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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:03 pm
by New Zepuha
Oneracon wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:
What if they want outside members to lead the party?

Then what is the point of creating the separate party? If the ideologies are so similar then they don't need to be separate parties, or it shouldn't be a hassle for one outside party member to shift their official membership.

So I assume then we have to make them honorary members? This bill just seems to limit free choice of the parties all for limiting party membership.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:07 pm
by Oneracon
New Zepuha wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Then what is the point of creating the separate party? If the ideologies are so similar then they don't need to be separate parties, or it shouldn't be a hassle for one outside party member to shift their official membership.

So I assume then we have to make them honorary members? This bill just seems to limit free choice of the parties all for limiting party membership.

It proposes very reasonable limits which still allow Senators to declare their support for parties beyond their primary affiliation, as I said it is a compromise.

This bill creates categories of membership for the purpose of administration of the Senate, and does not place any restrictions on the rights of Honorary members within the party they have Honorary membership for.

If a party wishes for Honorary members to have equal say in party affairs then this bill does not interfere with it at all, it does not affect internal party policies any more than the minimum required to implement these common standards.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:09 pm
by New Zepuha
K, Sponsored.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:20 pm
by Oneracon
New Zepuha wrote:K, Sponsored.

Much obliged, I have updated the bill's text in the Chamber so that confusion on the topic can be avoided in future.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:24 pm
by The Neo-Confederate States of America
Ainin wrote:This is a joke bill that's not going to be tabled.

A Ban on Coronation Street

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Affirming that the British television programme Coronation Street is boring as shit,

Noting that the slow-paced action in the series is more boring than watching paint dry in a tropical rainforest,

Declaring that no one should have to endure the pain of watching bad soap operas,

Hereby outlaws the series Coronation Street.


This bill has my full support.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:45 pm
by Britanno
Ainin wrote:This is a joke bill that's not going to be tabled.

A Ban on Coronation Street

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Affirming that the British television programme Coronation Street is boring as shit,

Noting that the slow-paced action in the series is more boring than watching paint dry in a tropical rainforest,

Declaring that no one should have to endure the pain of watching bad soap operas,

Hereby outlaws the series Coronation Street.


Can you ban EastEnders while you're at it as well?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:46 pm
by Placenza
Oneracon wrote:Bringing this back...

Partisan Politics Act
An Act to apply standards with the goal of ensuring proper recognition of political affiliation

Urgency: Moderate | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Senate Procedures
Sponsors: Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Geilinor [NDP], Yanalia [RG], Malgrave [MSP]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

APPLAUDING the wide variety of political parties, official and unofficial, that represent the diversity of the Aurentine political spectrum in the Senate;

CONCERNED that the current lack of regulation has led to situations where Senators are members of opposing parties and coalitions, as well as the creation of parties that are entirely made up of Senators with an existing affiliation;

NONETHELESS AFFIRMING the freedom to create and join political parties;

SEEKING to develop a compromise to improve upon the current system while maintaining a Senator's freedom to support as many parties of their choice;

HEREBY ENACTS the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act, "political party" shall be defined as a group of Senators who voluntarily join together as an organization that espouses a specific political ideology or ideologies.
  2. For the purposes of this Act, "Senate" shall be defined as the Senate of Aurentina.
  3. For the purposes of this Act, "Senator" shall be defined as a member of the Senate.
  4. For the purposes of this Act, "official political party" shall be defined as a political party recognized as having sufficient support to be accorded recognition by the Senate.

    Membership Classes
  5. All political parties shall create two classes of membership: "Official" and "Honorary".
    1. Official memberships shall used to recognize a Senator's primary political party; and
    2. Honorary memberships shall be used to recognize symbolic support for additional political parties.
    On the Holding of Different Membership Classes
  6. Each Senator may hold Official membership in one (1) political party in the Senate.
  7. There shall be no limit to the number of Honorary memberships a Senator may hold.

    Party Leadership
  8. The leader of a political party shall be required to be an Official member of said party.

    Official Party Status
  9. Political parties require ten (10) Official members to be declared an official political party.


I'll sponsor

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:36 pm
by Phocidaea
First Amendment to the 23 November Act

Urgency: Moderate | Author: Phocidaea (NDP) | Category: Law and Order
Sponsors: Oneracon (RG), Resora (CP), Geilinor (NDP), Uiiop(NDP)

The Senate of Aurentina,

ACKNOWLEDGING the threat terrorism and organised crime poses to Aurentina;
APPALLED at the potential for abuse of power stemming from the following language in the 23 November Act:
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

HEREBY AMENDS the act as follows:

1. The section reading:
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

Shall be struck out, and replaced with the following:
The Minister of the Interior, with the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, may call a special session of the Senate to decide by simple majority whether to outlaw an organisation as a terrorist or organised crime organisation.

Ainin, Zepuha, and Oneracon seem to be happily bill-pimping, so I will join in.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:38 pm
by Geilinor
Phocidaea wrote:
First Amendment to the 23 November Act
Author: Phocidaea (NDP)
Sponsors: Belmaria (LP/FP/ALM), Oneracon (RG), Resora (CP)


The Senate of Aurentina,

ACKNOWLEDGING the threat terrorism and organised crime poses to Aurentina;
APPALLED at the potential for abuse of power stemming from the following language in the 23 November Act:
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

HEREBY AMENDS the act as follows:

1. The section reading:
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

Shall be struck out, and replaced with the following:
The Minister of the Interior, with the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, may call a special session of the Senate to decide by simple majority whether to outlaw an organisation as a terrorist or organised crime organisation.

Ainin, Zepuha, and Oneracon seem to be happily bill-pimping, so I will join in.

Sponsored.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:39 pm
by Uiiop
Phocidaea wrote:
First Amendment to the 23 November Act
Author: Phocidaea (NDP)
Sponsors: Belmaria (LP/FP/ALM), Oneracon (RG), Resora (CP)


The Senate of Aurentina,

ACKNOWLEDGING the threat terrorism and organised crime poses to Aurentina;
APPALLED at the potential for abuse of power stemming from the following language in the 23 November Act:
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

HEREBY AMENDS the act as follows:

1. The section reading:
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

Shall be struck out, and replaced with the following:
The Minister of the Interior, with the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, may call a special session of the Senate to decide by simple majority whether to outlaw an organisation as a terrorist or organised crime organisation.

Ainin, Zepuha, and Oneracon seem to be happily bill-pimping, so I will join in.

Also sponsored

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:06 pm
by Phocidaea
I've never actually gotten more than a single sponsor on any bill before. How many do I need before I can submit it?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:08 pm
by Yanalia
Phocidaea wrote:I've never actually gotten more than a single sponsor on any bill before. How many do I need before I can submit it?


Four I believe.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:39 pm
by New Zepuha
Phocidaea wrote:I've never actually gotten more than a single sponsor on any bill before. How many do I need before I can submit it?

Belmaria is no longer a senator, you must remove him as a sponsor.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:34 am
by New Bierstaat
Draft stage for now, anyone got anything to add? I also need sponsors, hopefully a lot of sponsors. I'd like to have fifteen before I submit it.
RESOLUTION
CONDEMNING PAFLA AND ITS ATTACK ON LEISHAAGEN

Urgency: High | Author: Sen. Buck Jones (New Bierstaat) (L-20) | Category: Law and Order
Sponsors (12): Jennifer Broflovski Coren (Corenea) (R-456); Charles Machiavelli (Dendart) (CM-AL); Branko Aleksic (Macedonian Grand Empire) (R-106); Adam Nolan (Uiiop) (ND-42); Ganja-Lord Tupac (I-AL); Adriaan Vrjyet (The Neo-Confederate States of America) (L-72); Edward von Engels (Zurkerx) (L-282); Alexei Stepashin (Osea 767) (C-311); Resora (C-296); Haulenor (RG-291); Alexander Boris De Pfeffel William Johnson (The Nihilistic view) (ALM-107); Marius Kruger (Mediciano) (IP-85); FreeOlesia (I); Diopolis (CM-AL)


Whereas, in January 2014, the organization known as the "People's Armed Force for the Liberation of Aurentina (PAFLA)" engaged in a terrorist action in Leishaagen, killing over 600 people and destroying at least two buildings;

Whereas the attack was the worst ever seen on Aurentine soil since independence;

Whereas PAFLA's attacks and stated mission are not the will of the people and seek to overwhelm the will of the Aurentine people by overthrow of a democratically elected government; and

Whereas the investigation to identify and prosecute the responsible parties is ongoing:

The Senate of Aurentina:

  1. condemns, in the strongest of terms, the terrorist acts committed in January 2014 in the near southeast district of Leishaagen;
  2. offers its condolences to the families and friends of those who were killed or injured as a result of the attacks;
  3. condemns PAFLA as an anti-government terrorist organization which plans to overthrow the government; and
  4. thanks the Gendarmes for their continued service to our nation in a time of peril.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:36 am
by Corenea
New Bierstaat wrote:Draft stage for now, anyone got anything to add? I also need sponsors, hopefully a lot of sponsors. I'd like to have fifteen before I submit it.
RESOLUTION
CONDEMNING PAFLA AND ITS ATTACK ON LEISHAAGEN

Urgency: High | Author: Sen. Buck Jones (New Bierstaat) (L-20) | Category: Law and Order
Sponsors:


Whereas, in January 2014, the organization known as the "People's Armed Force for the Liberation of Aurentina (PAFLA)" engaged in a terrorist action in Leishaagen, killing over 600 people and destroying at least two buildings;

Whereas the attack was the worst ever seen on Aurentine soil since independence;

Whereas PAFLA's attacks and stated mission are not the will of the people and seek to overwhelm the will of the Aurentine people by overthrow of a democratically elected government; and

Whereas the investigation to identify and prosecute the responsible parties is ongoing:

The Senate of Aurentina:

  1. condemns, in the strongest of terms, the terrorist acts committed in January 2014 in the near southeast district of Leishaagen;
  2. offers its condolences to the families and friends of those who were killed or injured as a result of the attacks;
  3. condemns PAFLA as an anti-government terrorist organization and marks it as such for government and prosecution purposes; and
  4. thanks the Gendarmes for their continued service to our nation in a time of peril.

Sponsered

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:37 am
by The Nihilistic view
NB can you get on our IRCC?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:44 am
by New Bierstaat
The Nihilistic view wrote:NB can you get on our IRCC?

I'm on.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:46 am
by Ainin
New Bierstaat wrote:Draft stage for now, anyone got anything to add? I also need sponsors, hopefully a lot of sponsors. I'd like to have fifteen before I submit it.
RESOLUTION
CONDEMNING PAFLA AND ITS ATTACK ON LEISHAAGEN

Urgency: High | Author: Sen. Buck Jones (New Bierstaat) (L-20) | Category: Law and Order
Sponsors:


Whereas, in January 2014, the organization known as the "People's Armed Force for the Liberation of Aurentina (PAFLA)" engaged in a terrorist action in Leishaagen, killing over 600 people and destroying at least two buildings;

Whereas the attack was the worst ever seen on Aurentine soil since independence;

Whereas PAFLA's attacks and stated mission are not the will of the people and seek to overwhelm the will of the Aurentine people by overthrow of a democratically elected government; and

Whereas the investigation to identify and prosecute the responsible parties is ongoing:

The Senate of Aurentina:

  1. condemns, in the strongest of terms, the terrorist acts committed in January 2014 in the near southeast district of Leishaagen;
  2. offers its condolences to the families and friends of those who were killed or injured as a result of the attacks;
  3. condemns PAFLA as an anti-government terrorist organization and marks it as such for government and prosecution purposes; and
  4. thanks the Gendarmes for their continued service to our nation in a time of peril.

PAFLA didn't cause the theatre siege.

The Mafia did.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:05 am
by New Bierstaat
Ainin wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Draft stage for now, anyone got anything to add? I also need sponsors, hopefully a lot of sponsors. I'd like to have fifteen before I submit it.
RESOLUTION
CONDEMNING PAFLA AND ITS ATTACK ON LEISHAAGEN

Urgency: High | Author: Sen. Buck Jones (New Bierstaat) (L-20) | Category: Law and Order
Sponsors:


Whereas, in January 2014, the organization known as the "People's Armed Force for the Liberation of Aurentina (PAFLA)" engaged in a terrorist action in Leishaagen, killing over 600 people and destroying at least two buildings;

Whereas the attack was the worst ever seen on Aurentine soil since independence;

Whereas PAFLA's attacks and stated mission are not the will of the people and seek to overwhelm the will of the Aurentine people by overthrow of a democratically elected government; and

Whereas the investigation to identify and prosecute the responsible parties is ongoing:

The Senate of Aurentina:

  1. condemns, in the strongest of terms, the terrorist acts committed in January 2014 in the near southeast district of Leishaagen;
  2. offers its condolences to the families and friends of those who were killed or injured as a result of the attacks;
  3. condemns PAFLA as an anti-government terrorist organization and marks it as such for government and prosecution purposes; and
  4. thanks the Gendarmes for their continued service to our nation in a time of peril.

PAFLA didn't cause the theatre siege.

The Mafia did.

I'll need some input from Nihil before we actually submit this to queue, but suffice it to say that all parties who had a part in perpetrating this will be duly condemned.

The terrorists blew up the building, not the mafia.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:12 am
by Ganja-Lord Tupac
Can I sponsor this new-fangled "Criminal Negligence" Bill?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:16 am
by New Zepuha
New Zepuha wrote:
Criminal Negligence Act


| Author: New Zepuha [ALM] | Sponsors: The Neo-Confederate States of America [ANL], Oneracon [RG], Ganja-Lord Tupac [Ind.]| Category: Order | Urgency: Low |




Section 0. Preamble -

Believing that fleeing an area in which a crime or accident has occurred is a great danger to public order. Those who knowingly are involved in a vehicular accident and flee without consulting officials or refusing aide to people they have purposefully ignored, should be punished accordingly. This bill is with intent to ensure the broad safety of motorists.

Section 1. Fleeing the Scene of an Accident -

When a motor vehicle accident has occurred, by any number of vehicles people involved in this crash may not flee the scene without a relevant medical issue that would justify their fleeing. Otherwise, those who know they have been involved in an accident must remain, check the safety of the other motorists [if possible], and contact the relevant authorities. Anyone witnessing said accident and are able to safely pull to the side of the road must stop to aide or contact relevant authorities [chiefly the police and fire department]. Prosecution must be able to prove that someone knowingly fled the scene of an accident.

Section 2. Criminal Offences Relating to Criminal Negligence -

Fleeing The Scene of an Accident - Anyone who knowingly flees the scene of an accident without a pressing need for medical attention, is held liable for the crime of negligence. Such as if car A crashes into the rear of B and the driver of A or B flees the scene. This can be a Delict or Contravention depending on the severity, to be determined by the judges.

This includes complicity in said crime.


Hereby signs into law and passes the Criminal Negligence Act

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:21 am
by CTALNH
New Zepuha wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:
Criminal Negligence Act


| Author: New Zepuha [ALM] | Sponsors: The Neo-Confederate States of America [ANL], Oneracon [RG], Ganja-Lord Tupac [Ind.]| Category: Order | Urgency: Low |




Section 0. Preamble -

Believing that fleeing an area in which a crime or accident has occurred is a great danger to public order. Those who knowingly are involved in a vehicular accident and flee without consulting officials or refusing aide to people they have purposefully ignored, should be punished accordingly. This bill is with intent to ensure the broad safety of motorists.

Section 1. Fleeing the Scene of an Accident -

When a motor vehicle accident has occurred, by any number of vehicles people involved in this crash may not flee the scene without a relevant medical issue that would justify their fleeing. Otherwise, those who know they have been involved in an accident must remain, check the safety of the other motorists [if possible], and contact the relevant authorities. Anyone witnessing said accident and are able to safely pull to the side of the road must stop to aide or contact relevant authorities [chiefly the police and fire department]. Prosecution must be able to prove that someone knowingly fled the scene of an accident.

Section 2. Criminal Offences Relating to Criminal Negligence -

Fleeing The Scene of an Accident - Anyone who knowingly flees the scene of an accident without a pressing need for medical attention, is held liable for the crime of negligence. Such as if car A crashes into the rear of B and the driver of A or B flees the scene. This can be a Delict or Contravention depending on the severity, to be determined by the judges.

This includes complicity in said crime.


Hereby signs into law and passes the Criminal Negligence Act

Sponsored.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:22 am
by NSG Senate Administrators
CTALNH wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:

Sponsored.

Get out.

-Ainin

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:25 am
by CTALNH
NSG Senate Administrators wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Sponsored.

Get out.

-Ainin

No I do not recognize your authority.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:34 am
by Farnhamia
CTALNH wrote:
NSG Senate Administrators wrote:Get out.

-Ainin

No I do not recognize your authority.

Do you recognize mine? There is thread ownership in Forum 7 for role-play threads, of which this is one. You've been asked to stop posting. Stop posting.