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South Sharfghotten
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How can you support pedophilia?

Postby South Sharfghotten » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:14 pm

I am under the impression that certain members of this board support pedophilia- that is, the act of an adult engaging in sexual contact with a minor. How can you justify this? It is a selfish and sickening practice that not only ruins the lives of children directly affected, but also affects the quality of life of all other children when reactionary parents impose restrictions upon their children.

In my opinion anyone who supports this practice is a revisionist collaborator and requires removal from society lest they harm an innocent child.

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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:16 pm

If the child in question is both able to give consent and willing to do so, then I see nothing wrong with it.
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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:16 pm

No, paedophillia is the attraction not the act.

And as a child I happened to be a 'victim' when I was 12, but I bloody well got off on it dammit!
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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:17 pm

itt new Karsol

also all pedos should be lined up against a partyvan and shot like the statist stooges they are
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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:18 pm

Satirius wrote:itt new Karsol

also all pedos should be lined up against a partyvan and shot like the statist stooges they are


Try it, bitch.

Attraction doesn't necessarily lead to action.

Child molestation is disgusting. If the child is willing I would have less qualms about it, but I would never engage in the act myself.
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"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:19 pm

Paedophilia = Pre-pubescent children.

Ephebophilia = Post-pubescent children

The former is creepy, the latter is awesome.

Thusly, no I don't support paedophilia.
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Postby Bei Song » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:20 pm

Pedophilia is not inherently wrong, but acting on it is.
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:29 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Bei Song wrote:Pedophilia is not inherently wrong, but acting on it is.

Paedophilia is inherently wrong, it must be understood by paedophiles that they have an abhorrent fetish and a malcondition that they must suppress. It should not be acceptable, nor should we tolerate the presence of those whom seek to make it acceptable.


*que paedo- showing up and going "no" while raping raging*
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Postby Risottia » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:31 pm

South Sharfghotten wrote:I am under the impression that certain members of this board support pedophilia- that is, the act of an adult engaging in sexual contact with a minor.

That is not the definition of pedophilia, to be accurate.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia: that is, a pedophiliac is aroused by the idea of having sex with a minor.
The "act of an adult engaging in sexual contact with a minor" is called "child sexual abuse".
See the wiki.
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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:31 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Bei Song wrote:Pedophilia is not inherently wrong, but acting on it is.

Paedophilia is inherently wrong, it must be understood by paedophiles that they have an abhorrent fetish and a malcondition that they must suppress. It should not be acceptable pub, nor should we tolerate the presence of those whom seek to make it publicly acceptable.


Meh, it's easily tamed with legal Japanese shota/loli anime

It's not as if all paedophiles are all hormone driven raping machines.
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:31 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:those whom seek


I distinctly remember telling you, nigh-on a year ago, to stop using "whom" if you don't know how to do it correctly :<

With regard to the rest of the post: people can feel however they damn well please, and you are in no place to tell them otherwise.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:33 pm

If the kid is able to give consent and willing, fine.
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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:33 pm

New Kereptica wrote: people can feel however they damn well please, and you are in no place to tell them otherwise.

I feel that every Generalite should be gassed

You cannot tell me otherwise
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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:34 pm

Risottia wrote:
South Sharfghotten wrote:I am under the impression that certain members of this board support pedophilia- that is, the act of an adult engaging in sexual contact with a minor.

That is not the definition of pedophilia, to be accurate.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia: that is, a pedophiliac is aroused by the idea of having sex with a minor.
The "act of an adult engaging in sexual contact with a minor" is called "child sexual abuse".
See the wiki.

In my opinion the word abuse is misused, in my experiences as a child I was never once torn, excessively beaten, sexually tortured or raped.

Maybe Irresponsible contact with a minor should be used instead. (only in non violent/harmful sexual situations.) :)
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ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
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Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:34 pm

Satirius wrote:
New Kereptica wrote: people can feel however they damn well please, and you are in no place to tell them otherwise.

I feel that every Generalite should be gassed

You cannot tell me otherwise

The Mods say different. :p

As you are not allowed to express such feelings.
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ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:35 pm

Satirius wrote:I feel that every Generalite should be gassed

You cannot tell me otherwise


Indeed, for me to tell you that you don't feel that would be a rather stupid position to take.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:36 pm

New Kereptica wrote:If the child in question is both able to give consent and willing to do so, then I see nothing wrong with it.


'able' seems to be the sticking point here. When children should be able to give consent is a difficult thing to quantify. Personally, I think considering the ease with which children can be coerced by perceptions of adult authority, I have to say that I agree with arbitrary age restrictions on legal ability to consent.
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Postby Bei Song » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:37 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:Paedophilia is inherently wrong, it must be understood by paedophiles that they have an abhorrent fetish and a malcondition that they must suppress. It should not be acceptable, nor should we tolerate the presence of those whom seek to make it acceptable.


*que paedo- showing up and going "no" while raping raging*


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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:37 pm

Satirius wrote:
New Kereptica wrote: people can feel however they damn well please, and you are in no place to tell them otherwise.

I feel that every Generalite should be gassed

You cannot tell me otherwise


Why do you think I hand out so many tacos? :D
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:38 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:'able' seems to be the sticking point here. When children should be able to give consent is a difficult thing to quantify. Personally, I think considering the ease with which children can be coerced by perceptions of adult authority, I have to say that I agree with arbitrary age restrictions on legal ability to consent.


Quite right.
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Postby Icemany » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:38 pm

Imo there is absolutely nothing wrong with paedophilia in itself... I believe it to be a sexual orientation and the paedophiles cant help it. The issue is how this sexuality is carried out. If the child gives consent then I do not see any reason for this to be a crime. If the child does not consent then it should be classed as rape and punished.
We should be punishing the act not the orientation.

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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:38 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:
Meh, it's easily tamed with legal Japanese shota/loli anime

It's not as if all paedophiles are all hormone driven raping machines.


They should hence keep to themselves and hide their perversions from contemporary society. They need to know it is wrong.

It's hard to accept that when you enjoyed sexual attention from an adult yourself. :eyebrow:
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Postby Qenlia » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:39 pm

People need to differ between pedophiles (people who have an attraction to children) and childabusers, you can be the former without being the latter, hell, you can even be the latter without being the former (certain sadists for example).

As long as an pedophile keeps their hands of kids they should receive help and support, because god knows that's an fucked up and hard preference to have, not to mention that most pedophiles are victims of abuse them selves.
I think society's hysteria when it comes to pedo feelings is counter productive, it stops these ppl from seeking help/coming forward which makes it dangerous.
I would really appreciate it if i have someone in my surrounding telling me, hey, i have this fucked up thing, please believe me that I don't want to act upon these feelings but please don't let me babysit your kids.

More research should be done about this but I also think that the outlawing of fictional/virtual underage porn (stories, animation, cgi) is an bad idea. Like rape stories etc its something repulsive but I think its more of an release preventing actual abuse than an gateway into abuse like others claim.

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Postby Norstal » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:39 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Satirius wrote:I feel that every Generalite should be gassed

You cannot tell me otherwise


Why do you think I hand out so many tacos? :D

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Postby Kari-Kazzir » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:41 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Paedophilia is reprehensible in every possible way.

However the term is frequently misused to refer to those under the age of consent rather then pre-pubescent children.

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