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Communism!A Dream or a Ideology?

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Communism
41
18%
Capitalism
82
37%
Socialism
50
22%
Fascism
12
5%
Monarchy
18
8%
My own Theory.(Please describe)
21
9%
 
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Communism!A Dream or a Ideology?

Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:39 am

You all have heard something about communism and you all have some kind of opinion on it so let's talk about it.
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Personally I am a hardcore Stalinist.

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"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:42 am

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Postby Tekcirb » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:43 am

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Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:43 am

Changed the title happy
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:44 am

Hmm you are gonna get banned for that but who cares
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"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:47 am

I still do not understand why communism is so popular.
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Postby Georgism » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:48 am

It's both a dream and an ideology.
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Postby Georgism » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:48 am

Simon Cowell of the RR wrote:I still do not understand why communism is so popular.

It's not, really.
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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:49 am

But it has no true application. So I guess it is just a dream that everyone works together happily, and in their free time holds hands and sings Kumbaya.
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Postby Georgism » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:50 am

Simon Cowell of the RR wrote:But it has no true application. So I guess it is just a dream that everyone works together happily, and in their free time holds hands and sings Kumbaya.

Depends what kind of Communist you are, surely? Anarcho-communists are a rare breed really.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:50 am

First: Communism is a dream on any scale larger than a few hundred people.

Second: A Stalinist? Hardcore communists have an excuse, because it's not like the USSR was actually communist, but Stalinism? Do you LIKE the idea of political purges, gulags, and corruption? That's like liking Nazi Germany.

Third: "Fuck you Stalinist"? Riding the express to Warning Windmill, kid (god I wish there was a better location name that started with w).
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:51 am

Well might be that communism isn't popular in your countries but in my country most of as have left tendencies.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
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Postby Georgism » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:52 am

Tubbsalot wrote:That's like liking Nazi Germany.

Plenty of people do.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:53 am

Simon Cowell of the RR wrote:But it has no true application. So I guess it is just a dream that everyone works together happily, and in their free time holds hands and sings Kumbaya.

Er, communism has just as much application as capitalism. They are in fact applied to the exact same thing. Communism essentially refers to common ownership of the means of production, rather than privately-controlled market-based corporations and such.

Georgism wrote:Plenty of people do.

True, but it's still crazy.
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:54 am

I must tell you that I am a Stalinist and yes I actually like the idea of purging the Right in gulags and and traitors to the state and every other lowlife
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
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Postby Jusela » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:55 am

CTALNH wrote:I must tell you that I am a Stalinist and yes I actually like the idea of purging the Right in gulags and and traitors to the state and every other lowlife


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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:55 am

In my opinion I have to say that true communism, as opposed to a centre-social government is hard to implement because what I learned in school is that natures seems to give the crave for power. Even in the people's congress, there would be a risk of a power struggle to the top.

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Postby Jusela » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:56 am

CTALNH wrote:I must tell you that I am a Stalinist and yes I actually like the idea of purging the Right in gulags and and traitors to the state and every other lowlife


Well, excuse me for double posting, but how do you define "traitors" and "lowlifes"? Seriously, I think you're suffering from a case of narcissism.

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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:56 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Simon Cowell of the RR wrote:But it has no true application. So I guess it is just a dream that everyone works together happily, and in their free time holds hands and sings Kumbaya.

Er, communism has just as much application as capitalism. They are in fact applied to the exact same thing. Communism essentially refers to common ownership of the means of production, rather than privately-controlled market-based corporations and such.

Georgism wrote:Plenty of people do.

True, but it's still crazy.

Except that capitalism worked for a couple more millenniums then Communism.
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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:57 am

Jusela wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I must tell you that I am a Stalinist and yes I actually like the idea of purging the Right in gulags and and traitors to the state and every other lowlife


Well, excuse me for double posting, but how do you define "traitors" and "lowlifes"? Seriously, I think you're suffering from a case of narcissism.

Duh. People that aren't just like me. Ergo, they aren't perfect.
Sorry for the double post.
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Postby Tekcirb » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:57 am

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Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:58 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:In my opinion I have to say that true communism, as opposed to a centre-social government is hard to implement because what I learned in school is that natures seems to give the crave for power. Even in the people's congress, there would be a risk of a power struggle to the top.

That's Why I am a Stalinist you make people like it were they want it or not at gunpoint of course.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
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Postby Jusela » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:58 am

CTALNH wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:In my opinion I have to say that true communism, as opposed to a centre-social government is hard to implement because what I learned in school is that natures seems to give the crave for power. Even in the people's congress, there would be a risk of a power struggle to the top.

That's Why I am a Stalinist you make people like it were they want it or not at gunpoint of course.


Your parents didn't love you enough, did they? :(

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Postby Georgism » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:00 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Georgism wrote:Plenty of people do.

True, but it's still crazy.

Depends what you're aiming for. If you want a 'greater Germany' full of Aryan ubermensch and you don't mind how this is created as long as it is then you'd have no problems with Nazi Germany.
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:00 am

Jusela wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I must tell you that I am a Stalinist and yes I actually like the idea of purging the Right in gulags and and traitors to the state and every other lowlife


Well, excuse me for double posting, but how do you define "traitors" and "lowlifes"? Seriously, I think you're suffering from a case of narcissism.

No I ain't I am not perfect because I am a human you know all humans make mistakes now about the traitors and lowlifes I think you know what I mean
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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