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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:45 pm
by West Leas Oros 2
Greater Cesnica wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I remember the short-lived Alt-Right Discussion Thread. Or at least I think that’s what it was called.

Found it: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=395073

Ayn Rand being in the sentence as Julius Evola is hilarious on so many levels...

Ahh, good times.

Also, Rand and Evola in the same sentence? Did they predict JREG’s rise?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:48 pm
by Greater Cesnica
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Found it: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=395073

Ayn Rand being in the sentence as Julius Evola is hilarious on so many levels...

Ahh, good times.

Also, Rand and Evola in the same sentence? Did they predict JREG’s rise?

Imagine if Evola was resurrected and read his name next to that of a woman. :p

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:00 pm
by The Blaatschapen
Greater Cesnica wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I remember the short-lived Alt-Right Discussion Thread. Or at least I think that’s what it was called.

Found it: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=395073

Ayn Rand being in the sentence as Julius Evola is hilarious on so many levels...




Ooooh, something I killed.

With the suggestion to go somewhere that got killed later on. Yikes :meh:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:01 pm
by West Leas Oros 2
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Found it: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=395073

Ayn Rand being in the sentence as Julius Evola is hilarious on so many levels...




Ooooh, something I killed.

With the suggestion to go somewhere that got killed later on. Yikes :meh:

I forget you used to be a mod. Then again, I forget that I used to be an idiot. Well, “used to be” is debatable.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:29 pm
by Forsher
Hmm...

The Paedophilia scandals... scandal?... honestly I can't remember how many there were but it was a real mess. I feel like there were two posters or two nations because I very clearly remember certain players yelling at the mods for not deleting a nation they knew was a particular player that they hadn't reported. I'm underselling but this was HUGE... there was a recent kerfuffle but I can't even remember what that was about whereas it's only the details that I don't recall here.

The "mods read TGs" scandal which was... ridiculous. The major cause in the mass exodus from the forum of Neo Art and his cronies.

NSG Culture and the Rules... a massive thread that provided ample evidence of players not reporting players they like which somehow became "the mods are the problem" thread. One of the key reasons why we have the R/D/Q system in Moderation to this day.

Karinzistan's one man war on the forum. This was annoying but, seriously, don't bully people.

The Silver Medal Affair. Again, don't bully people. Thanks a lot... I feel like if I use the noun I want to I'll get dinged for trolling. The facepalm was one of the emoticons I use!

Four Sided Triangles... what happens if a guy figures out how to get around the DOS system basically perfectly? Apparently he makes a bunch of weird anti-sex threads and seemingly everyone just has to be in them. Oh, and then he gets DEAT'd for trolling Christians, is discovered to be a DOS'd player called (iirc) Unhealthy Truthseeker and comes back again as CVT Temp, before getting caught (as far as I know, permanently).

Any Xerographica thread but, in particular, the threadjack idiocy. You, I and everyone we know, knows Xero's threads are about one thing and one thing only. Warning people for talking about that was and remains stupid. Warning people for threadjacking when they talked about the topic the thread was superficially about was particularly egregious but not one of those warnings was deserved.

The first What Do You Look Like and, especially, the first Eternal Thread. Never used the forum and irregularly use the various editions of the Eternal Thread but they were major features of NSG for years so they should get a look in here. I maintain that page 5000 TET is the best TET (back in the day there was apparently no thread page limit).

The creation, heyday and banning of the RWDT. Similar to the above but with the addition of a whole bunch of copy cat threads and the gradual takeover of NSG by megathreads (an era which has now ended).

The Trollnaming announcement. Again, should've been a non-starter but somehow became a whole Thing.

And then there's one other incident that springs to mind but in hindsight, it was really only limited to those of us who posted in a certain genre of thread so I neglect to mention it. But don't defame people online.

EDIT: also, 1000 Cats' deletion. Kind of not related to NSG directly, I suppose.

Also, -Ebola-. the emergence of IM's brand/style of thread and the radicalisation or whatever the hell exactly happened with Parkus... but they're more processes than events.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:35 pm
by Bombadil
When the forum was split into Liberal and Conservative was particularly fun resulting in a long Haiku battle.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:47 pm
by Forsher
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The sad passing of the facepalm smiley, gone to join the fluffle in heaven.


And now we're forced to slum it with sarcastic clapping, eyerolls and, of course, :rofl: :evil:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:*sad face*


Let me describe it as this. Imagine you posted to me but your post didn’t appear in thread until two hours later.


Ah, this just reminded me of basically two completely unrelated things. Firstly, that weird time of day where the search function ceases to work properly on this version of the forums. Secondly, that time where a massive gameside update meant a privileged few were logged in and were the only ones who could log in for hours. I think that's happened a few times but I feel like there was a major thread at the time... I think the nation who made it started with M. Hmm... might have to look at the most recent posters you remember thread...

Purpelia wrote:There was that one time that guy called 1000 Cats got banned for openly promoting sex with animals. That was different.


Strictly speaking he got banned for not shutting up when protesting the deletion of a zoophilia themed region.

A rare example of [violet] directly telling the mods what to do.

Also, but was kind of a moderation thing, that time [violet] got warned.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:57 pm
by Ethel mermania
Forsher wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The sad passing of the facepalm smiley, gone to join the fluffle in heaven.


And now we're forced to slum it with sarcastic clapping, eyerolls and, of course, :rofl: :evil:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Let me describe it as this. Imagine you posted to me but your post didn’t appear in thread until two hours later.


Ah, this just reminded me of basically two completely unrelated things. Firstly, that weird time of day where the search function ceases to work properly on this version of the forums. Secondly, that time where a massive gameside update meant a privileged few were logged in and were the only ones who could log in for hours. I think that's happened a few times but I feel like there was a major thread at the time... I think the nation who made it started with M. Hmm... might have to look at the most recent posters you remember thread...

Purpelia wrote:There was that one time that guy called 1000 Cats got banned for openly promoting sex with animals. That was different.


Strictly speaking he got banned for not shutting up when protesting the deletion of a zoophilia themed region.

A rare example of [violet] directly telling the mods what to do.

Also, but was kind of a moderation thing, that time [violet] got warned.


I think that was more for amusement than anything else.

The best thing that Blaatshapen did as moderator, was adopt a sheep and named it Violet

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:09 pm
by Free China
One of the significant events we had was the Union of Confederate Regions Incident? :blink: Overall, I'm quite surprised that this little forum, managed to save someone's life! :bow:

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:11 am
by The Blaatschapen
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=152919

The history thread of NS GP focuses obviously on Gameplay, but there noticeable events are also described. And quite a few meh ones as well, trivial stuff. But worth a look nonetheless.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:13 am
by Purpelia
Forsher wrote:
Purpelia wrote:There was that one time that guy called 1000 Cats got banned for openly promoting sex with animals. That was different.


Strictly speaking he got banned for not shutting up when protesting the deletion of a zoophilia themed region.

A rare example of [violet] directly telling the mods what to do.

The sad part is I almost miss him. He was such a breath of utter insanity that he epitomized the internet.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:16 am
by Washington Resistance Army
In recent times probably the deletion of the RWDT/LWDT. It both pissed a lot of people and tanked discussion quality even more.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:23 am
by Valentine Z
Quite a handful of threads from Xero (or was it Xeno?)... Xerographica, regarding DV - Donation Voting.

Same song, different dance, as the expression might have went. The thread's OP changed a little, but all ultimately went back to DV'ing. All of them got locked after a lot of back-and-forth.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:31 am
by The New California Republic
Washington Resistance Army wrote:In recent times probably the deletion of the RWDT/LWDT. It both pissed a lot of people and tanked discussion quality even more.

I have the dubious honor of being the OP of the last ever LWDT, but since the behind-the-scenes discussions in the Mod Cave regarding closing them had been taking place for months beforehand, then I don't think the last one did anything to affect the decision.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:33 am
by Baloo Kingdom
Welp, reading this thread has satisfied my craving for NationStates History. It is interesting what we all remember when looking back on the past. Rather interesting indeed.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:38 am
by The Huskar Social Union
I remember a guy back in the early days i was on here (around 2012-14 i think) who outed himself as a paedophile and got deleted and i think the police were contacted about it. But it caused a lot of controversy over how long it took to get him deleted i think. That was something.

Then the mega threads being shut down this year.

The erotica role play massacre were a ton of people got deleted or banned in 2016 i think?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:58 am
by Valentine Z
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I remember a guy back in the early days i was on here (around 2012-14 i think) who outed himself as a paedophile and got deleted and i think the police were contacted about it. But it caused a lot of controversy over how long it took to get him deleted i think. That was something.

Then the mega threads being shut down this year.

The erotica role play massacre were a ton of people got deleted or banned in 2016 i think?

There's also one that happened in 2020's Gen Sec Election thing (it was an April Fools thing), which was... I think that might have reinforced [v]'s stance on not allowing images from Discord. I was "blessed" with looking at those images before they got deleted and they have Discord links, so yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:59 am
by Twicetagram and JYPe
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Welp, reading this thread has satisfied my craving for NationStates History. It is interesting what we all remember when looking back on the past. Rather interesting indeed.

^^ this

it's cool how our views may differ, we can still get together and lend a hand :hug:

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:01 am
by Baloo Kingdom
Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Welp, reading this thread has satisfied my craving for NationStates History. It is interesting what we all remember when looking back on the past. Rather interesting indeed.

^^ this

it's cool how our views may differ, we can still get together and lend a hand :hug:

Indeed

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:06 am
by The New California Republic
Valentine Z wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I remember a guy back in the early days i was on here (around 2012-14 i think) who outed himself as a paedophile and got deleted and i think the police were contacted about it. But it caused a lot of controversy over how long it took to get him deleted i think. That was something.

Then the mega threads being shut down this year.

The erotica role play massacre were a ton of people got deleted or banned in 2016 i think?

There's also one that happened in 2020's Gen Sec Election thing (it was an April Fools thing), which was... I think that might have reinforced [v]'s stance on not allowing images from Discord. I was "blessed" with looking at those images before they got deleted and they have Discord links, so yeah!

There was also someone last year(?), a regular on the forums and fairly well-known, that I assume was declared DOS after previously unseen RMB posts from several years ago emerged that revealed that the person admitted doing something really bad several years ago. Their name escapes me, but it's just as well, as I'd rather not be pressed on the specifics.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:07 am
by Aikoland
I have this weird tendency to remember DOS users. Like does anyone else remember that potato spammer dude back in like 2013-2014-ish? Or that one user, who had a bunch of puppet accounts, who was obsessed with the movie Frozen and would threadjack discussions to be centred around the movie.

I mostly remember the latter use because, when they were made DOS, the mod that posted their DOS order ended the post with something like 'YOU ARE HEREBY PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM NATIONSTATES.NET. ALL YOUR EXISTING ACCOUNTS WILL BE DELETED AND ANY FUTURE ACCOUNTS TERMINATED WITHOUT WARNING. DO NOT COME BACK.' and the DOS user managed to get one last post in basically begging them to not do this because they were innocent. And they also kept trying to sneak back in but it was always super obvious it was them because they had a super distinctive posting style (IIRC it was like short sentences a lot? Like 'I do not agree with this. These people should obey the law. It is not right for them to do this. It is disruptive') and they would always do identical threads whenever they rejoined (like it wasn't NSG, but they would make embassy threads in F&NI that were always copy-pasted from each other and would join the same RP organisation).

Also not NSG related but remember when the original operator of the NS++ extension got DEAT'd (and maybe DOS as well?) for threatening to use his TOTALLY 100% LEGAL* bruteforce password cracker against a region because of IDK regional/Security Council drama.

*It was not TOTALLY 100% LEGAL, it was in fact TOTALLY 0% LEGAL.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:08 am
by Nobel Hobos 2
Bombadil wrote:When the forum was split into Liberal and Conservative was particularly fun resulting in a long Haiku battle.


I remember Haiku Fighting, not sure if that's what you mean? Funniest and best haiku were from some Australian guy, not me sadly.

Lunatic Goofballs was involved. It might even have been his haiku that rapped off "Kung-Fu Fighting" and gave the thread it's name.

I told the mods not to make LG a Mod. "Don't put that burden on him, you'll kill the funny" I said. But you can't tell Mods anything.

The Liberal and Conservative Zones were an April Fool's joke by the mods. Once everyone started posting in both the joke was worn out and somehow they merged the forums again. But I wonder if the joke inspired the LWDT and RWDT's?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:09 am
by Ghost Land
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I remember a guy back in the early days i was on here (around 2012-14 i think) who outed himself as a paedophile and got deleted and i think the police were contacted about it. But it caused a lot of controversy over how long it took to get him deleted i think. That was something.

Then the mega threads being shut down this year.

The erotica role play massacre were a ton of people got deleted or banned in 2016 i think?

For the first one, you're thinking of The Zeonic States, DoS'd in July 2013.

The last one has already been mentioned under its nickname of the "May Massacre", as it took place on 1 May 2016.

I'll also give a shoutout to Forsher for his great post; he's of the same generation of NS users I am so we remember a lot of the same things from what n00bs (anyone who joined 2015 or newer :p) consider "back in the olden days".
Forsher wrote:-snip-

Also, -Ebola-. the emergence of IM's brand/style of thread and the radicalisation or whatever the hell exactly happened with Parkus... but they're more processes than events.

The Parkus Empire was well-liked in his original tenure on the forum from 2005 to 2013. Having rage-quit in October 2013, he came back in 2017 and was, to put it politely, not the same Parkus a lot of people remembered, just flying off the handle more easily and seemingly obsessed with homosexuality and why it was evil. He ended up getting DEAT'd, revived his antiquity puppet Mardla, used that for maybe six months before either rage-quitting or joining some monastery or cult, came back briefly in summer 2019 in character as some Muslim guy and that's all I know. Weird dude.

6 May 2012: Deletion and DoS of 1000 Cats, the cat-diddler already mentioned in this thread
May-June 2012: Karinzistan and his revolution, which ended with him getting DoS'd - and then coming back almost daily for months
Summer/fall 2012: big increase in the number of adbots
Oct-Nov 2012: Objectiveland and his ridiculousness, got DoS'd for a suicide by mod thread
Late December 2012: This idiot
2 January 2013: Moratorium on "malicious" content that led to a lot of Nazi-themed nations disappearing pretty much just like that, and others followed in suicide-by-mod
Spring 2013: "That boring shitty troll", a Nazi/White Pride sort of guy, suspected to be Karinzistan mentioned above
18 July 2013: They finally realized that Aeazer, DoS since 2005, had two nations that had been active since at least 2008
22 July 2013: The aforementioned The Zeonic States pedo case
13 August 2013: Verbluffen finally got DoS'd, what a weird dude. He liked to keep coming back for a while too.
Late 2013/early 2014: "mods read TGs" scandal and several high-profile users leaving
27 December 2013: With Teeth revealing he had actually been DoS for several years, and getting all of his nations nuked because of it
15 February 2014: Closure of the Eternal Thread for two weeks. This and the above are why I consider Feb 2014 to be the end of my heyday/generation on NS
February 2014: Introduction of the R/D/Q thread labeling system in Moderation
15 May 2014: Novaya Stalina got DoS'd, soiling a lot of real-world nation names (I didn't know who was behind all of them until I did my own research many years later)
Spring/Summer 2014: Divair and Thafoo, and their respective demises
22-27 April 2015: Milograd's suicide-by-mod that got him DoS'd, and then just a few days later our first scripting scandal
2 April 2016: Predator scandal, two DoS's and tons of DEATs due to the use and sharing of a highly illegal script
1 May 2016: May Massacre, mentioned above
Late June 2016: All the ugliness surrounding Brexit, including a big wave of deletions
29 September 2016: The big Reddit boom causing a spike in site activity - and in nations with naughty names
I believe the RWDT, LWDT, and MAGAthread all began in 2016 too.
12 December 2018: The bloodbath of DEATs following the Strasbourg terrorist incident
Late 2019: Eternal Lotharia, or the guy who diddled his cousin
4 February 2020: Soldati Senza Confini came back after almost a year of being gone for the sole purpose of committing suicide by mod.
I'm not sure why the banana kid gets mentioned so much as a defining thing for so many people; maybe because for newer users he was the closest thing they've known to the serial spammers we used to get pretty regularly especially back in 2009-2010. I've read about all kinds of colourful characters from back then. BNPs Britain and his summer 2009 porn spam campaign that all resulted from getting his main nation deleted for posting past a ban. Landongrad, i.e. the "anti gingers" idiot. Diatraba, 2010's very own foreign language spammer. Hairless Kitten, nuff said.

Was the guy who posted the suicide note back in 2011 Hammurab by any chance? If so, he got DoS'd in June 2012 as well IIRC.
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You even allowed a DOS poster to return in order to help with it all. It was just amazing to see how everyone mobilized to help them. A brilliant spot on NSG history.

Getbrett/Getbrett2?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:11 am
by Washington Resistance Army
The New California Republic wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:There's also one that happened in 2020's Gen Sec Election thing (it was an April Fools thing), which was... I think that might have reinforced [v]'s stance on not allowing images from Discord. I was "blessed" with looking at those images before they got deleted and they have Discord links, so yeah!

There was also someone last year(?), a regular on the forums and fairly well-known, that I assume was declared DOS after previously unseen RMB posts from several years ago emerged that revealed that the person admitted doing something really bad several years ago. Their name escapes me, but it's just as well, as I'd rather not be pressed on the specifics.


Deian. He was also running for city council in Portland and directly doxxed himself so that's a wonderful combo given what the RMB messages were.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:11 am
by The Blaatschapen
The New California Republic wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:There's also one that happened in 2020's Gen Sec Election thing (it was an April Fools thing), which was... I think that might have reinforced [v]'s stance on not allowing images from Discord. I was "blessed" with looking at those images before they got deleted and they have Discord links, so yeah!

There was also someone last year(?), a regular on the forums and fairly well-known, that I assume was declared DOS after previously unseen RMB posts from several years ago emerged that revealed that the person admitted doing something really bad several years ago. Their name escapes me, but it's just as well, as I'd rather not be pressed on the specifics.


Damn, I should lurk in Moderation more >_>