Spanking Your Wife / Spousal Abuse

[Central Slavia]

Then that's what i'd do, both sides....
problem solved.

Also , there are a lot of things that warrant physical action yet their aren't crimes - SO cheating on you would be an example

Save it for BDSM play, Slavia... Unless you want the women in your life to commit you for being a potential serial killer.

Yeah, and potential rapist because i have instruments for it

[Dakini]

So she was asking for it?

Is she also asking for a trip down the stairs? Is she asking for a black eye? Is a random guy you have an argument with in a bar asking for your fist in his face? How is this any different?

Hitting someone out of anger is never acceptable, even if they're part of your family.

Notice the difference - sending someone down the stairs is dangerous to their life and health, and a black eye is generally overdoing it too.
A slap isn't

So is it ok for you to slap a stranger at a bar? Maybe you were having an argument with him and he insulted your mother.

Also, depending how hard you slap someone, you could injure them. Especially if you're wearing a ring on your hand.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Notice the difference - sending someone down the stairs is dangerous to their life and health, and a black eye is generally overdoing it too.
A slap isn't

Ah so beating women is ok in moderation? Wow that is a great idea.

And the cure of all our problems. After all, women are asking for it.

What a bunch of bullshit. I don't think I've ever come across someone who is actively trying to justify spousal abuse like CS is doing it.

[The Rich Port]

Yeah, and potential rapist because i have instruments for it

... Women can rape too, but sure.

[Central Slavia]

Notice the difference - sending someone down the stairs is dangerous to their life and health, and a black eye is generally overdoing it too.
A slap isn't

So is it ok for you to slap a stranger at a bar? Maybe you were having an argument with him and he insulted your mother.

It would not be completely OK but definitely not assault category thing.
Much more like a misdemeanor, since causing a fight in public is not exactly pro-social.

[Dakini]

So is it ok for you to slap a stranger at a bar? Maybe you were having an argument with him and he insulted your mother.

It would not be completely OK but definitely not assault category thing.
Much more like a misdemeanor, since causing a fight in public is not exactly pro-social.

But hitting your spouse is pro-social?

How about this: if you can't live with someone without hitting them, maybe you should live by yourself.

[Central Slavia]

Ah so beating women is ok in moderation? Wow that is a great idea.

And the cure of all our problems. After all, women are asking for it.

What a bunch of bullshit. I don't think I've ever come across someone who is actively trying to justify spousal abuse like CS is doing it.

Spousal abuse is something completely different - that's when such stuff happens daily and the person is actually injured

[Panzerjaeger]

It would not be completely OK but definitely not assault category thing.
Much more like a misdemeanor, since causing a fight in public is not exactly pro-social.

But hitting your spouse is pro-social?

How about this: if you can't live with someone without hitting them, maybe you should live by yourself.

Yeah he is teaching the bitch manners!

[Dakini]

And the cure of all our problems. After all, women are asking for it.

What a bunch of bullshit. I don't think I've ever come across someone who is actively trying to justify spousal abuse like CS is doing it.

Spousal abuse is something completely different - that's when such stuff happens daily and the person is actually injured

Abuse doesn't have to be physical.

[The Rich Port]

It would not be completely OK but definitely not assault category thing.
Much more like a misdemeanor, since causing a fight in public is not exactly pro-social.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the law.

[Panzerjaeger]

And the cure of all our problems. After all, women are asking for it.

What a bunch of bullshit. I don't think I've ever come across someone who is actively trying to justify spousal abuse like CS is doing it.

Spousal abuse is something completely different - that's when such stuff happens daily and the person is actually injured

So it isn't abuse unless it happens everyday? Brotip: Most domestics that eventually lead to Death didn't happen everyday either.

[Cosmopoles]

Then that's what i'd do, both sides....
problem solved.

Unless the guy is 6 foot 4 and built like a brick shithouse. Or there are ten of them.

Also , there are a lot of things that warrant physical action yet their aren't crimes - SO cheating on you would be an example

How does physical violence resolve that?

And seeing as you missed it - So? Having a piece of paper which says you are married changes the circumstances of the spanking? What if I forcibly spank my girlfriend of five years? Is that acceptable? Would it be not acceptable today, but after marrying her on Friday it would suddenly become acceptable on Saturday? What about very old friends? Can I spank my old college buddies? I'm closer to them than I am to some relatives. What if I marry a girl a day after meeting her? Can I spank her right away? I find it very unfair that I can spank someone I just met simply because we are married but there are people I have known for years that I can't spank because I'm not married to them.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And the cure of all our problems. After all, women are asking for it.

What a bunch of bullshit. I don't think I've ever come across someone who is actively trying to justify spousal abuse like CS is doing it.

Spousal abuse is something completely different - that's when such stuff happens daily and the person is actually injured

Abuse doesn't need to happen every day nor it has to be physical for it to be so. I don't think you know the difference.

[Vetalia]

So is it ok for you to slap a stranger at a bar? Maybe you were having an argument with him and he insulted your mother.

Also, depending how hard you slap someone, you could injure them. Especially if you're wearing a ring on your hand.

Generally, I've noticed slapping someone at the bar leads to you getting your ass handed to you...

[Ashmoria]

Why is it stupid? It is often so.

It is stupid because you are intent on justifying violence towards another. No matter how heated an argument gets, hitting your spouse is not ok and trying to say 'but he/she was asking for it' is one of the most stupid arguments I've ever seen pro-spousal abuse.

aye

if someone is actually involved with a woman who "asks for it" its best to walk away and find a sane women to have a relationship with.

[Central Slavia]

It would not be completely OK but definitely not assault category thing.
Much more like a misdemeanor, since causing a fight in public is not exactly pro-social.

But hitting your spouse is pro-social?

How about this: if you can't live with someone without hitting them, maybe you should live by yourself.

In fact, that's what i am doing and probably will do indefinitely.

But yes, it's better for everyone if the police resolves *actual crimes* instead of this.
To a person with a sense of proportion it is obvious the difference between behaviour that sometimes happens, and actual spousal abuse

[Dakini]

So is it ok for you to slap a stranger at a bar? Maybe you were having an argument with him and he insulted your mother.

Also, depending how hard you slap someone, you could injure them. Especially if you're wearing a ring on your hand.

Generally, I've noticed slapping someone at the bar leads to you getting your ass handed to you...

Depends. Maybe you decided to slap someone smaller and weaker than you.

[Panzerjaeger]

So is it ok for you to slap a stranger at a bar? Maybe you were having an argument with him and he insulted your mother.

Also, depending how hard you slap someone, you could injure them. Especially if you're wearing a ring on your hand.

Generally, I've noticed slapping someone at the bar leads to you getting your ass handed to you...

Unless it is a Drag Queen bar then you could lose your weave.

[The Rich Port]

It is stupid because you are intent on justifying violence towards another. No matter how heated an argument gets, hitting your spouse is not ok and trying to say 'but he/she was asking for it' is one of the most stupid arguments I've ever seen pro-spousal abuse.

aye

if someone is actually involved with a woman who "asks for it" its best to walk away and find a sane women to have a relationship with.

Actually... I'm all for hitting women... When they openly ask for it and they enjoy it, not when they "suggest it" or somehow insult my manhood or something.

I'm a BDSM practitioner, and there's nothing wrong with that... Srsly.

[Dakini]

But hitting your spouse is pro-social?

How about this: if you can't live with someone without hitting them, maybe you should live by yourself.

In fact, that's what i am doing and probably will do indefinitely.

But yes, it's better for everyone if the police resolves *actual crimes* instead of this.
To a person with a sense of proportion it is obvious the difference between behaviour that sometimes happens, and actual spousal abuse

Hitting someone (without their consent) is a crime, even if you live with them, even if you have sex with them, even if you have kids with them. Hitting a spouse (or a child, or a stranger or anyone) in anger isn't something that should be "behaviour that sometimes happens".

[Panzerjaeger]

But hitting your spouse is pro-social?

How about this: if you can't live with someone without hitting them, maybe you should live by yourself.

In fact, that's what i am doing and probably will do indefinitely.

But yes, it's better for everyone if the police resolves *actual crimes* instead of this.
To a person with a sense of proportion it is obvious the difference between behaviour that sometimes happens, and actual spousal abuse

Domestic Abuse isn't an actual crime? Wow.

[Arborlawn]

But then, what i'd do to him isn't a crime either....
1) you are putting in an asymmetry - saying that the law should care about what i do to him , but not what he does to me.

According to you, the crimes are asymmetrical. You stated that spankings are not a matter for the police - hence, self defence cannot be used as a justification for reacting with violence to a spanking, unless you attempt to spank him back.

2) i wasn't talking about interactions between strangers but insides of families.

So? Having a piece of paper which says you are married changes the circumstances of the spanking? What if I forcibly spank my girlfriend of five years? Is that acceptable? Would it be not acceptable today, but after marrying her on Friday it would suddenly become acceptable on Saturday? What about very old friends? Can I spank my old college buddies? I'm closer to them than I am to some relatives. What if I marry a girl a day after meeting her? Can I spank her right away? I find it very unfair that I can spank someone I just met simply because we are married but there are people I have known for years that I can't spank because I'm not married to them.

Then become a porn star and you can spank everybody!!

[The Rich Port]

In fact, that's what i am doing and probably will do indefinitely.

But yes, it's better for everyone if the police resolves *actual crimes* instead of this.
To a person with a sense of proportion it is obvious the difference between behaviour that sometimes happens, and actual spousal abuse

Domestic Abuse isn't an actual crime? Wow.

Hence why I said he has a fundamental misunderstanding of the law.

[Central Slavia]

Then that's what i'd do, both sides....
problem solved.

Unless the guy is 6 foot 4 and built like a brick shithouse. Or there are ten of them.

Then i'd be screwed badly no matter if there is a law or not covering it.

Also , there are a lot of things that warrant physical action yet their aren't crimes - SO cheating on you would be an example

How does physical violence resolve that?

As an immediate way to punish the involved?

And seeing as you missed it - So? Having a piece of paper which says you are married changes the circumstances of the spanking? What if I forcibly spank my girlfriend of five years? Is that acceptable? Would it be not acceptable today, but after marrying her on Friday it would suddenly become acceptable on Saturday? What about very old friends? Can I spank my old college buddies? I'm closer to them than I am to some relatives. What if I marry a girl a day after meeting her? Can I spank her right away? I find it very unfair that I can spank someone I just met simply because we are married but there are people I have known for years that I can't spank because I'm not married to them.

If the courts have no better work than to resolve who spanked who, and who said who was spanked, and proving the various claims, then the society you live in must be really low on crime. *sarcasm*

[Vetalia]

Depends. Maybe you decided to slap someone smaller and weaker than you.

A corollary of that is they often have much bigger friends to back them up. I'm a case in point; I'm not particularly strong (average at best), but I have friends that are much bigger and more than willing to fight on my side.

I'm also a regular, so people who try to start shit with me will be kicked out.