Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:30 pmAinin wrote:Wait, I just realized we forgot to ask Kam's opinion, like the law said...
On....?
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:30 pmOn....?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:30 pmPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:31 pmPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:31 pmPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:32 pmThis discussion really shouldn't be in the Chamber.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:33 pm
. *Acts like he knows what he is talking about*Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:33 pmYanalia wrote:This discussion really shouldn't be in the Chamber.
Apologies, Senate President pro Tempore. If Kam could confirm here in his next post, we're done with the discussion.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:31 pmWait, I'm lost with all this "nonsense" posts behind me (in the sense they're not fully related to the chamber). Which bills are we debating now? I got lost after we confirmed Ainin as PM.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:59 pmFixed the simbed thingCTALNH wrote:Add this:Night watch ActAuthor: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Safety and Order Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)
Aware that our country is facing a huge unrest because of criminal elements,
Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,
This Act:
Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,
Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,
Defines a "night watch organization" as:
1. A Watch or Guard that roam streets at night, especially for security
2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:03 pmCTALNH wrote:Add this:Night watch ActAuthor: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Security Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)
Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements,
Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,
This Act:
Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,
Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,
Defines a "night watch organization" as:
1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, especially for security
2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard
Don't we have rules governing grammar correctness in bills? I count a number of problems and you should review and revise.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:09 pmMediciano wrote:CTALNH wrote:Add this:Night watch ActAuthor: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Security Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)
Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements,
Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,
This Act:
Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,
Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,
Defines a "night watch organization" as:
1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, especially for security
2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard
Don't we have rules governing grammar correctness in bills? I count a number of problems and you should review and revise.
Like?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:45 pmPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:23 amPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:56 amCTALNH wrote:Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements,
1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, especially for security
^^ I see those mistakes. There are probably more, I'm too sleepy to think correctly. But my grammar nazi side knows those two mistakes I pointed are, indeed, mistakes. A better punctuation in the bill wouldn't hurt, either.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:42 amCTALNH wrote:I don't have microsoft word.
Google Docs.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:52 amCTALNH wrote:Fixed the simbed thingCTALNH wrote:Add this:Night watch ActAuthor: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Safety and Order Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)
Aware that our country is facing a huge unrest because of criminal elements,
Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,
This Act:
Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,
Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,
Defines a "night watch organization" as:
1. A Watch or Guard that roam streets at night, especially for security
2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard
What idiocy is this?
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:00 amPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:10 amPlease keep the discussion in the chamber about the current bills at debate. Take your concern about CTALNH's bill to the coffee shop.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:24 amLamaredia wrote:Please keep the discussion in the chamber about the current bills at debate. Take your concern about CTALNH's bill to the coffee shop.
This, please.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:43 amI think this goes here. If not then oops
I, Ziegenhain, give Placenza permission to vote on my behalf for all bills unless I submit votes different to that of Placenza's, in which case my votes will nullify the votes that Placenza has cast for me, and my votes will be counted.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:42 amSo when does voting begin?
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:59 amPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:04 pmAinin wrote:4d. No, that's like saying running a red light is OK if no one is around. It would lead to bad habits.
With the exception of speed limits, which, as rude as you may find it, is an area where you seem adamant about protecting people from themselves, your other counterpoints are logical. This one is just ridiculous, though. If a train is coming, signals and/or lowered arms should make it quite obvious. If a train is not coming, there is absolutely zero reason to stop - literally none. Nothing. No way you can support this with any logic.
At the risk of being somehow indicted with insulted your knowledge, I will point out once more, with great emphasis, that the bill mandates full stops at all railway crossings, which is wholly unacceptable with modern technology enabling the detection of coming trains at a long distance and for the signal to stop at crossings to be given only as necessary.
I would also like to know if you are aware of other nations where full stops at railroad crossings are always necessary, because I can testify that they are not in the vast majority of the nations of the world, including the United Kingdom to which many senators seem to enjoy sucking up.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:37 pmOCC:What about the Restriction of Corporal Punishment act? Will that be added to the voting and debate?
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:54 pmCTALNH wrote:You have a problem?
Yes. Firstly, you don't need a paramilitary, even if you call it a "guard", because that's what you have a "security" force for. Secondly, there's no regulations surrounding the use of said guard and thirdly, it's completely and utterly retarded and full of mistakes. Who the fuck would let armed citizens roam the street at night? I wouldn't trust half the people in my own fucking party with firearms let alone rednecks.
Only a complete and utter idiot would think "Hmm. This is good".