'll abstain for the time being.

Would you like our mainland to be only 400 square hectometers?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:06 pm
by MERIZoC
Dejanic wrote:Aye. Abstain. Abstain.

I don't see what's particularly wrong with the latter two bills, but clearly I'm missing something since the vast majority here are voting against them, so I'll abstain for the time being.

With regards to the second one, it would make our mainland absolutely tiny, which is basically all Anin wants.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:06 pm
by The Neo-Confederate States of America
Aye, Abstain, Nay