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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:34 pm
by Vandengaarde
Waldo followers wrote:
Serrland wrote:
A good chunk might have been Irishmen, the same ones that were more or less forced or coerced into enlisting as soon as they got off the boats.

many also joined the US army so they would get expeirence so they could rebel against Britian

I'm pretty sure they didn't, since they probably couldn't afford to.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:34 pm
by Mad hatters in jeans
I know technically it's not a conflict but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia
pretty important event nonetheless in Europe.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:37 pm
by Hegstoria
Vandengaarde wrote:
Waldo followers wrote:many also joined the US army so they would get expeirence so they could rebel against Britian

I'm pretty sure they didn't, since they probably couldn't afford to.

Most Irishman in the Union army were fooled into enlisting. The army would set up recruitment tables on the docks and fool the immigrants into thinking it was mandatory, I'm sure some used the experience to rebel against the Brits, but it wasn't a major reason for Irish in the Union army.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:40 pm
by Vandengaarde
Hegstoria wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I'm pretty sure they didn't, since they probably couldn't afford to.

Most Irishman in the Union army were fooled into enlisting. The army would set up recruitment tables on the docks and fool the immigrants into thinking it was mandatory, I'm sure some used the experience to rebel against the Brits, but it wasn't a major reason for Irish in the Union army.

And a lot of the American-born Irishmen refused to serve, even though there were conscriptions. How odd.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:40 pm
by Kulaloe
Daistallia 2104 wrote:If Britain hadn't been fighting France, they'd not have been impressing US British immigrant draft dodging sailors.

Exactly, in addition to the fact that Canada would have been easier to defend if the British weren't distracted.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:42 pm
by SaintB
Kansas Border War

The Ohio/Michigan War

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:42 pm
by Bafuria
The Cod Wars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_war

It wasn't really a war though, only 1 KIA.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:43 pm
by Hegstoria
Vandengaarde wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:Most Irishman in the Union army were fooled into enlisting. The army would set up recruitment tables on the docks and fool the immigrants into thinking it was mandatory, I'm sure some used the experience to rebel against the Brits, but it wasn't a major reason for Irish in the Union army.

And a lot of the American-born Irishmen refused to serve, even though there were conscriptions. How odd.

Yeah, in fact there was a rebellion in New York city because of the draft. It was mostly due to the fact that only the poor were being drafted, while the wealthy could just buy their way out of the draft. If you've seen the film Gangs of New York, that was a secondary story in it.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:44 pm
by Waldo followers

Cod wars?
sounds like a show on the discovery channel

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:44 pm
by Hegstoria
Kulaloe wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:If Britain hadn't been fighting France, they'd not have been impressing US British immigrant draft dodging sailors.

Exactly, in addition to the fact that Canada would have been easier to defend if the British weren't distracted.

Thats a tall claim, do you have any proof whatsoever that they were draft dodging sailors, or is this just some biased BS you think is true but have no supporting evidence for?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:45 pm
by Hegstoria
Waldo followers wrote:

Cod wars?
sounds like a show on the discovery channel

:lol:
If there was room in my sig, I would totally sig that.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:46 pm
by Saurisia

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:49 pm
by Waldo followers

thats not frogotten
that was a major slavery vs free event before the civil war

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:07 pm
by Kulaloe
Hegstoria wrote:
Kulaloe wrote:Exactly, in addition to the fact that Canada would have been easier to defend if the British weren't distracted.

Thats a tall claim, do you have any proof whatsoever that they were draft dodging sailors, or is this just some biased BS you think is true but have no supporting evidence for?

Not all of them were draft dodgers, but the majority of the impressed sailors were British expatriots. The fact that they had become American citizens gave the US credibility. I cite eleventh grade history class from a Bulgarian history teacher. Apparently the Bulgarians have the world's best history ciriculum. There were a small number of born Americans impressed, but they were a smaller group than the British borns. The point I'm making is, however, that the war wouldn't have happened if the British weren't fighting the French.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:08 pm
by Saurisia
Waldo followers wrote:

thats not frogotten
that was a major slavery vs free event before the civil war


True, true...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:20 pm
by Hegstoria
Kulaloe wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:Thats a tall claim, do you have any proof whatsoever that they were draft dodging sailors, or is this just some biased BS you think is true but have no supporting evidence for?

Not all of them were draft dodgers, but the majority of the impressed sailors were British expatriots. The fact that they had become American citizens gave the US credibility. I cite eleventh grade history class from a Bulgarian history teacher. Apparently the Bulgarians have the world's best history ciriculum. There were a small number of born Americans impressed, but they were a smaller group than the British borns. The point I'm making is, however, that the war wouldn't have happened if the British weren't fighting the French.

So the British were impressing U.S. citizens working for U.S. trading companies? Well then, I'd say the U.S. was justified.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:43 pm
by Daistallia 2104
Vandengaarde wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:


Moi. :)

...why?


Why have I heard of the Dakota War? :blink:

I know my history, I guess.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:44 pm
by Vandengaarde
Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:...why?


Why have I heard of the Dakota War? :blink:

I know my history, I guess.

But have you heard of the soccer war?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:46 pm
by Waldo followers
Vandengaarde wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Why have I heard of the Dakota War? :blink:

I know my history, I guess.

But have you heard of the soccer war?

yea it's a riot that takes place once every world cup
im serious im pretty sure there's been some sort of riot of big fight breaking out at the world cup

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:47 pm
by Serrland
The Utah War, too.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:47 pm
by Serrland
Vandengaarde wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Why have I heard of the Dakota War? :blink:

I know my history, I guess.

But have you heard of the soccer war?


Only vaguely...El Salvador and Guatemala or maybe Nicaragua?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:49 pm
by Waldo followers
Serrland wrote:The Utah War, too.

do you mean the mormon war?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:49 pm
by Serrland
Waldo followers wrote:
Serrland wrote:The Utah War, too.

do you mean the mormon war?


Same thing, innit? Although there might be another one, the one I'm thinking of was from 1857-58

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:52 pm
by Saurisia
What about the Cromwellian Conquest of Ireland or the Anglo-Dutch Wars, aren't those forgotten?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:53 pm
by Galactic Germany
They American invasion of Siberia