Genderless Baby

[Grave_n_idle]

Dr. Josef Mengele would be proud of these two...

If you can think of something worth listening to, drop me a line.

This kind of stupidity gets boring really fast.

[SaintB]

Because apparently the majority of people think its a dumb idea.

And that would be because it is.
Kids going to get his ass kicked when he gets to school.

It is stupid. And I hope so.

Whats stupid is people's knee jerk wishing violence upon the child for no reason other than they dislike the parents reaction.

[BunnySaurus Bugsii]

Because apparently the majority of people think its a dumb idea.

And that would be because it is.
Kids going to get his ass kicked when he gets to school.

It is stupid. And I hope so.

You hope that a small kid gets bullied at school?

That's charming.

[The Scandinvans]

It is quite apparent, that since gender identity is a proven psychology concept this 'experiment' is flawed and performed by delusional.

Thus this earns the fucked up experiment of the week award.

[Parthenon]

Dr. Josef Mengele would be proud of these two...

If you can think of something worth listening to, drop me a line.

This kind of stupidity gets boring really fast.

Give it up pal, he performed experiments on children without informed consent, just like these two "parents" are doing. He would have hung at Nuremberg for the experiments if he didn't manage to flea to Argentina, the same should be done with these two. It is morally reprehensible and downright repulsive to experiment with children, especially ones that can't even speak yet.

[The P]

I'm overwhelmed with fascination upon hearing these news. I do hope we'll hear further reports about this child as they grow up, so that we can learn whether raising a child without any (IMO) unnecessary social concepts such as gender is simple or complicated a task.

[Happy Shining Democracy]

Give it up pal, he performed experiments on children without informed consent, just like these two "parents" are doing. He would have hung at Nuremberg for the experiments if he didn't manage to flea to Argentina, the same should be done with these two. It is morally reprehensible and downright repulsive to experiment with children, especially ones that can't even speak yet.

Yep. This is just pure bullshit what they are doing.

[Grave_n_idle]

Dr. Josef Mengele would be proud of these two...

If you can think of something worth listening to, drop me a line.

This kind of stupidity gets boring really fast.

Give it up pal, he performed experiments on children without informed consent, just like these two "parents" are doing. He would have hung at Nuremberg for the experiments if he didn't manage to flea to Argentina, the same should be done with these two. It is morally reprehensible and downright repulsive to experiment with children, especially ones that can't even speak yet.

These two parents are letting their child pick it's own outfits, giving it choices, and not enforcing the toys or rituals of one gender onto it.

To even try to compare it to Mengele is to stretch reality beyond sublime and into ridiculous.


I have to assume you've no children of your own.

[Happy Shining Democracy]

It is quite apparent, that since gender identity is a proven psychology concept this 'experiment' is flawed and performed by delusional.

Thus this earns the fucked up experiment of the week award.

This.

[Grave_n_idle]

I'm overwhelmed with fascination upon hearing these news. I do hope we'll hear further reports about this child as they grow up, so that we can learn whether raising a child without any (IMO) unnecessary social concepts such as gender is simple or complicated a task.

I'd imagine this question will be largely resolved at the pre-school or early school transition, when the child will pick the gender roles it wants to conform to, if it hasn't already.

[Grave_n_idle]

It is quite apparent, that since gender identity is a proven psychology concept this 'experiment' is flawed and performed by delusional.

Thus this earns the fucked up experiment of the week award.

I'm waiting for the sources for your claims.

[Conserative Morality]

I'd imagine this question will be largely resolved at the pre-school or early school transition, when the child will pick the gender roles it wants to conform to, if it hasn't already.

Aye. Unless these people plan on homeschooling the child.

[BunnySaurus Bugsii]

Dr. Josef Mengele would be proud of these two...

If you can think of something worth listening to, drop me a line.

This kind of stupidity gets boring really fast.

Yeah it does. The exact same accusation could be extended to teaching kids ANYTHING the parent wasn't taught themselves as a child. It's a recipe for a completely static society.

We shouldn't let kids have mobile phones. Or computers. Nobody knows how it will affect their developement so ... it's all a dangerous experiment!

[Happy Shining Democracy]

These two parents are letting their child pick it's own outfits, giving it choices, and not enforcing the toys or rituals of one gender onto it.

To even try to compare it to Mengele is to stretch reality beyond sublime and into ridiculous.


I have to assume you've no children of your own.

No, they're not giving the child a choice, they are at their own will dressing the child in whatever they feel like whether they be womens clothes or mens to prove a fucking point.

[Grave_n_idle]

I'd imagine this question will be largely resolved at the pre-school or early school transition, when the child will pick the gender roles it wants to conform to, if it hasn't already.

Aye. Unless these people plan on homeschooling the child.

Even if they homeschool, a 4-5 year old child is making decisions about identity, and it is likely that - if it hasn't happened already - this is the stage when most of the identity will become comcrete.

[Grave_n_idle]

These two parents are letting their child pick it's own outfits, giving it choices, and not enforcing the toys or rituals of one gender onto it.

To even try to compare it to Mengele is to stretch reality beyond sublime and into ridiculous.


I have to assume you've no children of your own.

No, they're not giving the child a choice, they are at their own will dressing the child in whatever they feel like whether they be womens clothes or mens to prove a fucking point.

Didn't even read that short little article, huh?

[BunnySaurus Bugsii]

It is quite apparent, that since gender identity is a proven psychology concept this 'experiment' is flawed and performed by delusional.

Thus this earns the fucked up experiment of the week award.

This.

Scandinvans can speak for themselves, but don't you dare applaud any of my posts. I will be very rude to you if you do, because the support of someone who thinks small children deserve to be bullied in school isn't worth a pinch of shit.

[Conserative Morality]

Even if they homeschool, a 4-5 year old child is making decisions about identity, and it is likely that - if it hasn't happened already - this is the stage when most of the identity will become comcrete.

True, just saying that the child might not be going to preschool.

[Grave_n_idle]

It is quite apparent, that since gender identity is a proven psychology concept this 'experiment' is flawed and performed by delusional.

Thus this earns the fucked up experiment of the week award.

This.

Scandinvans can speak for themselves, but don't you dare applaud any of my posts. I will be very rude to you if you do, because the support of someone who thinks small children deserve to be bullied in school isn't worth a pinch of shit.

In the defence of Happy Shining Democracy, I have to tell you you're wrong.

You say his/her support isn't worth a pinch of shit, and I'm here to tell you it is.

[SaintB]

Dr. Josef Mengele would be proud of these two...

If you can think of something worth listening to, drop me a line.

This kind of stupidity gets boring really fast.

Give it up pal, he performed experiments on children without informed consent, just like these two "parents" are doing. He would have hung at Nuremberg for the experiments if he didn't manage to flea to Argentina, the same should be done with these two. It is morally reprehensible and downright repulsive to experiment with children, especially ones that can't even speak yet.

Right... so because they are giving their child choices and treating them as a person rather than a gender is that damaging to someone's psych? I think perhaps you should get your own psych examined.

[Grave_n_idle]

Even if they homeschool, a 4-5 year old child is making decisions about identity, and it is likely that - if it hasn't happened already - this is the stage when most of the identity will become comcrete.

True, just saying that the child might not be going to preschool.

True this - I find myself wondering about other elements not covered, though... does this child have no playmates? No relations of near age?

It seems unlikely that the situation is quite so... clinical.. as suggested.

[Parthenon]

If you can think of something worth listening to, drop me a line.

This kind of stupidity gets boring really fast.

Give it up pal, he performed experiments on children without informed consent, just like these two "parents" are doing. He would have hung at Nuremberg for the experiments if he didn't manage to flea to Argentina, the same should be done with these two. It is morally reprehensible and downright repulsive to experiment with children, especially ones that can't even speak yet.

These two parents are letting their child pick it's own outfits, giving it choices, and not enforcing the toys or rituals of one gender onto it.

To even try to compare it to Mengele is to stretch reality beyond sublime and into ridiculous.


I have to assume you've no children of your own.

No, I don't have any children. However, if I did I wouldn't subject them to experiments just for my own damn amusement. The fact that you are willing to defend experimenting on a child's psychological development is just downright despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself. If this nonsensical experiment is still going on when I finish my J.D. in two years I will be sure to remember to file suit against these parents in the International Court of Justice for a human rights violation.

[The Naacal]

The whole social aspect of gender identity is interesting from a scientific perspective, but gender identity also becomes physiological and biochemical later on. If the child's "chosen" gender role is different from his/her physiological gender, they could be in for some serious problems.

[Der Teutoniker]

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Good, this should help reinforce that there is a gender difference, independant from stereotypes.

But, that we find similar differences in nature should show us that likely, humans also have distinct gender differences.

No, I'm not saying that the "preset molds" are the categories everyone needs to fall in, but there are general traits for each gender.

[Dominic Safabian]

You're going to take a guy who has a pedobear avatar seriously about gender roles and children?