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Soldati senza confini wrote:

Napkiraly wrote:So the new Star Wars trailer has been leaked.

A return of Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill is certainly interesting.

I wonder how good this film is going to be under Disney. Although since George Lucas is going to be involved I bet it is not going to disappoint.

George Lucas' contributions are good when he is controlled. When he is contained and told "No, this is fucking stupid and you should feel bad".

I can't help but feel rather... how should I say... uncertain about the Ferguson MO verdict.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I can't help but feel rather... how should I say... uncertain about the Ferguson MO verdict.

Nana!

What happened with the Ferguson verdict?

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I can't help but feel rather... how should I say... uncertain about the Ferguson MO verdict.

Nana!

What happened with the Ferguson verdict?

Not indicted, or no true bill in legal terms as American NSers have explained to me.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I can't help but feel rather... how should I say... uncertain about the Ferguson MO verdict.

Nana!

What happened with the Ferguson verdict?

The Grand Jury said there was insufficient evidence to support the indictment of the police officer that shot and killed 18 yo Michael Brown in Ferguson MO.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nana!

What happened with the Ferguson verdict?

The Grand Jury said there was insufficient evidence to support the indictment of the police officer that shot and killed 18 yo Michael Brown in Ferguson MO.

Well, as far as I know Grand Juries are a "testing ground" for lawyers in a case.

If there's a "no bill" the prosecutor of the State doesn't push the case to the courts. I mean, the prosecutor can, but it's not adviced.

In the case of Missouri, a no bill might be different, but the prosecution can't and shouldn't go with it because lawyers seek to win cases, not to lose them.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


The Grand Jury said there was insufficient evidence to support the indictment of the police officer that shot and killed 18 yo Michael Brown in Ferguson MO.

Well, as far as I know Grand Juries are a "testing ground" for lawyers in a case.

If there's a "no bill" the prosecutor of the State doesn't push the case to the courts. I mean, the prosecutor can, but it's not adviced.

In the case of Missouri, a no bill might be different, but the prosecution can't and shouldn't go with it because lawyers seek to win cases, not to lose them.

At least this was left open for the FBI to compare information with possible federal charges to see if, under federal law, any infractions may have been committed.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, as far as I know Grand Juries are a "testing ground" for lawyers in a case.

If there's a "no bill" the prosecutor of the State doesn't push the case to the courts. I mean, the prosecutor can, but it's not adviced.

In the case of Missouri, a no bill might be different, but the prosecution can't and shouldn't go with it because lawyers seek to win cases, not to lose them.

At least this was left open for the FBI to compare information with possible federal charges to see if, under federal law, any infractions may have been committed.

That's the right move that should be done in this case.

People often forget that Grand Juries are not professionals. They're people like you and me, and we're also prone to be swayed by convincing arguments and evidence that supports the arguments.

That thread is giving me a headache.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
At least this was left open for the FBI to compare information with possible federal charges to see if, under federal law, any infractions may have been committed.

That's the right move that should be done in this case.

People often forget that Grand Juries are not professionals. They're people like you and me, and we're also prone to be swayed by convincing arguments and evidence that supports the arguments.

I just can't shake the feeling that this wasn't handled properly.

Good God. That poor family needs support now more than ever.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
That's the right move that should be done in this case.

People often forget that Grand Juries are not professionals. They're people like you and me, and we're also prone to be swayed by convincing arguments and evidence that supports the arguments.

I just can't shake the feeling that this wasn't handled properly.

I feel like there might have been a procedural error, given the fact that with the available evidence in the case it should have at least gone past the GJ.

Mavorpen wrote:That thread is giving me a headache.

I'm trying to follow.

And all I can do is see how both sides are duking it out in that thread.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:That thread is giving me a headache.

I'm trying to follow.

And all I can do is see how both sides are duking it out in that thread.

I predict it'll be locked before the week's out. Hell, maybe before Thanksgiving.

Arcturus Novus wrote:Good God. That poor family needs support now more than ever.

I agree.

I wouldn't say I agree with the riots though.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I just can't shake the feeling that this wasn't handled properly.

I feel like there might have been a procedural error, given the fact that with the available evidence in the case it should have at least gone past the GJ.

I think the ''witnesses'' that first told one story and then retracted their testimonies may have done harm to the case.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Arcturus Novus wrote:Good God. That poor family needs support now more than ever.

I agree.

I wouldn't say I agree with the riots though.

Nobody sensible does. Neither do many of the other protesters.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:That thread is giving me a headache.

I'm trying to follow.

And all I can do is see how both sides are duking it out in that thread.

I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Mavorpen wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm trying to follow.

And all I can do is see how both sides are duking it out in that thread.

I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Indeed. Alas, it is America after all, so we shouldn't expect a whole hell of a lot.

Mavorpen wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm trying to follow.

And all I can do is see how both sides are duking it out in that thread.

I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Indeed.

The main issue is that our system still operates, sadly, under a racial profiling system all over the country.

If you're a minority and poor you have statistically more chances to be wrongfully tried than a member of the majority in the same socioeconomic position, even though the UCRs show the data otherwise.

Either that, or for your case to be completely vilified if the aggressor managed to kill you.

Well, time for me to go to bed. G'night.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Indeed.

The main issue is that our system still operates, sadly, under a racial profiling system all over the country.

If you're a minority and poor you have statistically more chances to be wrongfully tried than a member of the majority in the same socioeconomic position, even though the UCRs show the data otherwise.

Either that, or for your case to be completely vilified if the aggressor managed to kill you.

Bravo.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Indeed.

The main issue is that our system still operates, sadly, under a racial profiling system all over the country.

If you're a minority and poor you have statistically more chances to be wrongfully tried than a member of the majority in the same socioeconomic position, even though the UCRs show the data otherwise.

Either that, or for your case to be completely vilified if the aggressor managed to kill you.

Who are we referring to now? There's been too many in recent years.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Indeed.

The main issue is that our system still operates, sadly, under a racial profiling system all over the country.

If you're a minority and poor you have statistically more chances to be wrongfully tried than a member of the majority in the same socioeconomic position, even though the UCRs show the data otherwise.

Either that, or for your case to be completely vilified if the aggressor managed to kill you.

It's even more alarming to see the statistics. Young black men have the short end of the stick here.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:I'm mostly annoyed because there's something MUCH more important that should be discussed: how Ferguson should go about fixing their obviously flawed police system, and how this needs to be addressed on a national scale.

Indeed.

The main issue is that our system still operates, sadly, under a racial profiling system all over the country.

If you're a minority and poor you have statistically more chances to be wrongfully tried than a member of the majority in the same socioeconomic position, even though the UCRs show the data otherwise.

Either that, or for your case to be completely vilified if the aggressor managed to kill you.

It doesn't help that we have people in the country insisting that racism no longer exists and that we should be "colorblind," which is nothing more than a code word for "do nothing so that the system can continue to be fucked up, but hey, at least I pretended like I actually care."

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Indeed.

The main issue is that our system still operates, sadly, under a racial profiling system all over the country.

If you're a minority and poor you have statistically more chances to be wrongfully tried than a member of the majority in the same socioeconomic position, even though the UCRs show the data otherwise.

Either that, or for your case to be completely vilified if the aggressor managed to kill you.

It's even more alarming to see the statistics. Young black men have the short end of the stick here.

Indeed.

It doesn't mean that all minorities are less harmed by this racial profiling though.