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Lemonius wrote:

Great Nepal wrote:Voting out business management without holding shares is stupid idea and illegal has enough sponsors to be added to queue.

I move that the bill be removed from the queue until such time as the bill has an appropriate title for a legislative act

It is an appropriate title for a legislative act, senator. If it appeases you, I could add word "act" after "illegal" though.

Lemonius wrote:

Great Nepal wrote:Voting out business management without holding shares is stupid idea and illegal has enough sponsors to be added to queue.

I move that the bill be removed from the queue until such time as the bill has an appropriate title for a legislative act

Seconded: Nepal, It's a great piece of legislation... but come on, give it a proper name.

Unicario wrote:

Lemonius wrote:
I move that the bill be removed from the queue until such time as the bill has an appropriate title for a legislative act

Seconded: Nepal, It's a great piece of legislation... but come on, give it a proper name.

Third.

Edit: I misread the motion. I support the bill, and Oppose withdrawing it from the queue.

Jetan wrote:

Oneracon wrote:
Third.

Fourth.

Fifthed.

Oneracon wrote:If I may interject, Senators, I move that the Internet Registration Act (InteRAct) be added to the queue.

Internet Registration Act
Urgency: Moderate

Author: Oneracon [RG]
Co-sponsors: Ainin [TR], Potenco [RG], Quebec and Atlantic Canada [RG], Byzantium Imperial [NIFP], Phing Phong [RG]

RECOGNISING that most self-governing entities in the world today have their own Country Code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) within the Domain Name System of the Internet.

ASSERTING that, as an independent nation, Aurentina must offer its citizens and businesses access to a ccTLD.

DECLARING .an to be the ccTLD of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

HEREBY incorporates the Aurentina Network Information Centre (AurNIC) as a non-profit corporation, overseen by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy, charged with the maintenance and registration of Aurentine domain names.

MANDATES the following;

.an ccTLD Registration Requirements

1. AurNIC shall act at all times to preserve the .an domain name as an Aurentine resource operated and managed by citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth.
2. Registrants of .an domains must be:
   • Citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth; OR
   • Corporations or other entities as defined by Aurentine law that maintain a physical presence in the Aurentine Commonwealth
   AurNIC Membership
3. All registrants of .an domains shall be members of AurNIC, with membership occurring automatically 15 days from the time of registration
4. Registrants have the right to refuse or rescind membership at any time without giving up their registered domain name
   
   AurNIC as an Aurentine Entity
5. AurNIC shall always be an entity defined by Aurentine law and have both a majority of its operations and its primary name server physically located in the Aurentine Commonwealth.
   
   AurNIC Board
6. AurNIC shall be managed by the AurNIC Board, a Board of Directors consisting of 7 Directors elected annually by the members of the corporation and 1 permanent non-voting Director.
7. The Minister of Research and Astronomy, or a designated delegate, shall hold the permanent non-voting seat on the AurNIC Board.
8. Directors on the AurNIC Board shall consist only of Aurentine citizens.
9. Directors on the AurNIC Board shall be elected for two-year terms.
10. There shall be no maximum number of terms for Directors.
11. All decisions of the AurNIC Board shall require a simple majority (51%) to pass.
    
    First AurNIC Board
12. The first AurNIC Board shall be appointed by a Senate committee chaired by the Minister of Research and Astronomy.
13. Half of the appointed directors, chosen by random drawing, are to be nominated for a one-year term to ensure future elections maintain a combination of rotation and continuity.
    
    AurNIC Services
14. AurNIC shall provide the following services:
    • Maintenance of the Aurentine name database within the Domain Name System
    • Services for registrars to register and maintain domain names in the AurNIC name database
    • Online electronic query services for said name database
    • Domain name resolution services for .an domains
    Future Representation
15. As the governance of the Internet evolves, it may become necessary for AurNIC to participate in various international forums. If these events occur AurNIC shall be the designated representative of the Aurentine Commonwealth to these forums.
    
    Registrar System
16. Any corporate entity, such as an Internet Service Provider, or individual can be charged with registering .an domain names with AurNIC on behalf of consumers.
17. Registrars must pay an annual fee (to be determined by the AurNIC Board), show adequate financial stability, and demonstrate adequate technical capacity to obtain and maintain AurNIC approved registrar status.
18. There shall be no set limit on the number of registrars.
    
    AurNIC as a Registrar
19. To ensure smooth operation AurNIC shall operate as a registrar for 1 year following its formation.
20. Extending this service beyond the first year of operation shall require approval of the AurNIC Board.
    
    Registrants and Applicants
21. Applicant for .an domains shall be granted any acceptable and available names if they meet appropriate criteria.
22. There shall be no limit to the number of names an applicant may register.
23. AurNIC shall maintain a list of restricted domain names that are not available for public registration. This list shall be updated regularly by the AurNIC Board.
24. Generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) shall be reserved by AurNIC and not available for public registration. This includes, but is not limited to: .com.an, .edu.an, .net.an, .org.an
25. The aforementioned domains may be registered as subdomains, such as: example.com.an
    
    Domains for Government Use
26. The following domains are reserved for government use, registration of subdomains on these domains must be approved by the Minister of Research and Astronomy.
    
    • gov.an - Aurentine government
    • sen.an - Aurentine Senate
    • mil.an - National Defense Force
    • npf.an - National Police Force
    Fees
27. AurNIC shall set fees for the registration and renewal of .an domains.
28. AurNIC shall review its fee structure on an annual basis and require approval from the AurNIC Board to implement changes.
    
    AurNIC Autonomy
29. The AurNIC Board shall make regulations covering aspects of ccTLD governance not given in this act.

Seconded, because it's a necessary law, while grumbling at "Corporations or other entities as defined by Aurentine law that maintain a physical presence in the Aurentine Commonwealth". Apologies for not joining the debate earlier, Senators. I'd be more comfortable with a stricter requirement of domesticity, for example, a minimum percentage of stock owned by Aurentine citizens.

Lemonius wrote:

Great Nepal wrote:Voting out business management without holding shares is stupid idea and illegal has enough sponsors to be added to queue.

I move that the bill be removed from the queue until such time as the bill has an appropriate title for a legislative act

Sixthed. It contains a hostile summary and other language specifically hostile to several Parties which have, frankly, acted with more democratic means than the abusive Senator. We ought to compose ourselves with decorum and make positive arguments for our beliefs. In response to the narrow defeat of WEA, while the abusive Senator has generated hostility over our democratic proposals and himself suggested various insultingly anti-democratic measures like attempting to force our alliance with NATO which he knows is repugnant to several Parties including the one currently employing the role of Prime Minister, the Communists have begun drafting at least four separate, more moderate proposals which take the general opinion of the Senate into greater consideration, like my bill which will merely encourage the voluntary organization of collectives among the unemployed so that no one has to lose their factory because of Senate decisions. I've been happy to receive feedback from Senator Nihl, who I've clashed with before in these halls.

As we appeal to Senators to vote with their conscience, the abusive Senator aims to undermine every urge toward democracy which is not compatible with his own ends. Senators, we ought to conduct ourselves better.

OOC: FFS, I'm an anarchist and I play nicer with Senators than GN does

Herrebrugh wrote:

Jetan wrote:Fourth.

Fifthed.

Sixth. Change the name! First, bills calling things stupid are unprofessional. Second, I'm not a fan of sensationalized bill names or acronyms, like PATRIOT or DREAM.

Free South Califas wrote:

Oneracon wrote:If I may interject, Senators, I move that the Internet Registration Act (InteRAct) be added to the queue.

Internet Registration Act
Urgency: Moderate

Author: Oneracon [RG]
Co-sponsors: Ainin [TR], Potenco [RG], Quebec and Atlantic Canada [RG], Byzantium Imperial [NIFP], Phing Phong [RG]

RECOGNISING that most self-governing entities in the world today have their own Country Code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) within the Domain Name System of the Internet.

ASSERTING that, as an independent nation, Aurentina must offer its citizens and businesses access to a ccTLD.

DECLARING .an to be the ccTLD of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

HEREBY incorporates the Aurentina Network Information Centre (AurNIC) as a non-profit corporation, overseen by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy, charged with the maintenance and registration of Aurentine domain names.

MANDATES the following;

.an ccTLD Registration Requirements

1. AurNIC shall act at all times to preserve the .an domain name as an Aurentine resource operated and managed by citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth.
2. Registrants of .an domains must be:
   • Citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth; OR
   • Corporations or other entities as defined by Aurentine law that maintain a physical presence in the Aurentine Commonwealth
   AurNIC Membership
3. All registrants of .an domains shall be members of AurNIC, with membership occurring automatically 15 days from the time of registration
4. Registrants have the right to refuse or rescind membership at any time without giving up their registered domain name
   
   AurNIC as an Aurentine Entity
5. AurNIC shall always be an entity defined by Aurentine law and have both a majority of its operations and its primary name server physically located in the Aurentine Commonwealth.
   
   AurNIC Board
6. AurNIC shall be managed by the AurNIC Board, a Board of Directors consisting of 7 Directors elected annually by the members of the corporation and 1 permanent non-voting Director.
7. The Minister of Research and Astronomy, or a designated delegate, shall hold the permanent non-voting seat on the AurNIC Board.
8. Directors on the AurNIC Board shall consist only of Aurentine citizens.
9. Directors on the AurNIC Board shall be elected for two-year terms.
10. There shall be no maximum number of terms for Directors.
11. All decisions of the AurNIC Board shall require a simple majority (51%) to pass.
    
    First AurNIC Board
12. The first AurNIC Board shall be appointed by a Senate committee chaired by the Minister of Research and Astronomy.
13. Half of the appointed directors, chosen by random drawing, are to be nominated for a one-year term to ensure future elections maintain a combination of rotation and continuity.
    
    AurNIC Services
14. AurNIC shall provide the following services:
    • Maintenance of the Aurentine name database within the Domain Name System
    • Services for registrars to register and maintain domain names in the AurNIC name database
    • Online electronic query services for said name database
    • Domain name resolution services for .an domains
    Future Representation
15. As the governance of the Internet evolves, it may become necessary for AurNIC to participate in various international forums. If these events occur AurNIC shall be the designated representative of the Aurentine Commonwealth to these forums.
    
    Registrar System
16. Any corporate entity, such as an Internet Service Provider, or individual can be charged with registering .an domain names with AurNIC on behalf of consumers.
17. Registrars must pay an annual fee (to be determined by the AurNIC Board), show adequate financial stability, and demonstrate adequate technical capacity to obtain and maintain AurNIC approved registrar status.
18. There shall be no set limit on the number of registrars.
    
    AurNIC as a Registrar
19. To ensure smooth operation AurNIC shall operate as a registrar for 1 year following its formation.
20. Extending this service beyond the first year of operation shall require approval of the AurNIC Board.
    
    Registrants and Applicants
21. Applicant for .an domains shall be granted any acceptable and available names if they meet appropriate criteria.
22. There shall be no limit to the number of names an applicant may register.
23. AurNIC shall maintain a list of restricted domain names that are not available for public registration. This list shall be updated regularly by the AurNIC Board.
24. Generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) shall be reserved by AurNIC and not available for public registration. This includes, but is not limited to: .com.an, .edu.an, .net.an, .org.an
25. The aforementioned domains may be registered as subdomains, such as: example.com.an
    
    Domains for Government Use
26. The following domains are reserved for government use, registration of subdomains on these domains must be approved by the Minister of Research and Astronomy.
    
    • gov.an - Aurentine government
    • sen.an - Aurentine Senate
    • mil.an - National Defense Force
    • npf.an - National Police Force
    Fees
27. AurNIC shall set fees for the registration and renewal of .an domains.
28. AurNIC shall review its fee structure on an annual basis and require approval from the AurNIC Board to implement changes.
    
    AurNIC Autonomy
29. The AurNIC Board shall make regulations covering aspects of ccTLD governance not given in this act.

Seconded, because it's a necessary law, while grumbling at "Corporations or other entities as defined by Aurentine law that maintain a physical presence in the Aurentine Commonwealth". Apologies for not joining the debate earlier, Senators. I'd be more comfortable with a stricter requirement of domesticity, for example, a minimum percentage of stock owned by Aurentine citizens.

.an is used by the Netherlands Antilles(now dissolved and a very rare domain, but it still exists).

Geilinor wrote:

Free South Califas wrote:Seconded, because it's a necessary law, while grumbling at "Corporations or other entities as defined by Aurentine law that maintain a physical presence in the Aurentine Commonwealth". Apologies for not joining the debate earlier, Senators. I'd be more comfortable with a stricter requirement of domesticity, for example, a minimum percentage of stock owned by Aurentine citizens.

.an is used by the Netherlands Antilles(now dissolved and a very rare domain, but it still exists).

This was already addressed in the coffee shop.

We can offer domain resolution services to holders of .an domains from the Netherlands Antilles if it's that important, but the fact remains that AN is no longer an ISO 3166 country code (the basis for a ccTLD) and thus we can claim it for ourselves.

It is better to act before October 2013 because that's when IANA will begin to remove .an from the Domain Name System completely, it's far easier to simply claim .an as former Antilles users shift to the ccTLD of Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, and the Caribbean Netherlands.

Oneracon wrote:

Geilinor wrote:.an is used by the Netherlands Antilles(now dissolved and a very rare domain, but it still exists).

This was already addressed in the coffee shop.

We can offer domain resolution services to holders of .an domains from the Netherlands Antilles if it's that important, but the fact remains that AN is no longer an ISO 3166 country code (the basis for a ccTLD) and thus we can claim it for ourselves.

It is better to act before October 2013 because that's when IANA will begin to remove .an from the Domain Name System completely, it's far easier to simply claim .an as former Antilles users shift to the ccTLD of Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, and the Caribbean Netherlands.

Alright.

Glasgia wrote:

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Urgency: High
Drafted by: Glasgia
Co-sponsors: Tom Jenkins, Martin Divair, Great Nepal, Ivan Sallustro, Luke Mollary, Wulukuno Maklohi Porunalakai, Agritum, Chuwit Plueay-gai, Of the Free Socialist Territories, Ainin


This senate must recognise the threat that nuclear weaponry holds to lives across the world. Believing nuclear disarmament is a worthy goal, the senate must understand that the Non-Proliferation Treaty is a major milestone in working towards this goal.


Section One: Ratification
The senate hereby ratifies the "Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons" and allows for the Minister of Foreign Affairs to sign such a treaty.

Section Two: Declaration of a Nuclear Free Zone
This act declares the Commonwealth of Aurentina a nuclear-free zone. Nuclear weapons, or any nuclear material with the intention of causing death or destruction, are to be banned from any territory administered by our nation. If an individual or organisation are found to possess either of the above then the government is permitted to confiscate and then dispose of the weapon, and the owner is subject to being sentened with imprisonment and an undetermined fine. If the government comes into possession of such a weapon or material, they are to dispose of it non-lethally within a period of one year.

To be added to queue.

No freaking way!

*Mentally insane stare*

Oneracon wrote:

Geilinor wrote:.an is used by the Netherlands Antilles(now dissolved and a very rare domain, but it still exists).

This was already addressed in the coffee shop.

We can offer domain resolution services to holders of .an domains from the Netherlands Antilles if it's that important, but the fact remains that AN is no longer an ISO 3166 country code (the basis for a ccTLD) and thus we can claim it for ourselves.

It is better to act before October 2013 because that's when IANA will begin to remove .an from the Domain Name System completely, it's far easier to simply claim .an as former Antilles users shift to the ccTLD of Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, and the Caribbean Netherlands.

Why not just use .aa instead?

Britcan wrote:

Oneracon wrote:
This was already addressed in the coffee shop.

We can offer domain resolution services to holders of .an domains from the Netherlands Antilles if it's that important, but the fact remains that AN is no longer an ISO 3166 country code (the basis for a ccTLD) and thus we can claim it for ourselves.

It is better to act before October 2013 because that's when IANA will begin to remove .an from the Domain Name System completely, it's far easier to simply claim .an as former Antilles users shift to the ccTLD of Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, and the Caribbean Netherlands.

Why not just use .aa instead?

Because .an already exists and is at least somewhat closer our nation's name than .aa, and once again .an can be claimed since the Netherlands Antilles no longer exists and AN is no longer a country code in the ISO 3166 standard.

InteRAct has been amended slightly to address some Senators concerns re: the Netherlands Antilles.

I invite them to reconsider the bill, and request that it be added to the queue as it has the requisite sponsors.

CTALNH wrote:

Glasgia wrote:

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Urgency: High
Drafted by: Glasgia
Co-sponsors: Tom Jenkins, Martin Divair, Great Nepal, Ivan Sallustro, Luke Mollary, Wulukuno Maklohi Porunalakai, Agritum, Chuwit Plueay-gai, Of the Free Socialist Territories, Ainin


This senate must recognise the threat that nuclear weaponry holds to lives across the world. Believing nuclear disarmament is a worthy goal, the senate must understand that the Non-Proliferation Treaty is a major milestone in working towards this goal.


Section One: Ratification
The senate hereby ratifies the "Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons" and allows for the Minister of Foreign Affairs to sign such a treaty.

Section Two: Declaration of a Nuclear Free Zone
This act declares the Commonwealth of Aurentina a nuclear-free zone. Nuclear weapons, or any nuclear material with the intention of causing death or destruction, are to be banned from any territory administered by our nation. If an individual or organisation are found to possess either of the above then the government is permitted to confiscate and then dispose of the weapon, and the owner is subject to being sentened with imprisonment and an undetermined fine. If the government comes into possession of such a weapon or material, they are to dispose of it non-lethally within a period of one year.

To be added to queue.

No freaking way!

*Mentally insane stare*

I'm opposed aswell.

Oneracon wrote:InteRAct has been amended slightly to address some Senators concerns re: the Netherlands Antilles.

I invite them to reconsider the bill, and request that it be added to the queue as it has the requisite sponsors.

Internet Registration Act
Urgency: Moderate

Author: Oneracon [RG]
Co-sponsors: Ainin [TR], Potenco [RG], Quebec and Atlantic Canada [RG], Byzantium Imperial [NIFP], Phing Phong [RG], Funkadelia [LFP]

RECOGNISING that most self-governing entities in the world today have their own Country Code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) within the Domain Name System of the Internet.

ASSERTING that, as an independent nation, Aurentina must offer its citizens and businesses access to a ccTLD.

RECOGNISING that .an is the former ccTLD of the Netherlands Antilles, an entity which has not existed since 2010, and will shortly be removed from the Domain Name System by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA).

DECLARING that it is easier to claim the .an ccTLD as former Netherlands Antilles users transfer to new ccTLDs than it is to request IANA to add further new ccTLDs to the Domain Name System.

HEREBY declares .an to be the ccTLD of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

HEREBY incorporates the Aurentina Network Information Centre (AurNIC) as a non-profit corporation, overseen by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy, charged with the maintenance and registration of Aurentine domain names.

HEREBY MANDATES the following;

.an ccTLD Registration Requirements

1. AurNIC shall act at all times to preserve the .an domain name as an Aurentine resource operated and managed by citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth.
2. Registrants of .an domains must be:
   • Citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth; OR
   • Corporations or other entities as defined by Aurentine law that maintain a physical presence in the Aurentine Commonwealth
   AurNIC Membership
3. All registrants of .an domains shall be members of AurNIC, with membership occurring automatically 15 days from the time of registration
4. Registrants have the right to refuse or rescind membership at any time without giving up their registered domain name
   
   AurNIC as an Aurentine Entity
5. AurNIC shall always be an entity defined by Aurentine law and have both a majority of its operations and its primary name server physically located in the Aurentine Commonwealth.
   
   AurNIC Board
6. AurNIC shall be managed by the AurNIC Board, a Board of Directors consisting of 7 Directors elected annually by the members of the corporation and 1 permanent non-voting Director.
7. The Minister of Research and Astronomy, or a designated delegate, shall hold the permanent non-voting seat on the AurNIC Board.
8. Directors on the AurNIC Board shall consist only of Aurentine citizens.
9. Directors on the AurNIC Board shall be elected for two-year terms.
10. There shall be no maximum number of terms for Directors.
11. All decisions of the AurNIC Board shall require a simple majority (51%) to pass.
    
    First AurNIC Board
12. The first AurNIC Board shall be appointed by a Senate committee chaired by the Minister of Research and Astronomy.
13. Half of the appointed directors, chosen by random drawing, are to be nominated for a one-year term to ensure future elections maintain a combination of rotation and continuity.
    
    AurNIC Services
14. AurNIC shall provide the following services:
    • Maintenance of the Aurentine name database within the Domain Name System
    • Services for registrars to register and maintain domain names in the AurNIC name database
    • Online electronic query services for said name database
    • Domain name resolution services for .an domains
    Future Representation
15. As the governance of the Internet evolves, it may become necessary for AurNIC to participate in various international forums. If these events occur AurNIC shall be the designated representative of the Aurentine Commonwealth to these forums.
    
    Registrar System
16. Any corporate entity, such as an Internet Service Provider, or individual can be charged with registering .an domain names with AurNIC on behalf of consumers.
17. Registrars must pay an annual fee (to be determined by the AurNIC Board), show adequate financial stability, and demonstrate adequate technical capacity to obtain and maintain AurNIC approved registrar status.
18. There shall be no set limit on the number of registrars.
    
    AurNIC as a Registrar
19. To ensure smooth operation AurNIC shall operate as a registrar for 1 year following its formation.
20. Extending this service beyond the first year of operation shall require approval of the AurNIC Board.
    
    Registrants and Applicants
21. Applicant for .an domains shall be granted any acceptable and available names if they meet appropriate criteria.
22. There shall be no limit to the number of names an applicant may register.
23. AurNIC shall maintain a list of restricted domain names that are not available for public registration. This list shall be updated regularly by the AurNIC Board.
24. Generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) shall be reserved by AurNIC and not available for public registration. This includes, but is not limited to: .com.an, .edu.an, .net.an, .org.an
25. The aforementioned domains may be registered as subdomains, such as: example.com.an
    
    Domains for Government Use
26. The following domains are reserved for government use, registration of subdomains on these domains must be approved by the Minister of Research and Astronomy.
    
    • gov.an - Aurentine government
    • sen.an - Aurentine Senate
    • mil.an - National Defense Force
    • npf.an - National Police Force
    Fees
27. AurNIC shall set fees for the registration and renewal of .an domains.
28. AurNIC shall review its fee structure on an annual basis and require approval from the AurNIC Board to implement changes.
    
    AurNIC Autonomy
29. The AurNIC Board shall make regulations covering aspects of ccTLD governance not given in this act.

Seconded & sponsored. Good luck, Senator.

Glasgia wrote:

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Urgency: High
Drafted by: Glasgia
Co-sponsors: Tom Jenkins, Martin Divair, Great Nepal, Ivan Sallustro, Luke Mollary, Wulukuno Maklohi Porunalakai, Agritum, Chuwit Plueay-gai, Of the Free Socialist Territories, Ainin


This senate must recognise the threat that nuclear weaponry holds to lives across the world. Believing nuclear disarmament is a worthy goal, the senate must understand that the Non-Proliferation Treaty is a major milestone in working towards this goal.


Section One: Ratification
The senate hereby ratifies the "Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons" and allows for the Minister of Foreign Affairs to sign such a treaty.

Section Two: Declaration of a Nuclear Free Zone
This act declares the Commonwealth of Aurentina a nuclear-free zone. Nuclear weapons, or any nuclear material with the intention of causing death or destruction, are to be banned from any territory administered by our nation. If an individual or organisation are found to possess either of the above then the government is permitted to confiscate and then dispose of the weapon, and the owner is subject to being sentened with imprisonment and an undetermined fine. If the government comes into possession of such a weapon or material, they are to dispose of it non-lethally within a period of one year.

To be added to queue.

The NPT is fine enough in theory, but in practice, it seems more like a tool for the US and Russia (especially the US & co.) to bend everyone else to their will. Though generally committed to a "strength through peace" approach to military affairs, I'm not so sure a nuke or two wouldn't be a valuable component of a safe, secure and independent Aurentina.

I wouldn't really mind ratifying the NPT. We can leave later if there is some extraordinary need to do so.

Lemanrussland wrote:I wouldn't really mind ratifying the NPT. We can leave later if there is some extraordinary need to do so.

Do you know how long it takes to make the necessary infrastructure to make Nukes?

A lot longer that you might think.

CTALNH wrote:

Lemanrussland wrote:I wouldn't really mind ratifying the NPT. We can leave later if there is some extraordinary need to do so.

Do you know how long it takes to make the necessary infrastructure to make Nukes?

A lot longer that you might think.

Most countries which are capable of developing nuclear reactors can easily develop nuclear weapons. The NPT doesn't bar the development of nuclear energy, for peaceful purposes.

Lemanrussland wrote:

CTALNH wrote:Do you know how long it takes to make the necessary infrastructure to make Nukes?

A lot longer that you might think.

Most countries which are capable of developing nuclear reactors can easily develop nuclear weapons. The NPT doesn't bar the development of nuclear energy, for peaceful purposes.

So we are not gonna test our weapons before using them?

CTALNH wrote:

Lemanrussland wrote:I wouldn't really mind ratifying the NPT. We can leave later if there is some extraordinary need to do so.

Do you know how long it takes to make the necessary infrastructure to make Nukes?

A lot longer that you might think.

Not having nukes would leave us at the whim of those nations that do? Im opposed to not having some form of WMD deterrent. Nations could use that fact as leverage to basically get anything they want from Aurentina.

Liberated Counties wrote:

CTALNH wrote:Do you know how long it takes to make the necessary infrastructure to make Nukes?

A lot longer that you might think.

Not having nukes would leave us at the whim of those nations that do? Im opposed to not having some form of WMD deterrent. Nations could use that fact as leverage to basically get anything they want from Aurentina.

Wait why are talking against me?

I want WMDs.

CTALNH wrote:

Liberated Counties wrote:
Not having nukes would leave us at the whim of those nations that do? Im opposed to not having some form of WMD deterrent. Nations could use that fact as leverage to basically get anything they want from Aurentina.

Wait why are talking against me?

I want WMDs.

Sorry, Senator. I only caught the end of the conversation. I thought you meant that constructing nuclear infrastructure would be too time consuming and therefore you opposed it.

Liberated Counties wrote:

CTALNH wrote:Wait why are talking against me?

I want WMDs.

Sorry, Senator. I only caught the end of the conversation. I thought you meant that constructing nuclear infrastructure would be too time consuming and therefore you opposed it.

I meant lets build them already because if we don't it gonna take a long ass time to construct a single nuclear power plant in the middle of a nuclear war.